Bill Maher making fun of republicans - Page 4

SpicyMcVoodoo · 09-01-2006, 02:20 AM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Wrong. If people REALLY followed what most religions say; ie No Sex Before Marriage, STD's would not exist

Neither would the shell fish industry.

SICKGUY · 09-01-2006, 03:23 AM

apart from the sex jokes, i think he makes pretty good points

IminWonderland · 09-01-2006, 04:41 AM

But even his sex jokes make valid points about the irony of our culture.

motivez · 09-01-2006, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by IminWonderland

Ever read the Bible? In the Bible, God is the cause of those two.

Because that's God punishing people.

Excellent point.

Stylerod · 09-01-2006, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by IminWonderland

Ever read the Bible? In the Bible, God is the cause of those two.

Because that's God punishing people.

So that is what you believe?

IminWonderland · 09-01-2006, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

So that is what you believe?

It's not about what I "believe", it's what I read.

In the Bible, God has sent plagues, mass deaths, famine, destroyed civilizations, and killed babies.

Then Jesus came, apparently God settled down, because he doesn't need to do that himself anymore, because now people just do it in his name.

I am starting to find, that the more of an education I get, the more I read, and the more I critically think about these beliefs, the more I am convinced that people like Bill Maher have really valid points about religion. I am not talking about people who mind their business and go to church for their own salvation. I'm talking about Zealots, prophets, Extremists, Fundamentalists, all of which have increased SIGNIFICANTLY in the past 50 years. When people now convert to religion, they aren't just converting for the Sunday Ice Cream Social, they are converting for what they think is the salvation of all man kind, and that this is an evil world ready to be cleansed as prophesized (talking about fundamentalist Christianity and Islam). I know this first hand, because my own Mother is one of these people who let's her religion do her thinking for her, without regard to her own thinking skills to be able to differentiate in the Bible what's just a good idea to ponder, and what she feels needs to be applied to EVERYONE.

In this country, no matter how badly Kathrine Harris wants it to be...it is not a country that should base it's laws and government on the Fundamentalist view of what Christianity is, and that's what they want, that is what the Fundamentalists want, that is what these zealots want. They ultimatley want the mass conversion of everyone because they believe we are in the end times.

It all sounds so crazy. I can't believe people believe it.

I'm with Bill Maher when it comes to religion.

Stylerod · 09-01-2006, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by IminWonderland

It's not about what I "believe", it's what I read.

In the Bible, God has sent plagues, mass deaths, famine, destroyed civilizations, and killed babies.

Then Jesus came, apparently God settled down, because he doesn't need to do that himself anymore, because now people just do it in his name.

I am starting to find, that the more of an education I get, the more I read, and the more I critically think about these beliefs, the more I am convinced that people like Bill Maher have really valid points about religion. I am not talking about people who mind their business and go to church for their own salvation. I'm talking about Zealots, prophets, Extremists, Fundamentalists, all of which have increased SIGNIFICANTLY in the past 50 years. When people now convert to religion, they aren't just converting for the Sunday Ice Cream Social, they are converting for what they think is the salvation of all man kind, and that this is an evil world ready to be cleansed as prophesized (talking about fundamentalist Christianity and Islam). I know this first hand, because my own Mother is one of these people who let's her religion do her thinking for her, without regard to her own thinking skills to be able to differentiate in the Bible what's just a good idea to ponder, and what she feels needs to be applied to EVERYONE.

In this country, no matter how badly Kathrine Harris wants it to be...it is not a country that should base it's laws and government on the Fundamentalist view of what Christianity is, and that's what they want, that is what the Fundamentalists want, that is what these zealots want. They ultimatley want the mass conversion of everyone because they believe we are in the end times.

It all sounds so crazy. I can't believe people believe it.

I'm with Bill Maher when it comes to religion.

More than 90% of Americans beleive in God. Most don't think like Harris does. And you using that to hate on everyone who beleives in God is sad.

I was an athiest when I was your age too. I learned not to be bitter as I got older and then I grew out of it.

Let's face it. Churches and religious institutions do the majority charity work across the world. They feed, shelter, and get medical treatment for millions. For the most part, they are all a good thing. Trying to hate on them because of what a few people say or do is just ignorant.

Stylerod · 09-01-2006, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by IminWonderland

It all sounds so crazy. I can't believe people believe it.

I'm with Bill Maher when it comes to religion.

Oh, and at least when I was an athiest I still respected peoples beliefs. I didn't call them crazy or idiots or say they must also believe in the tooth fairy. That is just disrepectful, hurtful, ignorant and wrong.

Scrum · 09-01-2006, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

I was an athiest when I was your age too. I learned not to be bitter as I got older and then I grew out of it.

Bitterness has nothing to do with your beliefs in a god.

Stylerod · 09-01-2006, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent

Bitterness has nothing to do with your beliefs in a god.

It did with me.

Scrum · 09-01-2006, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Oh, and at least when I was an athiest I still respected peoples beliefs. I didn't call them crazy or idiots or say they must also believe in the tooth fairy. That is just disrepectful, hurtful, ignorant and wrong.

