Bill Maher making fun of republicans - Page 6

Scrum · 09-02-2006, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

What has he done that's made him any sort of money or given him any form of credibility in comedy over the past 15 years?

The only way he makes money is by telling liberals what they want to hear. He's not funny, he's not even a good actor. I'd say he's failed as a comedian. Now he's a political talk show host and horrible book writer.

He still does stand-up that's released on DVD and draws sold out crowds.

Maybe your definition of "failed" is different than mine?

JaJae · 09-02-2006, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent

He still does stand-up that's released on DVD and draws sold out crowds.

Maybe your definition of "failed" is different than mine?

All comedians draw sold out crowds. I've never been to a comedy show that wasn't sold out. They want the crowds full so people laugh. They choose the venue to be capable of holding their sold out crowd. There's a reason comedians go to small theaters for their shows.

Amateur night at comedy shows sell out dude... Doesn't mean they're good.

Scrum · 09-02-2006, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

All comedians draw sold out crowds. I've never been to a comedy show that wasn't sold out. They want the crowds full so people laugh. They choose the venue to be capable of holding their sold out crowd. There's a reason comedians go to small theaters for their shows.

So then what evidence do you have that he has failed?

Scrum · 09-02-2006, 10:32 PM

I just took a peek at some of the places he's playing.

This month he is playing at a tiny little place called Heinz Field in Pittsburgh.

That guy has so failed.

IminWonderland · 09-02-2006, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

All comedians draw sold out crowds. I've never been to a comedy show that wasn't sold out. They want the crowds full so people laugh. They choose the venue to be capable of holding their sold out crowd. There's a reason comedians go to small theaters for their shows.

Amateur night at comedy shows sell out dude... Doesn't mean they're good.

Actually, comedians use smaller venues, because part of watching a comedian, is seeing facial expression. MOST comics have a large part of the context having to do with their facial expressions, so they use venues so most people can see it, or they use giant TV's to show it, although even then, the venues need to be more intimate.

It's not really for sell out purposes.

JaJae · 09-02-2006, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent

I just took a peek at some of the places he's playing.

This month he is playing at a tiny little place called Heinz Field in Pittsburgh.

That guy has so failed.

This month...
He's going to be doing politics. As a comedian he has failed. He's like Bob Saget (who also sells out, btw). Nobody gives a shit about his comedy, he really isn't all that funny. He just makes a living doing politics and trying to be witty while telling people what they want to hear.

KatKanPlay · 09-02-2006, 11:19 PM

I had no clue there was so much passion for Bill Maher. This has been a very busy thread today.

SpicyMcVoodoo · 09-03-2006, 12:30 AM

Originally Posted by JaJae

He just makes a living doing politics and trying to be witty while telling people what they want to hear.

He does a show for amazon.com where he interviews celebrities. It has nothing to do with politics.

Amazon.com Entertainment: Amazon Fishbowl with Bill Maher

Why the hate? Say what you want about Maher, but he's the farthest thing from a failure.

JaJae · 09-03-2006, 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo

He does a show for amazon.com where he interviews celebrities. It has nothing to do with politics.

Amazon.com Entertainment: Amazon Fishbowl with Bill Maher

Why the hate? Say what you want about Maher, but he's the farthest thing from a failure.

Yea but that wasn't funny. I didn't laugh. It didn't really have comedic value. He was just a host interviewing her. He wasn't a comic in that clip by any stretch of the word.

I'm not saying he's a failure at showbiz. He's obviously not. But he started out as a comic. And I feel he failed at that... miserably. He's a washed up comic who is holding on to stardom by having a political talk show.

SpicyMcVoodoo · 09-03-2006, 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Yea but that wasn't funny. I didn't laugh. It didn't really have comedic value. He was just a host interviewing her. He wasn't a comic in that clip by any stretch of the word.

I'm not saying he's a failure at showbiz. He's obviously not. But he started out as a comic. And I feel he failed at that... miserably. He's a washed up comic who is holding on to stardom by having a political talk show.

Of course you don't think it's funny. You obviously don't like him or enjoy his style of humor. I thought his interview questions and comments were funny, and so do millions of other people, which is why he's famous and has his face in all sorts of media. I don't think some comedians are funny, but I realize that's my subjective opinion. I don't try to make an argument they're not comedians like you're doing.

You said he's a failure and now can only make a living doing politics. I just showed you something he did which has nothing to do with politics. It's asinine to even say he's a washed up comic when he's doing national comic tours and has numerous HBO comedy specials. I mean, by most people's standards, if you have nothing else but an HBO comedy special, that's the peak of success as a comic.

It's ridiculous that because you don't agree with the guy, you're trying to pick apart his immensely succesful career and twist it into a failure. It's customary to wait until celebrities have disappeared from the public eye to call them washed up failures...you don't usually say then while they're doing 11tybillion projects, all over TV and making millions.

I don't even care about Bill Maher or defending his career, but rebutting your argument here is irresistable because it's so beyond reality.

IminWonderland · 09-03-2006, 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Yea but that wasn't funny. I didn't laugh. It didn't really have comedic value. He was just a host interviewing her. He wasn't a comic in that clip by any stretch of the word.

I'm not saying he's a failure at showbiz. He's obviously not. But he started out as a comic. And I feel he failed at that... miserably. He's a washed up comic who is holding on to stardom by having a political talk show.

I don't think he's funny all the time. But, there are popular comics out there, and I don't think they are funny at all.

