Originally Posted by WickedLou9 really? I dunno, for a long time the pats just had a bunch of average guys. Belechik always said he didn't want the superstars, he just wanted a bunch of guys who really wanted to be there. They never had any big name recievers or anything. ...
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10-15-2007, 07:51 PM
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| Pinko Commie Bastard  Communist Moscow 
| Originally Posted by WickedLou9 he had guys that fit great into a system, and he had one of the best defenses and coaches in football 
trust me, he's had it a lot easier than Manning
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10-15-2007, 11:07 PM
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| America Fuck Yea Election Moderator  Republican In Name Only
| Originally Posted by thomez
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10-15-2007, 11:10 PM
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| Originally Posted by kinggovernor there is no way that you can say the Colts have had a better defense or coaching staff than the Patriots ... no chance
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10-16-2007, 06:29 PM
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| Originally Posted by Publius
 
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10-16-2007, 06:33 PM
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| Originally Posted by thomez bill polian is a football genius
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10-18-2007, 12:22 AM
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| Originally Posted by Linzyhop
So let me get this straight...a football organization you're rooting for cheats, gets caught, and all is forgiven three weeks later... Yet Barry Bonds, who has never been caught or convicted and punished as a cheater gets your complete disdain and will never be forgiven for his phantom crimes... Interesting way of doing things... | ||||
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10-18-2007, 06:53 AM
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| Originally Posted by Donkey® oh please.
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10-18-2007, 07:27 AM
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| America Fuck Yea Election Moderator Republican In Name Only
| Originally Posted by Donkey® troof
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10-18-2007, 09:06 AM
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| no es mi culpa  Independent Beantown
| Originally Posted by Donkey® um, yup.
cause every team out there is doing the same thing that the pats did with the recording of signals and Barry Bonds "didn't know they were performance enhancing drugs".... my ass. please. 
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10-18-2007, 09:12 AM
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| Those things are not even close to being the same. The patriots did something that most other teams already do in one form or another and it's something that doesn't make a difference. You could have a guy standing there memorizing the other teams signals and it's fine. You are allowed to tape the game and it's fine. The rule is that you can't have a camera on the sidelines.... how about the stands? other teams to go great lengths to prevent thier signals from being stolen and I am sure they change them up all the time. Teams try to steal each others signals all the time... in fact here is an article from 5 years ago talking about coaches hiring lip readers to try and steal the other sides signals CNNSI.com - SI Online - Sports Illustrated - Life of Reilly - SI's Rick Reilly: The Silent Treatment - Wednesday January 09, 2002 05:56 PM The games are already televised and photographed and video taped to minutia. Signals are already being caught on tape. It's part of the strategy of the game. If you think that is the same as Barry Bonds steriod use you are kidding yourself. | ||||
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10-18-2007, 09:53 AM
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| America Fuck Yea Election Moderator Republican In Name Only
| Originally Posted by WickedLou9 if it was no big deal then why the huge fine and loss of a draft pick?
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10-18-2007, 10:04 AM
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| Originally Posted by kinggovernor Politics
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10-18-2007, 10:02 PM
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| Originally Posted by Linzyhop
Link to other teams being fined? Link to other teams cheat tapes on YouTube? On the flip side, I see other people being punished all the time for illegal drug use in baseball...not Bonds though. Your team cheats but for some reason (probably just because you like them) they get forgiven of their transgressions. If you don't see any problem with this, that's disgraceful. What's even worse is that you somehow felt justified to ignore their cheating because they are winning games? Wow. | ||||
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10-18-2007, 10:06 PM
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| Dirty Liberal Democrat South Jersey
| Originally Posted by Donkey® Link to proof that you are not an alien space in vader? Preferable a video on you tube...
You are obviously not a sports fan because you know seemingly nothing about either sport you are talking about. | ||||
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10-18-2007, 10:43 PM
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| Originally Posted by WickedLou9
Laughable. I have played basketball for over 20 years. I played both of those other sports in high school and as a kid. Like I said...you claim that "all teams cheat" then all you have to do is show some proof of it. "Are you an alien" is not even remotely close to being relevant to this thread. | ||||
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10-19-2007, 08:50 AM
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| no es mi culpa Independent Beantown
| Originally Posted by Donkey®
playing the sport in "high school and as a kid" does not mean you have a grasp on professional sports or how they're played. the Pats have been doing the same thing that all the other teams do but because they are continually a dominate team the other crybaby teams (read Jets) are continuously looking for ways to scream uncle. the pats are the first ones to get caught because they're being scrutinized first. they are most definitely not alone in their actions. | ||||
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10-19-2007, 08:56 AM
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| George W Bush, God's Tool  Independent ny
| Originally Posted by Linzyhop Being a fan doesn't make you an expert either
 Unless you have some evidence to support what you say, your guesses and opinions are as good as Donkey's
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10-19-2007, 09:04 AM
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| no es mi culpa Independent Beantown
| Originally Posted by David Octavius
actually i'm an employee of the stadium. but you're right, my points aren't necessarily any more valid that donkey's.... except that they are...  Last edited by Linzyhop; 10-19-2007 at 09:37 AM. | ||||
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10-19-2007, 09:13 AM
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