So I got perma'd from OT.

Grouch · 08-17-2007, 03:13 AM

All because I said that the forum has gone down hill over the last 6 months and listed some reasons why.

word to the wise don't tell Glen or Fazle that OT isn't the greatest most perfect e-creation ever.

motivez · 08-17-2007, 06:06 AM

That's how they roll, fast and out of control

avsp · 08-17-2007, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by Grouch

All because I said that the forum has gone down hill over the last 6 months and listed some reasons why.

word to the wise don't tell Glen or Fazle that OT isn't the greatest most perfect e-creation ever.

i've never really understood OT

what were the reasons you listed?

Scrum · 08-17-2007, 12:15 PM

Fuck OT.

Simius · 08-17-2007, 02:02 PM

I was making a new "free grouch" av... When I went to save it I realized I already had over a half dozen of them.

How long do you think those fuck twits will ban you this time?

Grouch · 08-17-2007, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by Simius

I was making a new "free grouch" av... When I went to save it I realized I already had over a half dozen of them.

How long do you think those fuck twits will ban you this time?

Forever. Both Glen and Faz are all for it.

Here the emails we've exchanged so far.

My original email.

Sorry for the repeat email but my reply email was incorrect.

So glen perma banned me for making a comment as the downward trend the board as
taken. I did not break any posted rule. Can I get an explanation for this? It's
rather unreasonable.

Faz's reply

I think he was trying to help you by logging you out of this shithole of a site
so you can find something that better suits your needs. Good luck.

Fazle
832-444-0066
Sent via Blackberry Wireless

Glen's reply.

Exactly what Faz said. You continue to bash the site and it's obviously a shit hole in your mind as you've said so on multiple occasions. Seems like you had trouble finding the door, I was merely helping. Good luck where ever you decide to spend your time.

My reply to Glen

Glen go ahead and find me a single post where I said the site IS shit, or
that I don't like it. I care about the site and enjoy the site. That being I
see when changes are not making the site better and I've said what they are.

Glen's reply with what I exactly said that got me banned.

Here's some fine examples of what you bring to the board

"really, how can anyone not admit that OT has taking a major shit ..."
" Let's add that OTX has been a disaster."
"Quality of posters and moderation have been shit."
"Most Main forum and super mods run with their little clicks and don't moderate with any fairness."
" You can't make the case that the forum is improving."

Clearly you're saying that the site is a steaming pile of shit and that it's only getting worse. You're not being vague or beating around the bush.

GOOD LUCK WHERE EVER YOU DECIDE TO SPEND YOUR TIME.

We all here at OT wish you the best. I hope you find a forum a lot more appealing to you where you can spend your online time. Best of luck to you sir

Grouch · 08-17-2007, 02:08 PM

good think OT isn't totalitarian or anything. Disagree with the dictator and you're gone forever.

Simius · 08-17-2007, 02:09 PM

Fuck

Grouch · 08-17-2007, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by Simius

Fuck

In my reply I restated that I never said the site is shit, just that it's getting worse and that I care[d] about it. I guess you can't enjoy an imperfect thing, but if you don enjoy it you can never criticize it.

I actually feel kinda lame arguing against my ban. But i did enjoy the subforums a lot.

DosEquis · 08-17-2007, 02:22 PM

wow they get bitchy. heh.

Grouch · 08-17-2007, 02:30 PM

Got another reply.

I said reply to his last.

So basically all you have are 2 posts which, importantly, take place in the proper forum for FEEDBACK. That's a very convincing case you've created Glen.

Additionally Glen, none of what you quoted says I don't like the forum, what is says is I don't like where it has been going. That's a figment of your of creation to add some unfound justification for my ban.

Glen replied.

Good luck with where ever you decide to spend your time. Good day.

Oh and the word is unfounded, just an fyi for the next forum you decide to
use it on.

He's moved to grammer mistakes. God how pathetic is this man.

Then my final jab back and I wont bore LL with this anymore.

Aw, I see you've moved to grammar mistakes. The choice move for cowards.

Well at least you're proving to OT, even if it’s little by little, that you're little more than a coward and an ethug.

It's so sad you fear criticism so much. Enjoy your life. I'm sure OT makes it very fulfilling. Enjoy your time at the top, because when it comes to an end no one’s going to miss you.

Thorgrim · 08-17-2007, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Grouch

Got another reply.

I said reply to his last.

Glen replied.

He's moved to grammer mistakes. God how pathetic is this man.

Then my final jab back and I wont bore LL with this anymore.

Aw, I see you've moved to grammar mistakes. The choice move for cowards.

Well at least you're proving to OT, even if it’s little by little, that you're little more than a coward and an ethug.

It's so sad you fear criticism so much. Enjoy your life. I'm sure OT makes it very fulfilling. Enjoy your time at the top, because when it comes to an end no one’s going to miss you.

reply that you can't end a sentence with a preposition

RMNIXON · 08-17-2007, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

That's how they roll, fast and out of control

And you would know about......

Bans from OT!

Only most people would have the guts to do it themselves and not have some ass clown from the main board do it for them.

Grouch · 08-17-2007, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by RMNIXON

Only most people would have the guts to do it themselves and not have some ass clown from the main board do it for them.

RMNIXON · 08-17-2007, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by Grouch

All because I said that the forum has gone down hill over the last 6 months and listed some reasons why.

Like this board has not done the same over the last two months or so. It might as well be a circle jerk blog with a very prominent "reach around" leader.

thomez · 08-17-2007, 05:16 PM

I'm also perma'd for OT, so don't feel too bad.

Joe_Cool · 08-17-2007, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by Grouch

good think OT isn't totalitarian or anything. Disagree with the dictator and you're gone forever.

Um, all private property works like that. I can kick you out of my house if I don't like the color of your eyes, or even for no reason whatsoever besides "I don't want you here".

OT is Fazle's house.

What ever gave you the impression that it was anything BUT totalitarian?

motivez · 08-17-2007, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by RMNIXON

Like this board has not done the same over the last two months or so. It might as well be a circle jerk blog with a very prominent "reach around" leader.

http://www.libertylounge.net/forums/login.php?do=logout

As Glen said, good luck wherever you decide to spend your time.

Diesel66 · 08-17-2007, 09:27 PM

yeah fazle is very cool in person, so it is just you.

Grouch · 08-17-2007, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by Joe_Cool

Um, all private property works like that. I can kick you out of my house if I don't like the color of your eyes, or even for no reason whatsoever besides "I don't want you here".

OT is Fazle's house.

What ever gave you the impression that it was anything BUT totalitarian?

I guess I just expected more from Fazle.

Glen's been a pathetic joke of a mod for the last 5 years. I thought Fazle would have had more class and integrity. But I was wrong in my assumption. Both of them are classless, pitiful little people whose sole source of self-worth and importance comes from the power they wield over others on an internet forum.