What is considered "rich" foods? (not speaking of dollars)

thomez · 11-15-2007, 08:42 PM

I'm taking a girl to dinner tomorrow night but she can't have "rich" foods because of a diet she is on (due to stomach/digestive problems).... what does that mean exactly?

Also, what is the opposite of "rich" foods... bitter foods? I couldn't even find it on the intrawebnets because I have no idea what to try and find other than "rich" which gets me expensive...

Help please, I wanna know what she can safely eat

Ardentfrost · 11-15-2007, 08:48 PM

It means foods loaded up with butter, sugar, eggs... but because it has those things doesn't make it rich either. I usually associate it with something like a peanut butter cheese cake that is really thick and sweet.

She could also, however, be meaning foods loaded up with carbs such as pastas.

To play it safe, I'd stay away from Italian and anywhere that touts their desserts as their principle items. Go for a steak house.

DosEquis · 11-15-2007, 09:36 PM

I would try the Cheesecake factory

thomez · 11-15-2007, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by DosEquis

I would try the Cheesecake factory

WickedLou9 · 11-15-2007, 10:43 PM

Stick to veggies, fish, rice, etc. Light stuff. No cheesy creamy sauces. No red meat. NO good food. Just light chick stuff. tofu and styrofoam. you know.

Ardentfrost · 11-15-2007, 11:01 PM

I wouldn't do rice. It's loaded up with carbs and sugars like pectin, amyleopectin, and amyleose [sic]

7960 · 11-16-2007, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by thomez

I'm taking a girl to dinner .....(stomach/digestive problems).... what does that mean exactly?

Haven't even gone on the first date and she's telling you about her digestive problems and making demands on the restaurant.

Run away!!

Also, what is the opposite of "rich" foods... bitter foods?

"lite" or what I'd call "bland"

Help please, I wanna know what she can safely eat

She can't have most italian food (unless it's just pasta but that's not italian that's just pasta), nothing with creams or a lot of sauces or butter, avoid places that cook with nuts (polynesian), no chinese but interestingly she would probably enjoy japanese.

Bring her somewhere that's known for a good salad, maybe chicken or steak salad. Or somewhere she can get good fish or chicken.

Linzyhop · 11-16-2007, 09:49 AM

she might have IBS. it's a syndrome a lot of women have actually, myself included. basically you can't eat certain foods because your stomach can't digest the foods properly. meaning like if i eat salad without anything in my stomach, I will get horrible stomach pains for the rest of the day. also if I eat cake or red meat and don't chew it very very well, same deal.

most girls don't like to say outright they have IBS because it sounds icky, but Irritable Bowel Syndrome is just when your stomach and intestines can't break the food down well enough and you constantly have stomach pains.

it kinda sucks but the best way to fight it naturally is drinking lots and lots of water and chewing your food extra extra well.

7960 · 11-16-2007, 10:01 AM

^

I AM NOT SAYING YOU DON'T HAVE IBS!
I AM NOT SAYING THIS GIRL'S PROBLEM ISN'T REAL!

But most people who think they have irritable bowel syndrome don't. A food might not agree with them, it might cause gas, they might have an allergy to an ingredient.......but IBS is the new "lactose intolerant." When that one got a name all the sudden everybody was lactose intolerant or had a "sensitivity." Same for "acid reflux" or hiatal hernia. Or same for gluten intolerance and/or "processed grain"......as soon as doctors name it there are people ready to pile on and an industry springs up overnight to supply the new market.

Linzyhop · 11-16-2007, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by 7960

^

I AM NOT SAYING YOU DON'T HAVE IBS!
I AM NOT SAYING THIS GIRL'S PROBLEM ISN'T REAL!

But most people who think they have irritable bowel syndrome don't. A food might not agree with them, it might cause gas, they might have an allergy to an ingredient.......but IBS is the new "lactose intolerant." When that one got a name all the sudden everybody was lactose intolerant or had a "sensitivity." Same for "acid reflux" or hiatal hernia. Or same for gluten intolerance and/or "processed grain"......as soon as doctors name it there are people ready to pile on and an industry springs up overnight to supply the new market.

actually I do have IBS, and I am not lactose intolerant. I go to a gastroentonologist and have had a colonoscopy and it's been confirmed. there isn't anything you can actually do for IBS other than eating right and drinking lots of water to help digest better, so there really isn't a "market" per say.

7960 · 11-16-2007, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by Linzyhop

actually I do have IBS,

I did not say otherwise.

and I am not lactose intolerant. I go to a gastroentonologist and have had a colonoscopy and it's been confirmed. there isn't anything you can actually do for IBS other than eating right and drinking lots of water to help digest better, so there really isn't a "market" per say.

There are IBS diets, IBS books, IBS cookbooks, IBS vitamins/medicines/herbal remedies, IBS-specific foods, IBS software for tracking diet/attacks, IBS websites for sufferers (supported by advertising)

..............there's a market.

Linzyhop · 11-16-2007, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by 7960

I did not say otherwise.

There are IBS diets, IBS books, IBS cookbooks, IBS vitamins/medicines/herbal remedies, IBS-specific foods, IBS software for tracking diet/attacks, IBS websites for sufferers (supported by advertising)

..............there's a market.

i meant medication. you said doctors hop all over it. there aren't medications for it.

7960 · 11-16-2007, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Linzyhop

i meant medication. you said doctors hop all over it. there aren't medications for it.

I did not say doctors hop all over it. I said as soon as doctors name it then people pile on and an industry springs up overnight to supply the new market. That's books, diets, pills, "cures," therapies, herbal shit..........all of it.

As a wise person once said, read the post the first time and stop putting words in my mouth.

Donkey® · 11-16-2007, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by thomez

I'm taking a girl to dinner tomorrow night but she can't have "rich" foods because of a diet she is on (due to stomach/digestive problems).... what does that mean exactly?

Also, what is the opposite of "rich" foods... bitter foods? I couldn't even find it on the intrawebnets because I have no idea what to try and find other than "rich" which gets me expensive...

Help please, I wanna know what she can safely eat

I think noodz of said chick would helps us in our decision making.

Ardentfrost · 11-16-2007, 01:07 PM

This thread devolved into talking about pooping, and you bring up noodz. I hope you JUST read the first post when you replied

Linzyhop · 11-16-2007, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

This thread devolved into talking about pooping, and you bring up noodz. I hope you JUST read the first post when you replied

we weren't "talking" about pooping. we were talking about ouchies in our stomachs.

Ardentfrost · 11-16-2007, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by Linzyhop

we were talking about pooping

fixed

Linzyhop · 11-16-2007, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

fixed

just cause you took stomach aches and followed through to the inevitable exit strategy, doesn't mean we were talking about pooping.

if you want to talk about pooping, by all means, start a discussion. I will regal you with tales of kerneled, razor-bladed and tri-colored poops for many a day laddie.

Ardentfrost · 11-16-2007, 02:00 PM

poop

thomez · 11-16-2007, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by Linzyhop

she might have IBS. it's a syndrome a lot of women have actually, myself included.

actually she has a problem that involves ulcer like sores in her intestines... she was just in the ER on Weds

dinner went well, hopefully there will be another one soon