Up to 5000 American Christian terrorists threaten to blow up US buildings

Thorgrim · 08-15-2007, 12:42 PM

Apparently this thread is now about talking about the weather

hsmith · 08-15-2007, 12:48 PM

When did McVeigh claim to do what he did in the name of Jesus? He was pissed off about Waco

The Klan hasn't had teeth for decades, they are a bunch of poor hillbillies that cry about how blacks "keep them poor"

Thorgrim · 08-15-2007, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by hsmith

When did McVeigh claim to do what he did in the name of Jesus? He was pissed off about Waco

The Klan hasn't had teeth for decades, they are a bunch of poor hillbillies that cry about how blacks "keep them poor"

It's not like McVeigh had an extensive autobiography or even had the microphones for awhile...and Waco was about the government cracking down on a Christian group...afterwards McVeigh went to Christian services of right-wingers, while not the most active member, other members went on to terrorist activities that were founded on the church, because of McVeigh's relative silence, all we can say it that it was related to his Christian church of the somewhat radical "Christian Identity Movement"

Black September hasn't been active in decades, that doesn't mean groups related to its remnants or inspired by it are not a threat

I don't see how being inactive in mass bombings for a few decades makes you suddenly not a terrorist group, Hezbollah hasn't blown up an American for decades, why do we still label them as anti-American terrorists? They refuse to fight us in Iraq even though we're right next door, they have no desire to pick a fight with us...

Phantom · 08-15-2007, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

It's not like McVeigh had an extensive autobiography or even had the microphones for awhile...and Waco was about the government cracking down on a Christian group...afterwards McVeigh went to Christian services of right-wingers, while not the most active member, other members went on to terrorist activities that were founded on the church, because of McVeigh's relative silence, all we can say it that it was related to his Christian church of the somewhat radical "Christian Identity Movement"

I see, his silence gives you a license to come up with your wet dream of Christians being the root of the problem.

Excellent work.

hsmith · 08-15-2007, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

It's not like McVeigh had an extensive autobiography or even had the microphones for awhile...and Waco was about the government cracking down on a Christian group...afterwards McVeigh went to Christian services of right-wingers, while not the most active member, other members went on to terrorist activities that were founded on the church, because of McVeigh's relative silence, all we can say it that it was related to his Christian church of the somewhat radical "Christian Identity Movement"

Black September hasn't been active in decades, that doesn't mean groups related to its remnants or inspired by it are not a threat

I don't see how being inactive in mass bombings for a few decades makes you suddenly not a terrorist group, Hezbollah hasn't blown up an American for decades, why do we still label them as anti-American terrorists? They refuse to fight us in Iraq even though we're right next door, they have no desire to pick a fight with us...

ok, so they are terrorists. but they won't take credit for, at the time, the largest terrorist attack on US soil

oh, ok

hsmith · 08-15-2007, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by Phantom

I see, his silence gives you a license to come up with your wet dream of Christians being the root of the problem.

Excellent work.

He didn't say anything so that means he was part of the group.

This is as bad as the conspiracy theory that he was working for the gov't and they executed him fast so he couldn't spill the beans

Linzyhop · 08-15-2007, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by Phantom

I see, his silence gives you a license to come up with your wet dream of Christians being the root of the problem.

Excellent work.

i think he's trying to say any type of religious extreme is bad. and just because there are some american terrorists who claim they're christian the government ignores them more because they're american christian extremists and not ME muslim extremists.

Thorgrim · 08-15-2007, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by hsmith

ok, so they are terrorists. but they won't take credit for, at the time, the largest terrorist attack on US soil

oh, ok

Even AlQ doesn't take credit for every attack, especially after the FBI was on a massive manhunt after the attacks happened...why invite them to arrest everyone in the group when they can sit back and just watch their members do damage on their own

Thorgrim · 08-15-2007, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by hsmith

He didn't say anything so that means he was part of the group.

This is as bad as the conspiracy theory that he was working for the gov't and they executed him fast so he couldn't spill the beans

He went to their meetings and services...what did he need to sign a registration form? If we capture an al qaeda terrorist in Iraq do we ask him for his registration card?

JaJae · 08-15-2007, 01:15 PM

Where did the up to 5,000 figure come from

kinggovernor · 08-15-2007, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

The IKA has thousands of members, and the Klan itself has the most brutal terrorist record in America, easily outstripping Al Qaeda, throughout the 20th century the KKK lynched tens of thousands of african americans, jews and some whites, they had multiple bombings

tens of thousands????? Where are you getting your numbers?

hsmith · 08-15-2007, 01:52 PM

The real terrorists operating in the United States is MS13. Over 100,000 members, dwarfing the estimated 8,000 KKK members.

MS13 has a horrid history of violence, smuggling, and terrorizing Americans.

They are the terrorists on American soil.

Thorgrim · 08-15-2007, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Where did the up to 5,000 figure come from

It's on a site i saw for estimated membership of the IKA

JaJae · 08-15-2007, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

It's on a site i saw for estimated membership of the IKA

Does that logic work on threats by a Muslim Extremist?

Thorgrim · 08-15-2007, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Does that logic work on threats by a Muslim Extremist?

I generally take their estimates as more realistic than US military-CIA estimates

JaJae · 08-15-2007, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

I generally take their estimates as more realistic than US military-CIA estimates

Who is "their"?

Thorgrim · 08-15-2007, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Who is "their"?

When insurgent groups (labeled as muslim extremists) we recently allied with counted their membership, I believed them more than the US military numbers of "10,000" insurgents in ALL OF IRAQ

SoFlaJDM · 08-15-2007, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

When insurgent groups (labeled as muslim extremists) we recently allied with counted their membership, I believed them more than the US military numbers of "10,000" insurgents in ALL OF IRAQ

you believe what they say?

why don't you just join them already?

Thorgrim · 08-15-2007, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM

you believe what they say?

why don't you just join them already?

No dental insurance :/

JaJae · 08-15-2007, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

When insurgent groups (labeled as muslim extremists) we recently allied with counted their membership, I believed them more than the US military numbers of "10,000" insurgents in ALL OF IRAQ

This doesn't even come close to answering my original question. If a Muslim extremist threatens to attack us in some way can I just add them all up base