Ron Paul wins Alabama and New Hampshire Straw Polls

lew · 08-19-2007, 03:25 PM

New Hampshire:

Out of 286 votes cast:

Ron - 208 (73%)
Romney - 26
Huckabee - 20
Tancredo - 8
McCain - 7
Cox - 5
Hunter - 5
Fred Thompson - 3
Giuliani - 3
Brownback - 1

Alabama:

Tom Tancredo - 0 (0%)
Sam Brownback - 2 (.75%)
John McCain - 2 (.75%)
Mike Huckabee - 6 (2%)
Rudy Giuliani - 7 (3%)
Fred Dalton Thompson - 9 (3%)
Duncan Hunter - 10 (4%)
Mitt Romney - 14 (5%)
Ron Paul - 216 (81%)

SoFlaJDM · 08-19-2007, 03:37 PM

286 votes cast...

that would negate ANY poll anyone on the left would list

JaJae · 08-19-2007, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM

286 votes cast...

that would negate ANY poll anyone on the left would list

What it shows is that people interested in politics, are coming in support of Paul in these states. That's a good thing, nor is stating the results intended to negate and straw man argument.

motivez · 08-19-2007, 06:34 PM

Who organized these straw polls?

thomez · 08-19-2007, 07:12 PM

The Strafford County Republican Party in New Hampshire and the West Alabama Republican Assembly, respectively.

Thorgrim · 08-19-2007, 07:39 PM

One county and "west alabama"?

I think one should differentiate widely publicized straw polls like Ames...where anyone in Iowa with 35 bucks can go...and some noname county poll that I am sure got almost zero advertising

Ardentfrost · 08-19-2007, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

One county and "west alabama"?

I think one should differentiate widely publicized straw polls like Ames...where anyone in Iowa with 35 bucks can go...and some noname county poll that I am sure got almost zero advertising

Not just "anyone in Iowa with 35 bucks," but "anyone in Iowa with 35 bucks and the willingness to drive the distance."

All straw polls are retarded. Let's not nit-pick on one for not having as many votes as the other or not covering as much area when there's just as much wrong with any of them.

But hey, they tell people who they should vote for!

Donkey® · 08-20-2007, 01:02 AM

I think i'll wait for the primaries before I proclaim Ron Paul God of the Universe.

Thorgrim · 08-20-2007, 02:05 AM

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

Not just "anyone in Iowa with 35 bucks," but "anyone in Iowa with 35 bucks and the willingness to drive the distance."

All straw polls are retarded. Let's not nit-pick on one for not having as many votes as the other or not covering as much area when there's just as much wrong with any of them.

But hey, they tell people who they should vote for!

So, come caucus and primary time, all the libertarians will show up?

I'm confused, I come here, people are celebrating straw polls, now they are saying straw polls don't mean anything...ok

So what's going to happen this January?

Ardentfrost · 08-20-2007, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

So, come caucus and primary time, all the libertarians will show up?

I'm confused, I come here, people are celebrating straw polls, now they are saying straw polls don't mean anything...ok

So what's going to happen this January?

That's why during REAL votes there is a local place setup so people don't have to go out of their way so much to vote.

I'm not saying RP will win, but I'm not saying he won't (like some people are). The only thing straw polls do is make undecided voters dumber (and they're already pretty dumb) because then they'll base part (or all) of their decision on who they think has a chance instead of researching positions and voting for who they actually agree with.

Thorgrim · 08-20-2007, 10:59 AM

I'm just waiting for some of these posts on 300-person samplings to turn into announcements on how large the people-on-the-ground size of RP's campaign has gotten

lew · 08-20-2007, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

I'm just waiting for some of these posts on 300-person samplings to turn into announcements on how large the people-on-the-ground size of RP's campaign has gotten

But yet people assume that Giuliani will win, yet he does poor at every single straw poll.

Thorgrim · 08-20-2007, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by lew

But yet people assume that Giuliani will win, yet he does poor at every single straw poll.

Guiliani has a huge campaign staff and is set to launch a massive GOTV effort that will dwarf everyone except Romney in NH

Why doesn't Ron Paul have the biggest number of feet on the ground in libertarian-leaning NH? Most of these positions are non-paying

RMNIXON · 08-22-2007, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

That's why during REAL votes there is a local place setup so people don't have to go out of their way so much to vote.

I'm not saying RP will win, but I'm not saying he won't (like some people are). The only thing straw polls do is make undecided voters dumber (and they're already pretty dumb) because then they'll base part (or all) of their decision on who they think has a chance instead of researching positions and voting for who they actually agree with.

Well said.

These staw polls are great for the media and bring attention to the little States when the vast majority of voters have obviously not made up their minds. Many don't really care about 2008 politics at the moment. Even the larger polls may reflect more about who people like than who they will actually vote for in their primary when the time comes. Watch out for those people!

RMNIXON · 08-22-2007, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

I think i'll wait for the primaries before I proclaim Ron Paul God of the Universe.

Dumpy Dooby · 08-24-2007, 01:01 AM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Guiliani has a huge campaign staff and is set to launch a massive GOTV effort that will dwarf everyone except Romney in NH

Why doesn't Ron Paul have the biggest number of feet on the ground in libertarian-leaning NH? Most of these positions are non-paying

... and all libertarians are poor, so they won't take any non-paying jobs AMIRITE????

kinggovernor · 08-25-2007, 08:49 AM

its not much of a poll when less than 300 people voted