Letterman.
Leno.
Dane Cook.
Woody Allen.
Rodney Dangerfield.
And I personally despise Denis Leary.

I suppose you could say the same thing about his career. He started out in stand up, and now he's a flippin fireman on cable? I could call him a failure by your standards. But I won't.

archangel003 · 09-03-2006, 05:52 AM

Bill Maher is fucking hilarious. It isn't the left's fault you don't have a sense of humor.

Scrum · 09-03-2006, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by JaJae

This month...
He's going to be doing politics. As a comedian he has failed. He's like Bob Saget (who also sells out, btw). Nobody gives a shit about his comedy, he really isn't all that funny. He just makes a living doing politics and trying to be witty while telling people what they want to hear.

Saget is funny as hell, I just saw him last month at the Improv. You don't know shit about that so I would drop it.

I suppose you would call someone like Carlin or Pryor failed if you didn't think they were funny.

JaJae · 09-03-2006, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by IminWonderland

I don't think he's funny all the time. But, there are popular comics out there, and I don't think they are funny at all.

Letterman.
Leno.
Dane Cook.
Woody Allen.
Rodney Dangerfield.
And I personally despise Denis Leary.

I suppose you could say the same thing about his career. He started out in stand up, and now he's a flippin fireman on cable? I could call him a failure by your standards. But I won't.

All of those people are comedians who are funny on the fly. I dunno, Maher has never been funny on the fly to me. He started out as a comedian and he failed. He was then given a political talk show where the only thing funny on his show is written by his producers during his skits.

Scrum · 09-03-2006, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by JaJae

He was then given a political talk show where the only thing funny on his show is written by his producers during his skits.

He's also a writer and a producer on his show.

KatKanPlay · 09-03-2006, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

All of those people are comedians who are funny on the fly. I dunno, Maher has never been funny on the fly to me. He started out as a comedian and he failed. He was then given a political talk show where the only thing funny on his show is written by his producers during his skits.

I dont think Bill Maher cares as much about getting laughs as he does about being compelling and thought provoking. His comedic act simply opened the doors for his true passion and thats "discussion" of politics and current situations. If he can get a giggle from time to time that is fine, but his real passion is the debate.

Very similar to those addicted to this website...... the debate.

Oh did I say addicted, is that the same as acknowledging I have a problem??

IminWonderland · 09-03-2006, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by KatKanPlay

I dont think Bill Maher cares as much about getting laughs as he does about being compelling and thought provoking. His comedic act simply opened the doors for his true passion and thats "discussion" of politics and current situations. If he can get a giggle from time to time that is fine, but his real passion is the debate.

Very similar to those addicted to this website...... the debate.

Oh did I say addicted, is that the same as acknowledging I have a problem??

I think you make a good point, because I have watched many of his stand-up specials. He's not up there doing one liners, or trying to get laughs. He's trying to have a one sided discussion, and the points that he makes are humerous. I think part of the reason why they are humerous, is because some of the things that have been in the news for the past 5 years, since he got fired from ABC, have been so ridiculous. He's got alot of subject matter to work from.

Jajae...funny is relative. And "how" a person is funny, is relative. If you don't enjoy his humor, fine. But he's not a failure in his career.

JaJae · 09-03-2006, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by IminWonderland

I think you make a good point, because I have watched many of his stand-up specials. He's not up there doing one liners, or trying to get laughs. He's trying to have a one sided discussion, and the points that he makes are humerous. I think part of the reason why they are humerous, is because some of the things that have been in the news for the past 5 years, since he got fired from ABC, have been so ridiculous. He's got alot of subject matter to work from.

Jajae...funny is relative. And "how" a person is funny, is relative. If you don't enjoy his humor, fine. But he's not a failure in his career.

I never said he's a failure in his career. He didn't start off as being a political satirist. He started off doing straight comedy and tv shows, just like Bob Saget. Once he failed at that (Saget is still going strong) he worked his way into politics.

Politics is where he's found his niche and is doing extremely well. But that doesn't change the fact that initially he failed at what he set out to do.

If Bob Saget were given a sucessful late night political show I'd be saying the same thing. He's a washed up comedian who is only still famous because he tells people things they want to hear in regards to politics.

I don't have a problem with Maher's show, in fact I watched him last night. He had Penn from Penn & Teller on and it was a good show. I had some laughs. But to consider him a "comedian" at this point to me just doesn't fit the bill. Especially when you put it into perspective of what he started out as.

IminWonderland · 09-03-2006, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

I never said he's a failure in his career. He didn't start off as being a political satirist. He started off doing straight comedy and tv shows, just like Bob Saget. Once he failed at that (Saget is still going strong) he worked his way into politics.

Politics is where he's found his niche and is doing extremely well. But that doesn't change the fact that initially he failed at what he set out to do.

If Bob Saget were given a sucessful late night political show I'd be saying the same thing. He's a washed up comedian who is only still famous because he tells people things they want to hear in regards to politics.

I don't have a problem with Maher's show, in fact I watched him last night. He had Penn from Penn & Teller on and it was a good show. I had some laughs. But to consider him a "comedian" at this point to me just doesn't fit the bill. Especially when you put it into perspective of what he started out as.

You started posting in this thread attacking his career. You're backtracking now.

Good at one thing, or good at another, success is success.

JaJae · 09-03-2006, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by IminWonderland

You started posting in this thread attacking his career. You're backtracking now.

Good at one thing, or good at another, success is success.

I never once said he wasn't a successful political talk show host. I said he's a washed up comedian who is only still famous because of his political show.

I don't see any backtracking..