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Old 08-27-2006, 11:26 AM   #21
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Even Fox News showed the Shia muslims fleeing southern lebanon as a direct result of the ethnic cleansing campaign

 
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Old 08-27-2006, 11:56 AM   #22
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"The Israelis warn the small town Shiites of the south to flee their own homes and go hundreds of miles away (and live on what? in what?). But then they intensely bombing them, making it impossible for them to flee. The Lebanese have awoken to find themselves cockroaches.

I repeat, this is nothing less than an ethnic cleansing of the Shiites of southern Lebanon, an assault on an entire civilian population's way of life. Aside from ecology, it is no different from what Saddam Hussein did to the Marsh Arabs of southern Iraq, and the Israelis are doing it for exactly the same sorts of reasons that Saddam did."

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Thousands of innocent Lebanese have been forced from their homes by the bombings, especially in the South, and have headed up to Beirut (which the Israelis are also indiscriminately bombing). Some 100,000 Lebanese have fled to Syria, though Israeli bombing of roads and bridges has not made it easy for them to get out. Although, because of widespread Western racism, very few over here care about these displaced persons, they face a desperate situation. Roads have been bombed out, and bridges are gone. Lebanese television reported on numerous villages bombed. Rescue teams attempting to take an injured woman to a better hospital with more supplies were blocked when they found the bridge destroyed.

If the reports coming out of Lebanon can be believed, the Israelis are only sometimes striking known Hizbullah safe houses or facilities or missile emplacements. A lot of their bombardment appears aimed at punishing civilian populations and forcing them north to Beirut. Such an approach would help explain the high number of civilian casualties.

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Old 08-27-2006, 12:52 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by Diesel66 View Post
So telling Americans they cant watch a tv show is not censorship in your world ?
I never said it wasn't censorship, but does the first amendment apply in this case? Its a broadcast originating overseas by a known terrorist group who is classified as an enemy of the US.

Basically I'm not sure how I feel about this, but my first inclination would be it's not originating here so if the US wants to monitor it they can? I'm looking for opinions on this to help me make up my mind. I never said it wasn't censorship.
 
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Old 08-27-2006, 01:09 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95 View Post
I never said it wasn't censorship, but does the first amendment apply in this case?
 
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Old 08-27-2006, 01:29 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95 View Post
I never said it wasn't censorship, but does the first amendment apply in this case? Its a broadcast originating overseas by a known terrorist group who is classified as an enemy of the US.

Basically I'm not sure how I feel about this, but my first inclination would be it's not originating here so if the US wants to monitor it they can? I'm looking for opinions on this to help me make up my mind. I never said it wasn't censorship.
So, in your mind the Government should be able to censor a book from being available to the American public as long as it's written by someone who isn't an American?

Because that can be easily justified after this.

I mean, someone writing a harsh book about Bush and his Administration could easily be labeled as "emboldening the terrorists" as has been done with so many people who've criticized his idiotic policies, and then blocked from being sold.

That's alright in your mind? Only things which aren't critical of our nation and our policies should be allowed to be read by our citizens, to keep us stupid and supportive?

I'm not saying this tv station is going to change anyones mind, or that it's not an extreme example, but the principle is still the same.
 
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Old 08-27-2006, 03:40 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95 View Post
Basically I'm not sure how I feel about this, but my first inclination would be it's not originating here so if the US wants to monitor it they can? I'm looking for opinions on this to help me make up my mind. I never said it wasn't censorship.
However, it is being relayed by an American. He can claim that he is rebroadcasting political speech which falls in line with his views on Lebanon vs. Israel or whatever. It's kind of like publically reading a speech that someone else wrote and collecting a speaking fee or selling books written by someone else.
 
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Old 08-28-2006, 02:25 AM   #27
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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95 View Post
I never said it wasn't censorship, but does the first amendment apply in this case? Its a broadcast originating overseas by a known terrorist group who is classified as an enemy of the US.
What does its location have to do with the fact it is censorship ? Federal govt telling Americans they cannot watch a video/tv channel is censorship and against the 1st Admendment period.
 
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