dumbledor is gay? - Page 3

jimeigh · 10-23-2007, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

I did lol at the "1/10 people are gay" thing, lol. I want to know if any of them have a third nipple then! I want to know if any of them have had their appendixes removed! lol, all that shit don't mean a thing.

why do you keep acting as though you forget how to read when you get to this part:

there was hinted to be a failed gay relationship of sorts in his past, and it helped to shape him into who he is. or something.

she decided he'd be gay to flesh out his character a bit more. that's all there is to it. it may not have any major implications in the story, but why should it need to? why should being gay have to be a trumendous ordeal? there WAS a black kid, yet no one cared. same thing, imo. he's gay. whoop de doo.

RMNIXON · 10-23-2007, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

Actually, I DID know that (about an old love interest that she turned down). I still think it's silly, though, to give him a sexuality when it's unimportant. I would be saying the same thing if she said he's straight. It just plain silly.

Rowling told the audience that while working on the planned sixth Potter film, "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince," she spotted a reference in the script to a girl who once was of interest to Dumbledore. A note was duly passed to director David Yates, revealing the truth about her character.

How hard would it be to simply tell the director she did not want this explored, it is not in the books. Some people seem to react as if someone has come out of the closet and we need to be supportive lest we be called a homophobe! And I do find that silly!

RMNIXON · 10-23-2007, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

The point in bringing it up is that a fan asked and wanted to know, she answered.. Something doesn't have to "add value" to the story in your eyes for it to be something that's okay to do.

Kind of an odd question though. What is the sexual past of an old man wizard in a childrens book? Now this has to be explained to any number of kids and a parent has a right to be comfortable of uncomfortable with that reality.

In Rowlings defense I do know someone who was there when it happened. It was just a question among many. After some quick applause everybody moved on. And this was a special program for adults. She already did a number of Kids programs.

But she also knows the press hears everything and the internet carries it like the wind. This became the story even though I was told it was a very cool event. She autographed a couple hundred books and was very nice to everyone who waited in line to meet her.

Ardentfrost · 10-24-2007, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by nbiggershaft

Harry Potter is the biggest book and may turn out to be film series of our times. You realize how much interest there was in every measly character in Star Wars. You could probably fill 10 swimming pools with backstory and after story of characters that didn't have a line in star wars. This stuff isn't uncommon or unwelcome (until someone turns out to be gay).

I didn't say I thought the Star Wars stuff wasn't silly also

HOWEVER, there's a lot of Star Wars stuff that is fan-created. That is a bit different, because they too can say whatever they want when making up a story. Further, there were a lot of Star Wars books made to bring out the back stories of minor characters in the movies.

It is a bit different, but I'd be saying the same thing if someone asked Lucas, "Did Obi Wan have any childhood regrets?" (or something like that) and it was justified with a real answer.

RMNIXON · 10-24-2007, 06:29 PM

Reminds me of Robot Chicken Star Wars "Emperor Phone Call"

The Emperor brings up Padme and after a pause says "Oh my, God he (Darth Vader) is crying!"

curlyque221 · 10-25-2007, 09:14 AM

I have to add my two sense in here...I apologize for being a literary and classical dork:

There are a number of things to think about, if we accept at face value that Dumbledore was homosexual. We also have to take at face value that this story has a lot to do with myth and magic.

In ancient Greek mythology, and really in ancient Greek lifestyles, it was not uncommon for older men to have young boys are their companions. Pederasty was essentially the sexual relationship between teacher and student. It leads one to think about whether Dumbledore's relationship with Harry was that of a father who loves his son, or whether there may have been something more driving him. The whole homosexual notion was the Dumbledore had strong feelings for Grindewald, a wizard who was equal in his powers and equally interested in the strange magic of the Hallows. Grindewald is gone, and here comes Harry, also an equally powerful wizard (heck, even more powerful considering he killed Voldemort) who is also interested in the terrible powers that come with the Hallows. It changes the relationship between the two.

I don't agree with how Rowling presented it though. She who talks furiously about wanting to be done with Harry shouldn't be opening such a can of worms. This really should have led into some sort of Harry Potter Encyclopedia, where she could have presented her intentions for all the characters without worrying about the speculation that would be passed around.

It was a silly thing to do and unnecessary to the story as it stands, but we should keep in mind that obviously she wants us to think about Dumbledore in a different way.

JaJae · 10-25-2007, 01:16 PM

^ nerd.

Stylerod · 10-25-2007, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by curlyque221

In ancient Greek mythology, and really in ancient Greek lifestyles, it was not uncommon for older men to have young boys are their companions. Pederasty was essentially the sexual relationship between teacher and student. .

Hense the old joke:

Q) How do they seperate the men from the boys in Greece?

A) With a crowbar!

Scrum · 10-25-2007, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by curlyque221

This really should have led into some sort of Harry Potter Encyclopedia, where she could have presented her intentions for all the characters without worrying about the speculation that would be passed around.

Last I heard, she is doing a HP encyclopedia.

RMNIXON · 10-25-2007, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Hense the old joke:

Q) How do they seperate the men from the boys in Greec

A) With a crowbar!

Let me show ya how to grow up and be a man of Sparta!

RMNIXON · 10-25-2007, 05:55 PM

Are we sure J.K. was not confused about somebody else?

Linzyhop · 10-26-2007, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by RMNIXON

Are we sure J.K. was not confused about somebody else?

dude. he kinda looks like Elijah Wood in this picture...... scary. wizards and hobbits UNITE!

7960 · 10-31-2007, 09:08 AM

Harry Potter and the Tattoo of Regret

an unexpected consequence of "dumbledor is gay" ..... tattoo regret!

Proud Paul, 36, spent a YEAR having the Hogwarts headmaster etched into his skin as a surprise for his five kids.

But the factory worker has been the butt of jokes ever since Harry Potter author JK Rowling revealed last week that Dumbledore was in love with a fellow male sorcerer.

Paul, of Nottingham, moaned yesterday: "It's been terrible. I've always liked Dumbledore - just not in that way.

Scrum · 10-31-2007, 09:15 AM

Roonie · 10-31-2007, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by 7960

Harry Potter and the Tattoo of Regret

an unexpected consequence of "dumbledor is gay" ..... tattoo regret!

that has to be the funniest thing I have seen in awhile. The guy looks like he is not the sharpest tool in the shed to begin with.

RMNIXON · 10-31-2007, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by Roonie

that has to be the funniest thing I have seen in awhile. The guy looks like he is not the sharpest tool in the shed to begin with.

If you should live long enough how do you explain that?

"OH, there were these books and movies popular 30 years ago. So I put a huge permanent mark on my body. I did not know he was GAY!"