Glenn Beck's comment about the wildfires - Page 2

6SpeedTA95 · 10-24-2007, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

x11ty billion.

The claim hasn't been exaggerated, he said what he said, and his producers didn't say it was a 'skit' or 'parody'.. if that was what it was, they would have come out and said that immediately to take pressure off of him.

Figures the same people who went after Kerry's botched joke have no problems with this guy spewing hateful bullshit at people suffering a tragedy.. it's so sad and pathetic when partisanship trumps common sense.

There's a difference between PC/non-PC comments and what this tool said.

Sure or it could have been sarcasm, or maybe it wasn't? I didn't hear his show today. But having listened to his show for years and I listen to him still when I am traveling I know his show and I know media matters is just itching to throw another conservative under the bus.

Glenn Beck isn't politically correct, he's wrong a lot of the time at least in my opinion. He's a right wing conservative and he says it each and every show. You dont listen to his show to get the news or to get a balanced perspective on anything. You listen to his show to be entertained and get the POV of right wing conservatives.

motivez · 10-24-2007, 11:06 PM

This story has been all over the internets for days, it's not something that's exclusive to the Media Matters page..

Shit, even the people at hotair ( Hot Air » Blog Archive » Glenn Beck: A lot of people who hate America are losing their homes in the wildfire ) recognize it was a stupid thing to say, the idea that this is somehow defensible is just downright stupid

There's a complete difference between being someone who's not "politically correct" (ie: Bill Maher, Howard Stern) and this.. this is way beyond a simple lack of political correctness.

I don't understand how anyone can be so simple minded as to be entertained by this kind of drivel, how many times can you hear "they disagree, thus they hate America, and bad things that happen to them are good" before it's tiring?

JaJae · 10-24-2007, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

x11ty billion.

The claim hasn't been exaggerated, he said what he said, and his producers didn't say it was a 'skit' or 'parody'.. if that was what it was, they would have come out and said that immediately to take pressure off of him.

Figures the same people who went after Kerry's botched joke have no problems with this guy spewing hateful bullshit at people suffering a tragedy.. it's so sad and pathetic when partisanship trumps common sense.

There's a difference between PC/non-PC comments and what this tool said.

You heard the show?

6SpeedTA95 · 10-24-2007, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

This story has been all over the internets for days, it's not something that's exclusive to the Media Matters page..

Shit, even the people at hotair ( Hot Air » Blog Archive » Glenn Beck: A lot of people who hate America are losing their homes in the wildfire ) recognize it was a stupid thing to say, the idea that this is somehow defensible is just downright stupid

There's a complete difference between being someone who's not "politically correct" (ie: Bill Maher, Howard Stern) and this.. this is way beyond a simple lack of political correctness.

I don't understand how anyone can be so simple minded as to be entertained by this kind of drivel, how many times can you hear "they disagree, thus they hate America, and bad things that happen to them are good" before it's tiring?

dunno dude I'm gonna have to try to find the segment on his website or youtube or something, he says a lot of stupid shit, maybe this is one of those? But I dont trust media matters and for good reason, they love throwing people under the bus that disagree with their far left political view.

6SpeedTA95 · 10-24-2007, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

This story has been all over the internets for days, it's not something that's exclusive to the Media Matters page..

Shit, even the people at hotair ( Hot Air » Blog Archive » Glenn Beck: A lot of people who hate America are losing their homes in the wildfire ) recognize it was a stupid thing to say, the idea that this is somehow defensible is just downright stupid

There's a complete difference between being someone who's not "politically correct" (ie: Bill Maher, Howard Stern) and this.. this is way beyond a simple lack of political correctness.

I don't understand how anyone can be so simple minded as to be entertained by this kind of drivel, how many times can you hear "they disagree, thus they hate America, and bad things that happen to them are good" before it's tiring?

He's never said just because someone disagrees with him or bush that they hate america. He has said there's a segment of the population that does hate america, there's a big difference between that and you making the assertion you just made about his show.

