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Old 09-11-2007, 02:14 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by Stylerod View Post
He is dead. Watch the video. Every time he mentions current events the picture freezes. Coincidence? Yeah, right. It starts at 1:58

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Analysts have said it is his voice. Stop trying to make excuses for the U.S. basically giving up on finding him.
 
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:16 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by garbagemanlb View Post
Analysts have said it is his voice. Stop trying to make excuses for the U.S. basically giving up on finding him.
I don't care what "analysts" say. Someone has got to explain why the video stops when he talks about current events. The video only moves when he is talking generic things that could be any time.
 
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Old 09-11-2007, 06:54 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
Are you trying to say someone who is a terrorist can't be rational, or just Osama?


I don't think what Osama said was rational or factual. However, people who say the same thing I would not call a terrorist. Plenty of other names, but not a terrorist.


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Old 09-15-2007, 01:33 AM   #24
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Originally Posted by garbagemanlb View Post
Analysts have said it is his voice. Stop trying to make excuses for the U.S. basically giving up on finding him.
"Analysts" are also saying it's a fake.

Researcher: Bin Laden's beard is real, video is not | Tech news blog - CNET News.com
Krawetz says the inner frame of bin Laden was resaved at least twice, and not at the same time. The images show fine horizontal stripes on bin Laden and a background indicating these came from interlaced video sources. In contrast, the text elements, such as the As-Sahab logo, appear to be from non-interlaced sources.

The September 7 video shows bin Laden dressed in a white hat, white shirt and yellow sweater. Krawetz notes "this is the same clothing he wore in the 2004-10-29 video. In 2004 he had it unzipped, but in 2007 he zipped up the bottom half. Besides the clothing, it appears to be the same background, same lighting, and same desk. Even the camera angle is almost identical." Krawetz also notes that "if you overlay the 2007 video with the 2004 video, his face has not changed in three years--only his beard is darker and the contrast on the picture has been adjusted."

More important though are the edits. At roughly a minute and a half into the video there is a splice; bin Laden shifts from looking at the camera to looking down in less than 1/25th of a second. At 13:13 there is a second, less obvious splice. In all, Krawetz says there are at least six splices in the video. Of these, there are only two live bin Laden segments, the rest of the video composed of still images. The first live section opens the video and ends at 1:56. The second section begins at 12:29 and continues until 14:01. The two live sections appear to be from different recordings "because the desk is closer to the camera in the second section."

Then there are the audio edits. Krawetz says "the new audio has no accompanying 'live' video and consists of multiple audio recordings." References to current events are made only during the still frame sections and after splices within the audio track. "And there are so many splices that I cannot help but wonder if someone spliced words and phrases together. I also cannot rule out a vocal imitator during the frozen-frame audio. The only way to prove that the audio is really bin Laden is to see him talking in the video," Krawetz says.
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Old 09-15-2007, 01:59 AM   #25
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Originally Posted by Dumpy Dooby View Post
"Analysts" are also saying it's a fake.
This video more and more makes me think he is dead and I never really thought so before. If he were alive, why go through all this trouble to splice, still caption and fake all this stuff? This video really helps affirm the people who thought he was dead in my opinion, not the other way around.
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