KU vs MU

ArrestMeRedZ28 · 11-24-2007, 09:29 PM

ku ftl... does that mean ou gets to whoop up on some tigers? trey?

thomez · 11-24-2007, 11:56 PM

OU beats Mizzou ... OSU gets to play WVU in the national championship game?

thomez · 11-25-2007, 12:19 AM

I will now declare myself the 2nd biggest Oklahoma fan on this site

DosEquis · 11-25-2007, 01:21 AM

OU will beat missouri...again...

nbiggershaft · 11-25-2007, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by DosEquis

OU will beat missouri...again...

says the guy who said MU was a shitty team a few months ago

6SpeedTA95 · 11-25-2007, 06:29 PM

Mizzou is playing great football, all I can say is if they beat us they better beat the shit out of the west virginia mountaineers

nbiggershaft · 11-25-2007, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95

Mizzou is playing great football, all I can say is if they beat us they better beat the shit out of the west virginia mountaineers

Maybe if somebody hadn't lost to T-Tech you could be doing it.

DosEquis · 11-26-2007, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by nbiggershaft

says the guy who said MU was a shitty team a few months ago

They are overrated. So is/was Kansas. MU's schedule was mediocre at best, but KU's schedule was insanely easy. MU had two worthy opponents this year. With Illinois they squeaked by with a win, because it was that young team's first game of the year. If they played again Illinois would beat them. They later lost to OU. They are playing as well as they possibly can with their talent base and the coaches deserve credit for that. I would rank Missouri about 9-12th and Kansas about 14-17th.

9-3 Illiniois
3-9 Ole Miss
5-7 Western Michigan
4-6 (1-AA) Illinois State
5-7 Nebraska
10-2 Oklahoma
8-4 Tex Tech
3-9 Iowa State
6-6 Colorado
7-5 Tex A&M
5-7 Kansas State
11-1 Kansas

Kansas was WAY over rated and never really tested until Missouri. Check out their jewel of a schedule. Any mediocre opponent they faced they barely snuck it out. If they made it past missouri and OU, i'd give them a fighting chance in a BCS game. They didn't and won't face OU now because of it.

Ridiculous non-conference schedule.

Sep. 1 Central Michigan W 52-7 - 7-5 MAC team
Sep. 8 SE Lousiana W 62-0 - 3-8 1-AA team
Sep. 15 Toledo W 45-13 - 5-7 MAC team
Sep. 22 Florida Int'l W 55-3 - 0-11 winless

Oct. 6 at Kansas State W 30-24 - 5-7 ksu team
Oct. 13 Baylor W 58-10 - 3-9 baylor..wins against Rice, Texas State, Buffalo
Oct. 20 at Colorado W 19-14 - 6-6 colorado team
Oct. 27 at Texas A&M W 19-11 - 7-5 ta/m team
Nov. 3 Nebraska W 76-39 - a terrible 5-7 NU
Nov. 10 at OK State W 43-28 - 6-6 weak osu team
Nov. 17 Iowa State W 45-7 - 3-9 terrible isu
Nov. 24 Missouri L 28-36

The combined record of those teams they have beaten is 50-80. With Missouri factored in, it is still 61-81.

nbiggershaft · 11-26-2007, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by DosEquis

They are overrated. So is/was Kansas. MU's schedule was mediocre at best, but KU's schedule was insanely easy. MU had two worthy opponents this year. With Illinois they squeaked by with a win, because it was that young team's first game of the year. If they played again Illinois would beat them. They later lost to OU. They are playing as well as they possibly can with their talent base and the coaches deserve credit for that. I would rank Missouri about 9-12th and Kansas about 14-17th.

9-3 Illiniois
3-9 Ole Miss
5-7 Western Michigan
4-6 (1-AA) Illinois State
5-7 Nebraska
10-2 Oklahoma
8-4 Tex Tech
3-9 Iowa State
6-6 Colorado
7-5 Tex A&M
5-7 Kansas State
11-1 Kansas

Kansas was WAY over rated and never really tested until Missouri. Check out their jewel of a schedule. Any mediocre opponent they faced they barely snuck it out. If they made it past missouri and OU, i'd give them a fighting chance in a BCS game. They didn't and won't face OU now because of it.

Ridiculous non-conference schedule.

Sep. 1 Central Michigan W 52-7 - 7-5 MAC team
Sep. 8 SE Lousiana W 62-0 - 3-8 1-AA team
Sep. 15 Toledo W 45-13 - 5-7 MAC team
Sep. 22 Florida Int'l W 55-3 - 0-11 winless

Oct. 6 at Kansas State W 30-24 - 5-7 ksu team
Oct. 13 Baylor W 58-10 - 3-9 baylor..wins against Rice, Texas State, Buffalo
Oct. 20 at Colorado W 19-14 - 6-6 colorado team
Oct. 27 at Texas A&M W 19-11 - 7-5 ta/m team
Nov. 3 Nebraska W 76-39 - a terrible 5-7 NU
Nov. 10 at OK State W 43-28 - 6-6 weak osu team
Nov. 17 Iowa State W 45-7 - 3-9 terrible isu
Nov. 24 Missouri L 28-36

The combined record of those teams they have beaten is 50-80. With Missouri factored in, it is still 61-81.

pfft

. holy bias batman, show me a single team with a better record, factor in strength of schedule all you want

DosEquis · 11-26-2007, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by nbiggershaft

pfft . holy bias batman, show me a single team with a better record, factor in strength of schedule all you want

Hawaii? They are probably a notch under missouri in talent level, but with a number 10 ranking...at a more reasonable position in the polls than missouri or kansas...and they are undefeated. They can walk all over the Mcneese States all they want...it doesn't make them a great football team worth of top 5 rankings.

