Worst attack of the Occupation, 250+ Iraqis killed in one town - Page 3

Thorgrim · 08-15-2007, 06:30 PM

So basically you don't have an opinion on what should be done in Iraq, but have plenty of criticism for everyone elses...

The Biden plan calls for a phased withdrawal...now not later, so you'd support a vote that would include a phased withdrawal, starting in September? Bush or his little minions like Gen. P wouldn't be too happy with you

JaJae · 08-15-2007, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

So basically you don't have an opinion on what should be done in Iraq, but have plenty of criticism for everyone elses...

I have an opinion. I said Biden's plan is a good one. Read my posts, I'm getting tired of responding to things that have been made up today.

The Biden plan calls for a phased withdrawal...now not later, so you'd support a vote that would include a phased withdrawal, starting in September?

That's what I said... I thought it was pretty clear and in plain English. What was so confusing that it needs to be asked again?

Bush or his little minions like Gen. P wouldn't be too happy with you

Who cares? What the hell does this mean?

Thorgrim · 08-15-2007, 06:42 PM

We're talking about Iraq attacks here, this isn't offtopic...how can you sit with all the pro-surge people talking how we need another 6-12 months of this, yet say you're for starting to withdraw IMMEDIATELY...

We can't have 160,000+ troops in Iraq for 6+ months without reduction and start taking them out...

SoFlaJDM · 08-15-2007, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Funny how easy it is sometimes, isn't it?

thanks for your contribution... right jajae?

JaJae · 08-15-2007, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

We're talking about Iraq attacks here, this isn't offtopic...

How is discussing me personally not off topic?

how can you sit with all the pro-surge people talking how we need another 6-12 months of this, yet say you're for starting to withdraw IMMEDIATELY...

How can I "sit" with who? Huh?

We can't have 160,000+ troops in Iraq for 6+ months without reduction and start taking them out...

ok.

Thorgrim · 08-15-2007, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

How is discussing me personally not off topic?

How can I "sit" with who? Huh?

ok.

Well, if I didn't give my opinion to start this thread, you'd lock it and tell me "I had to include an opinion" yet you can throw up a ton of Iraq surge threads and giving your opinion is offtopic?

Do the rules need to be changed or something?

You still haven't made your choice, do we keep the Bush plan of160,000 troops for 6-12 months, no taking a single one out (as Petraeus want us to do) or do we go with the Biden Plan that starts withdrawing next month, in a phased redeployment

Which one? Or tell us you were mistaken and don't like the Biden plan either

JaJae · 08-15-2007, 07:35 PM

Which one? Or tell us you were mistaken and don't like the Biden plan either

What is this?

I had a response typed up and then I got to this....

Thorgrim · 08-15-2007, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

What is this?

I had a response typed up and then I got to this....

its ok, you don't like Biden's plan either...as I expected...if you ever do find a plan that you like, be sure to tell us, troops have been dying for 4 years waiting for one

Joe_Cool · 08-15-2007, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

BAGHDAD - Emergency workers and grieving relatives uncovered dozens of bodies in the wreckage of clay houses in northwest Iraq on Wednesday, sending the death toll from suicide truck bombings of a small Kurdish sect to at least 250 — the war's deadliest attack on a single area.

At least 250 dead after Iraq blasts - Yahoo! News

I thought large attacks were shrinking? Anyway, horrible news...at the peak of our surge, we're having the worst attack in our occupation's history

You mean some arabs attacked some other arabs, and it's our fault even though we weren't involved? That's pretty amazing. Bush must have switched his hurricane to its "Arab Mind Control" setting.

What this means to me is that we still have more people to kill.

JaJae · 08-15-2007, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

its ok, you don't like Biden's plan either...as I expected...if you ever do find a plan that you like, be sure to tell us, troops have been dying for 4 years waiting for one

Worst attack of the Occupation, 250+ Iraqis killed in one town
Worst attack of the Occupation, 250+ Iraqis killed in one town

This is so pathetic it's almost humorous.