And perfectly within peoples rights.

Do you think people who walk down the street wearing signs about the end of the world are crazy?

How about Tom Cruise? I bet you respect his beliefs.

Stylerod · 09-01-2006, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent

And perfectly within peoples rights.

Do you think people who walk down the street wearing signs about the end of the world are crazy?

How about Tom Cruise? I bet you respect his beliefs.

I might thinks the person walking down the street with a sign is strange (just as I would if someone was walking with a sign saying he loves donuts, or save the whales or look at me!), but I wouldn't yell at him that he was stupid.

I don't know anything about Tom Cruise or his beliefs. I know he's a scientologist (sp???) and think it's fine for him. Who cares.

Am I going to say all Scientologists are crazy? Whacked out? Still believe in Santa? Nope.

TheScatman · 09-01-2006, 02:06 PM

I dont see who isnt really making fun of Republicans at this point. Im pretty sure they arent the party of limited government anymore

IminWonderland · 09-01-2006, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

More than 90% of Americans beleive in God. Most don't think like Harris does. And you using that to hate on everyone who beleives in God is sad.

I was an athiest when I was your age too. I learned not to be bitter as I got older and then I grew out of it.

Let's face it. Churches and religious institutions do the majority charity work across the world. They feed, shelter, and get medical treatment for millions. For the most part, they are all a good thing. Trying to hate on them because of what a few people say or do is just ignorant.

If you read my post more clearly, I was talking about people who are vocal fundamentalists. I am not talking about your average believer, I am talking about the people who believe that their beliefs are not only the only path to God, but believe that they need to put everyone else on that path, by force if necessary.

And I never said I was an Athiest. I said that I could see what Bill Maher is saying.

For the most part, everything is a good thing. But, I'm sorry, we aren't talking about just a "few" people in a religion. We are talking about mass movements of people in both Christianity, and Islam. We are talking about alot of people becoming extreme, and that is scary.

Stylerod · 09-01-2006, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by IminWonderland

If you read my post more clearly, I was talking about people who are vocal fundamentalists. I am not talking about your average believer, I am talking about the people who believe that their beliefs are not only the only path to God, but believe that they need to put everyone else on that path, by force if necessary.

And I never said I was an Athiest. I said that I could see what Bill Maher is saying.

For the most part, everything is a good thing. But, I'm sorry, we aren't talking about just a "few" people in a religion. We are talking about mass movements of people in both Christianity, and Islam. We are talking about alot of people becoming extreme, and that is scary.

That's good to know, I guess. It was this that threw me.

"I'm with Bill Maher when it comes to religion."

He thinks anyone that believes in God is a moron.

You would never hear me say "I'm with Pat Robertson when it comes to religion" because I know how EXTREME he can be and it would be misunderstood.

IminWonderland · 09-01-2006, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Oh, and at least when I was an athiest I still respected peoples beliefs. I didn't call them crazy or idiots or say they must also believe in the tooth fairy. That is just disrepectful, hurtful, ignorant and wrong.

Crazy is relative. One man's religion, is another man's cult.

And I do respect people's beliefs. You can believe what you want to believe. But you need to be prepared for people to disagree and for them to believe that it's assinine and insane.

I remember hearing that Church's at one time in this country taught that every time a man ejaculates via masturbation, that the man would run out of sperm.

At one point, the Church's taught that white men were superior to black men.

The Protestant Church's all sects of them have such a wide variable of teaching, because each one is interpreting the same book in different ways. That they can make claims that are just assinine, and get away with it by using two lines of scripture to back it up.

So, to some people, yeah, some of these things are crazy. Sorry.

IminWonderland · 09-01-2006, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

That's good to know, I guess. It was this that threw me.

"I'm with Bill Maher when it comes to religion."

He thinks anyone that believes in God is a moron.

You would never hear me say "I'm with Pat Robertson when it comes to religion" because I know how EXTREME he can be and it would be misunderstood.

I'm with Bill Maher, in that I think that extremists on both sides are taking this too far. And that I believe that they do want world wide conversion on both sides. And that some of their ideas, are nuts.

Not all of them of course, I don't make blanket statements like that. But Fundamentalists...Extremists...yeah. Nuts.

Stylerod · 09-01-2006, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by IminWonderland

I'm with Bill Maher, in that I think that extremists on both sides are taking this too far. And that I believe that they do want world wide conversion on both sides. And that some of their ideas, are nuts.

Not all of them of course, I don't make blanket statements like that. But Fundamentalists...Extremists...yeah. Nuts.

Then you aren't with Maher. He thinks "anyone" that believes in God is nuts.

SpicyMcVoodoo · 09-01-2006, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Then you aren't with Maher. He thinks "anyone" that believes in God is nuts.

You're misrepresenting Maher's beliefs. He's said before that he believes in God, just not religion. A lot of people don't understand the distinction because they've never considered that God and religion aren't the same thing.

Quote:

"I'm not an atheist. There's a really big difference between an atheist and someone who just doesn't believe in religion. Religion to me is a bureaucracy between man and God that I don't need. But I'm not an atheist, no."