David Octavius · 11-26-2007, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by DosEquis

Hawaii?

In the WAC? Come on buddy even I - as a Northeasterner who knows shit about college football - know your reaching with that one

nbiggershaft · 11-26-2007, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by DosEquis

Hawaii? They are probably a notch under missouri in talent level, but with a number 10 ranking...at a more reasonable position in the polls than missouri or kansas...and they are undefeated. They can walk all over the Mcneese States all they want...it doesn't make them a great football team worth of top 5 rankings.

i didn't say, whats a team with a worse record because of SOS I said show me one with a better record

DosEquis · 11-26-2007, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by nbiggershaft

i didn't say, whats a team with a worse record because of SOS I said show me one with a better record

Show you a team with a better record, that also has a stronger schedule? A 10-2 LSU or 11-1 Ohio State is a better team than an 11-1 Missouri or 11-1 Kansas. A 10-2 Oklahoma would beat Missouri (again) or Kansas for that matter.

A 10-2 LSU record is better than an 11-1 Kansas record.

thomez · 11-26-2007, 07:10 PM

OSU might get fucked only because they lost later than WVU... even though they have better wins.... and lost to a good team. It's dumb.

David Octavius · 11-26-2007, 07:47 PM

So what do you fellas think of a playoff system with the top say 6 teams with the 1st and 2nd seed getting a bye? So number 3 vs 6 and 4 vs 5 on neutral ground and number 1 and 2 get to play on their home turf and the final game played at the higher seed home turf or at a neutral site? I think that would be exciting.

thomez · 11-26-2007, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by David Octavius

So what do you fellas think of a playoff system with the top say 6 teams with the 1st and 2nd seed getting a bye? So number 3 vs 6 and 4 vs 5 on neutral ground and number 1 and 2 get to play on their home turf and the final game played at the higher seed home turf or at a neutral site? I think that would be exciting.

I think it will never happen

nbiggershaft · 11-26-2007, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by DosEquis

Show you a team with a better record, that also has a stronger schedule? A 10-2 LSU or 11-1 Ohio State is a better team than an 11-1 Missouri or 11-1 Kansas. A 10-2 Oklahoma would beat Missouri (again) or Kansas for that matter.

A 10-2 LSU record is better than an 11-1 Kansas record.

LSU

August 30at Mississippi State W 45-01-0 (1-0)

September 8No. 9 Virginia Tech W 48-72-0 (1-0)

September 15Middle Tennessee W 44-03-0 (1-0)

September 22No. 12 South Carolina W 28-164-0 (2-0)CBSSeptember 29at Tulane W 34-95-0 (2-0)

October 6No. 9 Florida W 28-246-0 (3-0)CBSOctober 13at No. 17 Kentucky L 43-376-1 (3-1)CBSOctober 20No. 17 Auburn W 30-247-1 (4-1)

November 3at No. 17 Alabama W 41-348-1 (5-1)CBSNovember 10Louisiana Tech W 58-109-1 (5-1)

November 17at Mississippi W 41-2410-1 (6-1)CBSNovember 23Arkansas L 50-4810-2 (6-2)CBS

Wins to number 9 number 12 and number 17. Losses to number 17 and unranked

Ohio State

eptember 1Youngstown State W 38-61-0 (0-0)Big Ten Network September 8Akron W 20-22-0 (0-0)Big Ten Network September 15at Washington W 33-143-0 (0-0)

September 22Northwestern W 58-74-0 (1-0)

September 29at Minnesota W 30-75-0 (2-0)

October 6at No. 23 Purdue W 23-76-0 (3-0)

October 13Kent State W 48-37-0 (3-0)Big Ten Network October 20Michigan State W 24-178-0 (4-0)

October 27at No. 25 Penn State W 37-179-0 (5-0)

November 3No. 21 Wisconsin W 38-1710-0 (6-0)Big Ten Network November 10Illinois L 28-2110-1 (6-1)

November 17at No. 21 Michigan W 14-311-1 (7-1)

Wins against 23,25,21,21 loss to unranked

Oklahoma

September 1North Texas W 79-101-0 (0-0)
September 8Miami (FL) W 51-132-0 (0-0)

September 15Utah State W 54-33-0 (0-0)
September 21at Tulsa W 62-214-0 (0-0)

September 29at Colorado L 27-244-1 (0-1)
October 6at No. 19 Texas W 28-215-1 (1-1)

October 13No. 11 Missouri W 41-316-1 (2-1)
October 20at Iowa State W 17-77-1 (3-1)
November 3Texas A&M W 42-148-1 (4-1)

November 10Baylor W 52-219-1 (5-1)
November 17at Texas Tech L 34-279-2 (5-2)

November 24Oklahoma State W 49-1710-2 (6-2)

wins to 19, 11, losses to two unranked

at Illinois