Donkey® · 10-25-2007, 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by JaJae

I think there's a big difference between blaming an unfounded scientific argument and attacking the patriotism of the people who lost their homes.

You guys never tire of this nonsense. Is the earth getting hotter or not?

JaJae · 10-25-2007, 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

You guys never tire of this nonsense. Is the earth getting hotter or not?

Of course it is, but that doesn't mean global warming caused this fire. This fire was likely the product of arson at worst and at best the product of poor environmental policy of underbrush and preventing natural smaller fires.

Donkey® · 10-25-2007, 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Of course it is, but that doesn't mean global warming caused this fire. This fire was likely the product of arson at worst and at best the product of poor environmental policy of underbrush and preventing natural smaller fires.

It looks like you were calling global warming an "unfounded scientific argument."

JaJae · 10-25-2007, 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

It looks like you were calling global warming an "unfounded scientific argument."

No the unfounded scientific argument is blaming the CA wildfires on global warming. Which is far less of a big deal than attacking the victim's patriotism.

Joe_Cool · 10-29-2007, 06:57 PM

Media Matters has lots of credibility. Really.

motivez · 10-29-2007, 06:57 PM

Because this is a media matter only story. Really.

Joe_Cool · 10-29-2007, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

Because this is a media matter only story. Really.

Great. Tell us everything he said in context. Did you even hear his show, or are you (predictably) just regurgitating reports ABOUT conservatives that you read on liberal websites?

motivez · 10-29-2007, 08:33 PM

I don't need to hear the show to look at transcripts, and if you had read the thread you'd see several conservative websites had also said pretty much the same thing I posted.

I actually got it off hotair.com and followed several links until it lead me to USAToday, figured I'd post the Media Matters one as well since I know how much you love them

motivez · 10-29-2007, 08:45 PM

Oh, and would you care to address what was actually said? Or is your intention to keep the topic focused on your dislike of one of the websites I linked in the original post?

Ardentfrost · 10-30-2007, 09:36 AM

Glenn Beck is retarded. Just this morning he literally said "Ron Paul has crazy ideas and is supported by neo-nazis" and "If it were Ron Paul vs. Hilary Clinton, Hilary would look more appealing."

I think it doesn't matter at all what this fool says, but that's my opinion

motivez · 10-30-2007, 11:10 AM

I'm not saying his opinion really matters, I just find it extremely distasteful and a measure of what's wrong with the media these days.. he's trying to take what should be regarded as a natural disaster and personal tragedy to a lot of people, and trying to inject divisive politics for no good reason.

Again, it's one thing to bring up the environmental issues associated with the wildfires, but this is a completely different thing..

This guy is given an important position as a prime time pundit on CNN, it lets him air this bullshit to far too many people, and it just really sucks that this is what the news has devolved into.

Ardentfrost · 10-30-2007, 01:31 PM

He's on CNN prime time? I only know who he is because he's on in the mornings on the Fox affiliate AM talk radio station I listen to for Wallstreet Journal news.

Rouger2 · 10-30-2007, 01:52 PM

He was just making a little dig at those southern california very liberal movie stars. Some of them did lose their homes.

Joe_Cool · 10-30-2007, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

Oh, and would you care to address what was actually said? Or is your intention to keep the topic focused on your dislike of one of the websites I linked in the original post?

Glad to.

Let's examine the facts.

1. There are people in America who hate America.
2. Of those people, at least some (arguably a significant number of them) live in California. Do you deny it?
3. Of those who live in California, it's reasonable to believe that a handful of them lost their homes to the fires.

Which of these do you deny?

The only problem I see is your typical eagerness to demonize him because he doesn't preach your point of view. It's exactly the same bullshit you pulled twisting Limbaugh's words.

Scrum · 10-30-2007, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Joe_Cool

1. There are people in America who hate America.

Like who?