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Old 08-25-2006, 04:06 PM   #21
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Reagan sold arms to terrorists, we should have took him out back and shot him for treason I guess
 
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Old 08-25-2006, 04:08 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
I think betraying your state is a pretty good definition to live by. Accepting money for a trip that you know comes from an organization that wants the destruction of America and to kill Americans isn't exactly something to not shun.
The Tamil Tigers have attacked Americans or called for attacks on America?
 
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Old 08-25-2006, 04:08 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Reagan sold arms to terrorists, we should have took him out back and shot him for treason I guess
Yup because the situations the same
 
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Old 08-25-2006, 04:08 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Reagan sold arms to terrorists, we should have took him out back and shot him for treason I guess
Those were the good terrorists, silly.
 
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
I think betraying your state is a pretty good definition to live by. Accepting money for a trip that you know comes from an organization that wants the destruction of America and to kill Americans isn't exactly something to not shun.
I'm going to need a link here, even Hezbollah doesn't want to kill Americans

and BTW, i think the definition the constitution gives is pretty good, but why should we respect the constitution right
 
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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95 View Post
Yup because the situations the same
You are right, Reagan violated the US law, the rep didn't, Reagan was more of a traitor

Also, giving aid to Iran, who called America the Great Satan, nice job gipper
 
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Old 08-25-2006, 04:10 PM   #27
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Again, he didn't accept a trip from them.
He took a trip from someone with ties to them.

Illinois congressman Danny Davis and an aide took a trip to Sri Lanka last year that was paid for by the Tamil Tigers
 
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Old 08-25-2006, 04:11 PM   #28
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The five-term Democratic congressman said he was unaware that the Tigers paid for the trip and on his required congressional disclosure form he reported that the trip was paid for by a Hickory Hills, Ill.-based Tamil cultural organization
 
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
I'm going to need a link here, even Hezbollah doesn't want to kill Americans

and BTW, i think the definition the constitution gives is pretty good, but why should we respect the constitution right
He never mentioned the constitution. He said it was treason by his opinion, not the constitutional definition.

In fact if you look up the definition of treason in the dictionary you find:
trea‧son  /ˈtrizən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[tree-zuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
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1. the offense of acting to overthrow one's government or to harm or kill its sovereign.
2. a violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or to one's state.
3. the betrayal of a trust or confidence; breach of faith; treachery.


And it's news to me that Hezbollah doesn't hate us. I wonder why we're not helping with the peacekeeping over there then since they wouldn't want to kill us. I guess the UN and our government have been misinformed.
 
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Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent View Post
oh, ok so he lied in the report then.
 
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
He never mentioned the constitution. He said it was treason by his opinion, not the constitutional definition.

In fact if you look up the definition of treason in the dictionary you find:
trea‧son  /ˈtrizən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[tree-zuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
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1. the offense of acting to overthrow one's government or to harm or kill its sovereign.
2. a violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or to one's state.
3. the betrayal of a trust or confidence; breach of faith; treachery.


And it's news to me that Hezbollah doesn't hate us. I wonder why we're not helping with the peacekeeping over there then since they wouldn't want to kill us. I guess the UN and our government have been misinformed.
So where you going to link the info about the Tamil Tigers calling for the destruction of America?
 
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
oh, ok so he lied in the report then.
Davis said he believed that the trip, from March 30 to April 5, 2005, was paid for by the Tamil federation, which in accordance with congressional ethics rules sent him a written statement of the travel expenses, more than $7,000 each for Davis and his aide, Daniel Cantrell. Davis said he knew that the group was "associated" with the Tamil Tigers but did not realize that the trip's costs were covered with funds controlled by the rebel group.
Lets keep cherry picking quotes.
 
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And I guess America is a terrorist state since we follow laws written out by terrorists.
 
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Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent View Post
And I guess America is a terrorist state since we follow laws written out by terrorists.
 
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Old 08-25-2006, 04:19 PM   #35
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Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent View Post
So where you going to link the info about the Tamil Tigers calling for the destruction of America?
Eh that was a mistake. I didn't read it wasn't an anti-US terrorists until now.

What ya get for not fully reading the thread.
 
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Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent View Post
Lets keep cherry picking quotes.
how easily the rest of the country finds out about where someone's money comes from, but the people accepting the money is completely 'unaware'
 
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
I'll let you in on a litte secret:

Our rebellion used many terrorist tactics.
 
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Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent View Post
I'll let you in on a litte secret:

Our rebellion used many terrorist tactics.
boating to new land?
 
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Old 08-25-2006, 04:27 PM   #39
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
He never mentioned the constitution. He said it was treason by his opinion, not the constitutional definition.

In fact if you look up the definition of treason in the dictionary you find:
trea‧son  /ˈtrizən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[tree-zuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
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1. the offense of acting to overthrow one's government or to harm or kill its sovereign.
2. a violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or to one's state.
3. the betrayal of a trust or confidence; breach of faith; treachery.




And it's news to me that Hezbollah doesn't hate us. I wonder why we're not helping with the peacekeeping over there then since they wouldn't want to kill us. I guess the UN and our government have been misinformed.
Dictionary > Constitution...cool

anyway, if Hezbollah wanted to kill us, it could, it has cells in America that could kill hundreds maybe thousands with a mere word, and it has armies of loyalists who would go into Iraq with the same technology that destroyed dozens of Israeli tanks

However, they specifically have not attacked us in either places, because they are an anti-Israeli organization...it'd be the same as fearing the IRA would blow us up a few decades ago when they were active in Europe...watch out an Irishman!
 
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Old 08-25-2006, 04:35 PM   #40
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Dictionary > Constitution...cool
Nowhere has he tried to make a constitutional or legal debate. He said in his book, it's treason. And by the popular definition, many people would agree that his statement is not far fetched. I doubt you would be saying the same if he were Republican.
 
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