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Old 08-30-2006, 02:11 PM   #41
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Israel isn't afraid of war because they don't give a rats ass about the consequences when their bombing stops. They are not ever going to try and occupy and democratize - and why should they? They can build walls around their entire little nation to protect their own people and let the rest fend for themselves in the aftermath. We're the only fools who will waste our billions trying to make those we have bombed our friends again.
 
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Old 08-30-2006, 02:33 PM   #42
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sanctions never work, there is no answer for iran, and if you think you have an answer than chances you are wrong. ahme is a crazy madman, the only thing that would stop him is a bullet to the head, but another war in the middle east is asking far too much from the troops so thats out, you cant talk to the guy, so thats out, the UN has no effect on anyone, this is too complicated and i think we have to wait it out. israel isnt afraid of iran because if israel and iran get in a war, it would be army v army, not army v guerillas in civilian areas, so it would be a much easier war for israel.
Sanctions dont work because someone will continue to buy their oil.
 
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Old 08-30-2006, 03:08 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by slosucks View Post
israel isnt afraid of iran because if israel and iran get in a war, it would be army v army, not army v guerillas in civilian areas, so it would be a much easier war for israel.
Good, then we can withdraw our suppost and let them handle these things on their own since I will be so easy for them.
 
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Old 08-30-2006, 05:55 PM   #44
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Originally Posted by thomez View Post
Israel isn't afraid of war because they don't give a rats ass about the consequences when their bombing stops. They are not ever going to try and occupy and democratize - and why should they? They can build walls around their entire little nation to protect their own people and let the rest fend for themselves in the aftermath. We're the only fools who will waste our billions trying to make those we have bombed our friends again.
agreed, i never said israel will try to democratize anyone, israel only attacks when its being attacked, it has no interest in other countriy's goings on as long as it is safe. you attack us, we destroy you, we leave and defend ourselves when you attack us again.
 
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Old 08-30-2006, 05:56 PM   #45
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Good, then we can withdraw our suppost and let them handle these things on their own since I will be so easy for them.
no thanks, israel is happy with the aid it receives from its number 1 ally and is forever grateful for it.
 
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Old 08-30-2006, 06:04 PM   #46
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Originally Posted by slosucks View Post
agreed, i never said israel will try to democratize anyone, israel only attacks when its being attacked, it has no interest in other countriy's goings on as long as it is safe. you attack us, we destroy you, we leave and defend ourselves when you attack us again.
ya, pretty sensical foreign policy, and easy to do when you can fence yourself into a tiny nation

we aren't so fortunate (nor do we want to secure our borders it seems) so we dream up ineffective and expensive means of trying to change the world
 
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Old 08-30-2006, 06:48 PM   #47
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Originally Posted by slosucks View Post
no thanks, israel is happy with the aid it receives from its number 1 ally and is forever grateful for it.
But you think it can stand on it's own?

Isn't that like a millionare collecting welfare?
 
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Old 08-30-2006, 11:13 PM   #48
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This story is proof that the UN is absolutely worthless, but yet Thorgrim still finds a way to place this at the feet of the US and Israel.





















 
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Old 08-30-2006, 11:17 PM   #49
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Where did I mention Isreal?
 
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Old 08-30-2006, 11:41 PM   #50
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So...we know China and Russia won't agree to sanctions. Alot of you say "that's the failure of the UN" which is total crap. Just because the US and Israel have a position on something EVERYONE HAS TO AGREE? Are they not allowed to think for themselves? Are they not allowed to look after their own interests? Iran is no threat to anyone except the dumbshits that confront them. The dumbshits that are constantly harping at them. You think China is scared of Iran? Iran has no issue with China. Iran has no issue with Russia. Could it be that Iran has legit beef with US and Israel?

"Bomb Iran" is a constant harping on here which I don't understand. Do you guys not look at the news? We bombed Afghanistan. We bombed Iraq. What the fuck did that accomplish? Say what you want, Iran doesn't fuck with us at this point. They talk, yes, Chavez does the same thing. Castro does the same thing. But it's talk. If we bomb Iran it's going to do NOTHING to help Israel stay safe and it will do NOTHING but increase the hatred people have for us in the Muslim countries. "Leave them the fuck alone" and "let Israel fend for themselves" are more viable options than you guys want to give them credit for.
 
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Old 08-30-2006, 11:45 PM   #51
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For reason people think the UN is supposed to be the world government or the diplomatic propaganda machine of the US

The UN is just the place for world diplomacy, thats why EVERYONE is allowed in...

Of course, conservatives mock the UN monday, use it Tuesday, and mock it again wednesday...its really quite humorous
 
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Old 08-31-2006, 02:43 AM   #52
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Where did I mention Isreal?
Your first fucking post.
 
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Old 08-31-2006, 03:26 AM   #53
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Originally Posted by archangel003 View Post
Your first fucking post.
I wasn't talking about Israel having direct talks with Iran, I was talking about the US, I didn't "blame" Israel for anything...I was calling for the US to act
 
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Old 08-31-2006, 07:40 AM   #54
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Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent View Post
Iran continuing a weapons program isn't a warning?
The US government says so. Not proof
 
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Old 08-31-2006, 08:09 AM   #55
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the day has arrived. i wonder how the long the UN can keep giving them 'deadlines'? how many deadlines does the UN have up its sleeve? i wonder how many times the UN will give Iran deadlines before Iran just laughs at them and realizes the UN means nothing? Soon the UN will be asking the US to invade...

Iran ignores powers, UN on enrichment
 
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U.S. Drafting Sanctions as Iran Ignores Deadline
 
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
the day has arrived. i wonder how the long the UN can keep giving them 'deadlines'? how many deadlines does the UN have up its sleeve? i wonder how many times the UN will give Iran deadlines before Iran just laughs at them and realizes the UN means nothing? Soon the UN will be asking the US to invade...

Iran ignores powers, UN on enrichment
Why do you keep looking to an organization, that you hold zero respect for, to solve problems?
 
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Old 08-31-2006, 08:38 AM   #58
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Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent View Post
Why do you keep looking to an organization, that you hold zero respect for, to solve problems?
i'm not looking to them for anything. i'm following the timeline of the case against iran.

even moreso, i'm updating this thread.
 
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Old 08-31-2006, 08:42 AM   #59
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
i'm not looking to them for anything.


Yes you are.
 
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Old 08-31-2006, 08:44 AM   #60
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Yes you are.
here's the only organization i look to for anything:

Soon the UN will be asking the US to invade...
if you notice, the whole rant against the UN means that they are completely inept. or did you not read it?
 
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