Thorgrim · 08-15-2007, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Worst attack of the Occupation, 250+ Iraqis killed in one town
Worst attack of the Occupation, 250+ Iraqis killed in one town

This is so pathetic it's almost humorous.

"done properly" ah...you oppose the famous "i want to pullout of baghdad improperly" plan, very noble of you

Thorgrim · 08-15-2007, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by Joe_Cool

You mean some arabs attacked some other arabs, and it's our fault even though we weren't involved? That's pretty amazing. Bush must have switched his hurricane to its "Arab Mind Control" setting.

What this means to me is that we still have more people to kill.

We have an occupation force in Iraq, what happens there is our responsibility

Paul Bremer, a US official, formed Iraq, and the Iraqis that eventually started a government never cast one vote that we should stay or were needed, or in what capacity...we're still transitioning them...and Bush has said the Iraqi government word is not bond...if they all told us to leave in 6 months, Bush would not obey...because we are OCCUPYING the country...again meaning WE'RE RESPONSIBLE

JaJae · 08-15-2007, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

"done properly" ah...you oppose the famous "i want to pullout of baghdad improperly" plan, very noble of you

I clearly defined what it meant to do it properly to me... I wonder if my posts are even being read.

Scrum · 08-15-2007, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by Joe_Cool

You mean some arabs attacked some other arabs, and it's our fault even though we weren't involved? That's pretty amazing. Bush must have switched his hurricane to its "Arab Mind Control" setting.

What this means to me is that we still have more people to kill.

Are you fucking kidding me?

We eliminated the thing that kept these sects in check. We are directly responsible for the sectarian violence and it wasn't planned for by the leadership. Not many people on either side of the aisle dispute this.

Donkey® · 08-15-2007, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

I never claimed he was unamerican or concerned about our troops. That's not for me to decide. What I said was it is my belief that this thread and the media sensationalism of this event is why the event was conducted. It was done as a planned propaganda tool by al Qaeda to influence the conservative vs liberal battle in the US just before the progress report is to be released. This thread symbolizes why these people were murdered.

The media, blogs, forums, and gossip in America will be discussing the "largest" and "worst" attack in Iraq just a couple weeks before the progress report, which is intended to skew the overall picture in Iraq and force us to leave. The fact that they got to kill some Kurds was just icing on the cake for them.

Pulling the party line. Proof this was Al Qaeda?

Donkey® · 08-15-2007, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by Joe_Cool

You mean some arabs attacked some other arabs, and it's our fault even though we weren't involved? That's pretty amazing. Bush must have switched his hurricane to its "Arab Mind Control" setting.

What this means to me is that we still have more people to kill.

Turn the whole middle east into glass huh?

Scrum · 08-15-2007, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

I never claimed he was unamerican or concerned about our troops. That's not for me to decide. What I said was it is my belief that this thread and the media sensationalism of this event is why the event was conducted. It was done as a planned propaganda tool by al Qaeda to influence the conservative vs liberal battle in the US just before the progress report is to be released. This thread symbolizes why these people were murdered.

The media, blogs, forums, and gossip in America will be discussing the "largest" and "worst" attack in Iraq just a couple weeks before the progress report, which is intended to skew the overall picture in Iraq and force us to leave. The fact that they got to kill some Kurds was just icing on the cake for them.

Why on Earth would AQ want us out of Iraq? They won't be welcome there anymore after we leave and their recruiting pool will diminish.

JaJae · 08-15-2007, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by Scrum

Why on Earth would AQ want us out of Iraq? They won't be welcome there anymore after we leave and their recruiting pool will diminish.

They're not welcome in the Kurdish villages now... Why wouldn't leave? Once we're gone it will be a power struggle to get into positions of power within Iraq much like what we see in the Sudan.

David Octavius · 08-15-2007, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

They're not welcome in the Kurdish villages now... Why wouldn't leave? Once we're gone it will be a power struggle to get into positions of power within Iraq much like what we see in the Sudan.

They were never welcomed in the Kurdish areas, that's a red herring...AQ is there because we are there and bottom line we are their best recruiting tool. It sucks but unfortunately that is how it is...16 securities agencies said this