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Old 08-31-2006, 11:34 AM   #61
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So...we know China and Russia won't agree to sanctions. Alot of you say "that's the failure of the UN" which is total crap. Just because the US and Israel have a position on something EVERYONE HAS TO AGREE? Are they not allowed to think for themselves? Are they not allowed to look after their own interests? Iran is no threat to anyone except the dumbshits that confront them. The dumbshits that are constantly harping at them. You think China is scared of Iran? Iran has no issue with China. Iran has no issue with Russia. Could it be that Iran has legit beef with US and Israel?

"Bomb Iran" is a constant harping on here which I don't understand. Do you guys not look at the news? We bombed Afghanistan. We bombed Iraq. What the fuck did that accomplish? Say what you want, Iran doesn't fuck with us at this point. They talk, yes, Chavez does the same thing. Castro does the same thing. But it's talk. If we bomb Iran it's going to do NOTHING to help Israel stay safe and it will do NOTHING but increase the hatred people have for us in the Muslim countries. "Leave them the fuck alone" and "let Israel fend for themselves" are more viable options than you guys want to give them credit for.


Has israel annexed any land from iran, has israel been at war with iran (directly)? no, so why is iran calling for the destruction of israel? possibly a fanatical leader looking to kill a bunch of people? noooooooooo not the muslims, they couldnt possibly want to kill anyone
 
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Old 08-31-2006, 12:49 PM   #62
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
Soon the UN will be asking the US to invade...

Like they did for Iraq huh?
 
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Old 08-31-2006, 01:14 PM   #63
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Originally Posted by Donkey® View Post
Like they did for Iraq huh?
como se what?
 
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Old 08-31-2006, 01:40 PM   #64
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
como se what?


The UN asking us to invade Iraq...
 
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Old 08-31-2006, 05:37 PM   #65
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
I wasn't talking about Israel having direct talks with Iran, I was talking about the US, I didn't "blame" Israel for anything...I was calling for the US to act
Ok, why did you say "the US and Israel" then?
 
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Old 08-31-2006, 05:47 PM   #66
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Originally Posted by archangel003 View Post
Ok, why did you say "the US and Israel" then?
well if Israel would bomb Iran, the US couldn't talk to Iran

that's not blaming Israel, because they haven't bombed Iran
 
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Old 08-31-2006, 05:49 PM   #67
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
well if Israel would bomb Iran, the US couldn't talk to Iran

that's not blaming Israel, because they haven't bombed Iran
If Israel bombed Iran, the US wouldn't need to talk to Iran anymore.
 
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Originally Posted by archangel003 View Post
If Israel bombed Iran, the US wouldn't need to talk to Iran anymore.
exactly
 
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Old 09-01-2006, 05:44 AM   #69
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
if you notice, the whole rant against the UN means that they are completely inept. or did you not read it?
You the world does not often act as one? It's not like you can blame the UN for being inept, it is what nations make of it.

The problem really is different nations take a different view of what should be done for varying reasons
 
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Does anyone really believe that even if sanctions happen this month, it's going to be anything significant enough to deter Iran from continuing?

With the support of Russia and China, there's no way. Anything done will be a slap on the wrist because Russia and China are going to be looking out for their own interests.
 
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Old 09-05-2006, 03:40 PM   #71
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
Does anyone really believe that even if sanctions happen this month, it's going to be anything significant enough to deter Iran from continuing?

With the support of Russia and China, there's no way. Anything done will be a slap on the wrist because Russia and China are going to be looking out for their own interests.


Been saying that for a bit now. This whole thing isn't worth the rhetoric.
 
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