Originally Posted by Stylerod Most University's would accept any world leader that hates Bush. It wouldn't matter if it was Castro, Che, Stalin, Ahmadinejad, Hitler or Pol Pot. Any enemy if Bush, is a friend of the Liberals. This from the guy with a Churchill av, the guy that sat ...
09-22-2007, 09:51 PM
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| Anti-War, Anti-State, Pro-Free Market  Capitalist 
| Originally Posted by Stylerod 
This from the guy with a Churchill av, the guy that sat and talked with the arch terrorist Stalin numerous times.  | ||||
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09-22-2007, 09:53 PM
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| Anti-War, Anti-State, Pro-Free Market Capitalist
| Originally Posted by Stylerod Too bad that's not the entire clip. What the dean actually said was that Hitler would be allowed to speak, prior to the invasion of Poland. He wasn't talking about middle of WWII, Holocaust Hitler. | ||||
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09-22-2007, 09:55 PM
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| Never, never, never give up  Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by lew He hated him and talked to the US about going to war with him after Germany was defeated. Germany was an enemy to both and they both needed to defeat them. I don't think Churchill ever welcomed Stalin into the halls of their University's during his time as PM.
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09-22-2007, 09:57 PM
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| Never, never, never give up Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by lew Oh, he gave dates and pretended no to know what Hitler really was?
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09-22-2007, 10:02 PM
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| Anti-War, Anti-State, Pro-Free Market Capitalist
| Originally Posted by Stylerod
I don't recall the dean saying he was friends with Ahmendijad , but please, give me the link showing that, since you must have information that I don't. Amazing how Churchill speaking with Stalin means nothing but a dean at Columbia speaking with Ahmendijad means friendship.  | ||||
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09-22-2007, 10:06 PM
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| Never, never, never give up Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by lew Churchill didn't have much of a choice. His country was facing annihilation by a stronger, better trained, better equipped country. I don't think Columbia U is in quite that predicament. Do you?
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09-22-2007, 11:21 PM
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| Anti-War, Anti-State, Pro-Free Market Capitalist
| Originally Posted by Stylerod
Originally Posted by me
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09-22-2007, 11:33 PM
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| Never, never, never give up Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by lew Hmm. Link where I said the Dean was the friend of anyone?
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09-23-2007, 12:10 AM
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| I wonder Independent San Antonio, Texas
| When all is said and done we may need this guy to help us along with Turkey, and Syria to make a divided Iraq a viable place because that is going to be the only solution to the hell that is Iraq now. Hopefully it will be a republic and not a place divided by civil war in to three countries. | ||||
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09-23-2007, 12:25 AM
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| Given the US constitution I dont really have a problem with a University having this guy speak. We're not at war with Iran nor has he directly attacked the US. I DO think the University is using piss poor judgement here given the circumstances surrounding Iran. But the whitehouse/secret service also made a poor decision not allowing him to visit ground zero. | ||||
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09-23-2007, 01:11 AM
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| Yeah, that guy.  Progressive Oregon
| Originally Posted by Stylerod What the fuck is wrong with what he said? He said that the forum would be one where questions were posed and the person would be challenged on issues. It isn't the same as giving him an hour to give a stand alone speech without refutation or challenge. Christ, it is really pathetic that some people have such issues with DEBATE. So much for the 1st amendment. | ||||
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09-23-2007, 01:15 AM
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| Yeah, that guy. Progressive Oregon
| Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95 What circumstances? The fact that Iran is doing the exact same thing we did in Afghanistan two decades ago? This somehow makes them a terrorist-supporting nation unworthy of dialogue?
Again, I'm not saying their involvement in Iraq is good, but one has to put it into perspective, and it definately should not disqualify them from engaging in debate...especially when there is a potential that this will be the leader of the next nation we go to war with. | ||||
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09-23-2007, 02:42 AM
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| Anti-War, Anti-State, Pro-Free Market Capitalist
| Originally Posted by Stylerod
Originally Posted by you
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09-23-2007, 09:47 AM
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| My opinion is that the U.S. should not have granted him a visa to enter the country to begin with. But, because we did, he is protected by our constitution for the duration of his stay and he has the same rights to free speech on our soil as anyone else who is legally in our country. | ||||
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09-23-2007, 10:09 AM
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| Noob Republican Central Iowa
| Columbia University has the right to have anyone speak that they want. I don't necessarily approve of their decision, but it is a free country. If you don't agree with Columbia's choice contact them and voice your displeasure. | ||||
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09-23-2007, 11:28 AM
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| Originally Posted by garbagemanlb Yeah I agree with, not sure what your point is here? I never said htey SHOULDN"T Be allowed to ahve him speak, I just said itw as poor judgement on the part of the U.
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09-23-2007, 12:06 PM
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| Pinko Commie Bastard  Communist Moscow
| There is nothing wrong with Columbia's decision, their forum is about speaking with world leaders and he is among the most high-profile leaders in the world right now. Asking him questions and giving him an opportunity to answer is in no way being gullible or supportive of his rhetoric - it is engaging a world leader and questioning his words and actions. I see absolutely nothing wrong with that. We as a nation need the best understanding of world leaders and world events as we can possibly garner, this is a positive thing. | ||||
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09-23-2007, 12:35 PM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator  Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by Stylerod We get enough of that when the President addresses the country.
Originally Posted by Stylerod
 Considering who the right has elected into office the past two elections, perhaps you shouldn't be throwing stones living in that glass house and all. | ||||
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09-23-2007, 01:44 PM
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| Never, never, never give up Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by thomez That is ASSuming you are going to are going to get honest answers back. The dean was talking about letting Hitler talk. The man was the Mother of All Liars. What do you expect to get out of a discussion with someone that you know will not give truthful answers to anything meaningful?
You talk about "understanding world leaders". It's such bullshit. They are going to say exactly what they think you want to hear. You are satisfied with that? What, exactly, do you think you learn from that? I'll give an example. Someone will say "What do you mean when you say that Israel should not be allowed to exist?" And he will say "Well, Israel should not be allowed to exist with their current policies. They just need to treat the Palestinians better and not kill innocent people blah, blah, blah." and the kids there will eat that shit up. It's EXACTLY what they want to hear! It might not be truthful, but God Damn it's what they thought all along and YippyKayea it's what he just said! He's not such a bad guy after all! He hates Israel and Bush just like we do! We are soul mates!!!! | ||||
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09-23-2007, 01:59 PM
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| ipsa Scientia Potestas est  Pragmatist North Carolina
| Originally Posted by 7th Ninjai Since the UN is located here, we can't deny world leaders the opportunity to come for that purpose
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