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Old 10-23-2007, 08:08 AM   #21
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Old 10-23-2007, 09:15 AM   #22
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Why can't our air force dump water?? The National Guard used to fight fires, where are they?
don't try to bring the war into this........... why can't they dump water? because someone estimated it would take 3 days of steady rain to put out the fires. You think the air force......you think ANYONE can make it rain over 300,000 acres for 3 days?
 
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Old 10-23-2007, 09:24 AM   #23
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Old 10-23-2007, 09:25 AM   #24
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don't try to bring the war into this........... why can't they dump water? because someone estimated it would take 3 days of steady rain to put out the fires. You think the air force......you think ANYONE can make it rain over 300,000 acres for 3 days?
 
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:21 AM   #25
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:51 AM   #26
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Originally Posted by crestwood33 View Post
Why can't our air force dump water?? The National Guard used to fight fires, where are they?
They are. actually.. However the high winds and poor conditions make it impossible sometimes.
 
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Old 10-23-2007, 11:21 AM   #27
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They are. actually.. However the high winds and poor conditions make it impossible sometimes.
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Old 10-23-2007, 11:23 AM   #28
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So now what is your answer??
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propertys???
1. welcome

2. please try to post an entire, coherent thought

3. wtf are you talking about?
 
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Old 10-23-2007, 11:43 AM   #29
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Old 10-23-2007, 11:55 AM   #30
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:01 PM   #31
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Originally Posted by crestwood33 View Post
Why can't our air force dump water?? The National Guard used to fight fires, where are they?
There's a few reasons we can't dump water as much as some people would like:
1. The smoke is so great in these fires that it will choke the planes.
2. It's so hot the water will evaporate before it does any good.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:24 PM   #32
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
There's a few reasons we can't dump water as much as some people would like:
1. The smoke is so great in these fires that it will choke the planes.
2. It's so hot the water will evaporate before it does any good.
They had a climate expert on CNN the other day talking about the weather conditions that lead to these large fires. Those winds are extremely hot and are less that 5% humidity.

Dumping water from planes in those conditions isn't a solution.
 
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:47 PM   #33
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It's not the enviro-wackos, it's all the homosexuals and abortions.

Possibly also the atheists and scientologists as well.
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:48 PM   #34
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They had a climate expert on CNN the other day talking about the weather conditions that lead to these large fires. Those winds are extremely hot and are less that 5% humidity.

Dumping water from planes in those conditions isn't a solution.
Yea, but they're not 800° winds. In the grand scheme of things, I can't see how a 60° 50mph wind is any less dangerous than a 85° 50mph wind.
 
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:03 PM   #35
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Yea, but they're not 800° winds. In the grand scheme of things, I can't see how a 60° 50mph wind is any less dangerous than a 85° 50mph wind.
I think it has more to do with the lack of humidity.

The wind is making the fuel even more dry.
 
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:11 PM   #36
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Originally Posted by Scrum View Post
I think it has more to do with the lack of humidity.

The wind is making the fuel even more dry.
And it probably carries away moisture. Warmer air can hold more moisture so as it blows across the area is dries everything out.
 
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Originally Posted by Scrum View Post
I think it has more to do with the lack of humidity.

The wind is making the fuel even more dry.
making it more dry, making more fuel, making it easier to start a fire, making it easier to spread, making it burn hotter........................




I really don't understand that "but they're not 800° winds" comment.
 
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:16 PM   #38
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on the scene at the beginning it would have been easy to kill the fire.
 
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:19 PM   #39
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Originally Posted by crestwood33 View Post
on the scene at the beginning it would have been easy to kill the fire.
These fires have gotten out of control at times when the guard was not deployed in the past.

I don't think you can really blame this on a lack of manpower. The fires are just too big.
 
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:21 PM   #40
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Originally Posted by crestwood33 View Post
on the scene at the beginning it would have been easy to kill the fire.
-where is your evidence of this?
-when has the national guard been "on the scene" at the start of *ANY* fire?

-why do you continue to just throw useless one-liners out there without anything backing them up?
 
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