US State Department investigating Israel for War Crimes - Page 2

archangel003 · 08-27-2006, 09:39 PM

By the way, you quoted Geneva then didn't respond to mine:

"The presence of a protected person may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations."
Fourth Geneva Convention, Part III, Article 28.

ballz2wallz · 08-27-2006, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

i am not about to dig through history books to someone who has no interesting except for pissing off democrats

Thorgrim · 08-27-2006, 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by archangel003

By the way, you quoted Geneva then didn't respond to mine:

"The presence of a protected person may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations."
Fourth Geneva Convention, Part III, Article 28.

it one thing to hide behind a civilian with a machine gun and have both shot morally, its another to blow up a civilian truck full of innocent people because the pilot guessed their could have been enemies on it

Diesel66 · 08-28-2006, 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

it one thing to hide behind a civilian with a machine gun and have both shot morally, its another to blow up a civilian truck full of innocent people because the pilot guessed their could have been enemies on it

so now an accident is a warcrime ?

SoFlaJDM · 08-28-2006, 01:31 PM

israel can do no wrong

archangel003 · 08-29-2006, 05:49 AM

Arab countries do vastly more wrong and yet you attack Israel and side with the Arabs. Curious.

Donkey® · 08-29-2006, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by archangel003

Arab countries do vastly more wrong and yet you attack Israel and side with the Arabs. Curious.

Arabs WITHIN countries do a lot of wrong...ISRAEL as a country does a lot of wrong too.

slosucks · 08-29-2006, 10:57 AM

im so sick of hearing, "you cant criticize muslims for all this stuff!!!111 christians did it too!!!11!?!1"

its called reform, they christian religion as a whole has been through a reform that has allowed our society to progress forward as a liberal one rather than the Muslim extremists who are sending their nations backwards. so yes, christians did a lot of wrong things.........in the PAST.........thats changed now, and Muslims need to do the same. You guys are pretty much saying, christians did it, so its ok for muslims to get a shot at it too. its a ridiculous argument, and if you claim youre actually a liberal, why would be supporting radical islam, it is completely contradictory to your beliefs

archangel003 · 08-29-2006, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Arabs WITHIN countries do a lot of wrong...ISRAEL as a country does a lot of wrong too.

You don't think the Saudi religious police do a lot of wrong?

Ardentfrost · 08-29-2006, 04:48 PM

Some of you have some really weak-ass arguements. It doesn't matter what Hez did in Lebannon, a war crime is a war crime... You don't fix one war crime by commiting another. And it doesn't matter if another country in that region is "worse" than Isreal, if anyone is going to be held to a standard, then they all should.

This making excuses shit is getting old.

archangel003 · 08-29-2006, 05:50 PM

You misunderstand our arguments then:

Hezbollah committed war crimes in Lebanon, Israel did not.

Ardentfrost · 08-29-2006, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by archangel003

You misunderstand our arguments then:

Hezbollah committed war crimes in Lebanon, Israel did not.

Your second post in this thread said this:

"The presence of a protected person may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations."
Fourth Geneva Convention, Part III, Article 28.

It seems to me that you're trying to say "Hez committed war crimes too!" which has nothing to do with anything from the OP.

And if Isreal didn't, then fine, but if they did, I think they'll just scoff and say "whatever, you guys aren't our boss."

motivez · 09-01-2006, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by slosucks

im so sick of hearing, "you cant criticize muslims for all this stuff!!!111 christians did it too!!!11!?!1"

its called reform, they christian religion as a whole has been through a reform that has allowed our society to progress forward as a liberal one rather than the Muslim extremists who are sending their nations backwards. so yes, christians did a lot of wrong things.........in the PAST.........thats changed now, and Muslims need to do the same. You guys are pretty much saying, christians did it, so its ok for muslims to get a shot at it too. its a ridiculous argument, and if you claim youre actually a liberal, why would be supporting radical islam, it is completely contradictory to your beliefs

Sounds like you're taking part of what I said in another thread, but not following it to its conclusion.

I've said many times that Islam is going to have to go through the same type of "reformation", that Christianity and Catholicism did in the past. They're still behind the rest of the world developmentally in that respect, and I don't think anyone denies that.

Problem is, you can't force change like this at the barrel of a gun. It has to come from within. There has to be a desire for broad change to how things are being run.