Originally Posted by Scrum Like who? Yeah, I was unaware of any substantial portion of Americans who *hate* America. I am aware of people who are critical of America's policy choices (a lot of us are in this category), and often these people are accused of hating America by neo-conservatives, ...
10-30-2007, 02:34 PM
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| For those about to rock...  libertarian Atlanta, GA 
| Originally Posted by Scrum Yeah, I was unaware of any substantial portion of Americans who *hate* America. I am aware of people who are critical of America's policy choices (a lot of us are in this category), and often these people are accused of hating America by neo-conservatives, but that doesn't make it true. 
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10-30-2007, 02:41 PM
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| ipsa Scientia Potestas est  Pragmatist North Carolina
| I'm not "demonizing" him, I don't think he's subhuman or evil, just a complete douchebag who shouldn't be given a large audience to spread his douchebaggery to. What he said is typical of the radical right wing pundits (like Hannity, Coulter, Limbaugh) who thrive on trying to divide the country whenever they possibly can, no matter how ridiculous and pathetic it is to inject that sort of divisiveness into a discussion about a subject. The rationale for his comment is: liberal people live in California, liberal people disagree with him/you on an issue important to him/you, you/him love America, therefore they must hate America, because people who disagree on issues certainly can't both love the country they live in! It's the same idiotic bullshit we've been hearing for years from the right wing. I'm personally sick of it.. and I'm even more sick of this being the standard for successful media personalities in the country. As far as the Limbaugh issue, once again, it's called a disagreement. You aren't right because you feel I'm wrong, and vice versa. | ||||
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10-30-2007, 02:47 PM
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| ipsa Scientia Potestas est Pragmatist North Carolina
| Originally Posted by Ardentfrost Exactly.
He didn't say what he said because he said to himself: "There's people in the country who hate America. Some of them might be in California. If some of them are in California, it stands to reason that they might own a house, and since a lot of houses are being destroyed, it stands to reason that a lot of those America haters are having their houses destroyed! Rejoice!" The idea that he did is a load of crap. Instead, he used the reasoning that the right wing has used for years to come to their definition of "hating America," which I addressed in my last post. | ||||
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10-30-2007, 03:55 PM
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| Originally Posted by Scrum How the hell do I know? It's not my job to keep track.
Are you saying that every single person who lives here loves the US? | ||||
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10-30-2007, 04:00 PM
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| Originally Posted by motivez I see. You support freedom of speech only if it's speech you agree with.
 Democrats aren't divisive at all. Nope. Never.
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10-30-2007, 04:01 PM
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| Originally Posted by motivez What lottery numbers are going to win next week? I've never met a real psychic before. This is awesome!
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10-30-2007, 04:04 PM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator  Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by Joe_Cool Well you are the one that said it. I would think you could name at least one?
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10-30-2007, 04:06 PM
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| ipsa Scientia Potestas est Pragmatist North Carolina
| Originally Posted by Joe_Cool You don't need to be a psychic to see that he was using the same reasoning every other person like him has been using to make those comments for the last few years..
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10-30-2007, 04:12 PM
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| ipsa Scientia Potestas est Pragmatist North Carolina
| Originally Posted by Joe_Cool I think he has a right to say it, I don't agree with a private company giving him a platform to do it from because I think it's harmful to the political discourse in the country.
You might do better asking me a question before you come to your Originally Posted by Joe_Cool Where did I say that? Oh wait, I didn't.
Originally Posted by Joe_Cool I don't remember seeing that in the transcript of his show, maybe the transcript I saw was redacted, can you provide a link?
Originally Posted by Joe_Cool In other words, you can't accept the fact that two different people are capable of forming different opinions on the same issue based on the available information?
What that means is that you're not (interested in) debating, you're (interested in) preaching. | ||||
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10-30-2007, 04:13 PM
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| ipsa Scientia Potestas est Pragmatist North Carolina
| Originally Posted by Scrum See two posts up, apparently it's everyone with different political beliefs who live in California.
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10-30-2007, 04:43 PM
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| Originally Posted by motivez Why would you expect to see my words in a transcript of Glenn Beck? And here's a link to the source: Glenn Beck's comment about the wildfires
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10-30-2007, 04:44 PM
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| Originally Posted by motivez Are you really this fucking dense, or are you trolling your own board? It's too bad "putting words in other people's mouths" isn't a paying gig. You'd be rich.
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10-30-2007, 04:45 PM
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10-30-2007, 04:54 PM
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| Originally Posted by motivez Without a doubt.
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