Bin Laden's last message to Europeans, What does HE want ?

[zardook2007]

What Does he want from us?

“It was very quiet there. At night sometimes the roll of drums behind the curtain of trees would run up the river and remain sustained faintly, as if hovering in the air high over our heads, till the first break of day. Whether it meant war, peace, or prayer we could not tell” Joseph Conrad’s Heart of Darkness.

For sure you have heard of a message from Ossama Bin Laden to Europeans. It’s not the first message and the it’s not the last as it appears. Have you ever listened to a full message of his?
Of course no! the media always cut it short and give you what suits the aims of Murdoch and his gang.
The following is the full message of OBL and is one of his shortest to Europeans. As a European, you’re for sure concerned with his message, since he represents a danger to your nation and since your leaders are leading a war against Afghanistan.

Read and see what he wants from European peoples.!

translated message:

Message From OBL To The European Peoples

All praise is for Allah Who didn't create the Creation for nothing, and didn't leave them in vain, but rather, created them to worship Him, and intelligent people obey Him and miserable ones disobey Him.
As for what comes after:
This message of mine is to the peoples of the states allied to America in the invasion of Afghanistan, and I mention specifically Europe.

Peace be on those who follow the guidance:
It isn't hidden from you that the Afghans have tasted the two bitterest things for two decades at the hands of the Russians and their Communist agents, but they persevered, fought and were resolute and victorious, by the Grace of Allah.
And before their wounds were healed and their grief ended, they were unjustly invaded by your unjust governments, without stopping to think about or reflect on Bush's claim that this invasion was a response to the events of the 11th, although -as I mentioned previously- the events of Manhattan were a response to the American-Israeli coalition's murder of our people in Palestine and Lebanon. And it was I who was responsible for 9/11, and I stress that all Afghans -both government and people- had no knowledge of those events, and America knows that, because some of the Taliban's ministers fell into its hands as captives, and they were interrogated and that became known. And that's why the Taliban government requested America to produce the evidence for the truth of its claims prior to the invasion, but it didn't produce any evidence, and instead insisted on invading; and Europe marched behind it in that, and had no choice but to be its vassal.
It suffices as evidence of this your entering of this war and your excusing of American soldiers from being held to account by the European courts.
For this reason, this address of mine is to you, not to your politicians, as it is no longer a secret that Blair, Brown, Berlusconi, Aznar, Sarkozy and those with him and their like love to shade themselves in the shade of the White House. And there isn't a major difference worth mentioning between them and many of the leaders of the Third World.

So to summarize, in this war you have combined two injustices:
The first is that this war was waged against the Afghans unjustly. You didn't have even one piece of evidence suitable for submission to a court. Additionally, you destroyed the camps of al-Qaida and killed some of its members, and you captured others, most of who were from Pakistan. So what is the sin of the Afghans due to which you are continuing this unjust war against them? Their only sin is that they are Muslims, and this illustrates the extent of the Crusaders' hatred of Islam and its people.

Second, in this war, you did not respect the ethics and protocol of warfare. Most of your victims -as a result of the bombing- are women and children, and intentionally so. You know that our women don't fight, yet you target them even on days of celebration, knowingly and admittadly, hoping by that to break the morale of the Mujahideen. This will not benefit you, however, for we are resolute and , by the grace of Allah, the Glorious and Great, continuing to take revenge on the unjust and expel the occupying invaders, I have personally witnessed incidents like these, and the matter continues on an almost daily basis, and the hospitals are full of innocent people. You have no religion, morals, humanity or shame. And for your information, the Afghan people are a courageous, defiant, jealous, honorable, religious Muslim people who refuse humiliation and submission to invaders. And their history is rich in resolve and victories. They fought Britain in its glorious days and defeated it by the grace of Allah, and fought the Russians in their glorious days as well and defeated them by the grace of Allah.

And today, they are fighting America and its agents under the leadership of the Commander of the Believers, Mulla Umar, may Allah protect him, and under the command of the Knight of the Field, Hajji Mansoor Dadullah. I sak Allah, the Most Hight, to grant them victory and resolve.
In conclusion, I remind you that the American tide is ebbing, by the grace of Allah, and that they shall soon depart for their homeland beyond the Atlantic and leave the neighbors to settle their accounts with each other. So it is better for you to restrain your politicians who are thronging the steps of the White House and work dilligently to remove oppression from the oppressed, for justice is right and injustice is torment, and returning to the truth is the hallmark of men of understanding.

And peace be on those who follow the guidance.

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Watch it from YouTube

YouTube - Bin Laden's last message to Europeans

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Or download translated video from these unabridged links

Arabic - English (any of these links)





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[motivez]

Since there's only a youtube link in this thread I figured I'd approve it for discussion, especially since we aren't in the habit of censoring opinions.

[Donkey®]

Hmmmm, well, I agree with parts of this...others I don't. Afghanistan was invaded because the Taliban was allowing Al Q refuge. (then why wasn't Pakistan next?) As far as bombing women and children...yep, it happens then is called "accidental" like it matters.

[Stylerod]

You don't actually expect him to get in a discussion with this post, do you? He's a hit and run poster. Or a Bot.

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[7960]

Originally Posted by zardook2007

Have you ever listened to a full message of his?
Of course no! the media always cut it short and give you what suits the aims of Murdoch and his gang.
The following is the full message of OBL and is one of his shortest to Europeans.

You say our media only let us hear the part they wanted us to hear and that the youtube link tells us the full message. So, which part of that did they let us hear? Show me a story where part of that message was reported but the rest was left off. Link me to the news article that edited that speech, allowing us only to hear the part they wanted us to hear.

Or even easier, show me where it's been verified that is actually OBL and not some jackass camel jockey reading into a tape recorder.

Until any of those questions are answered and/or points are addressed I'll believe this is a hoax.

[DosEquis]

I could really give two shits what OBL has to say at this point. He lost any credibility when he organized the attack on our country. Before that I may have been more sympathetic to his cause. It is reasonable to want a foreign country to remove their military forces from your native country of Saudi Arabia. It can be considered reasonable (not by me but by some) to want this done because it is considered holy land and we primarily don't worship their version of god.

[nbiggershaft]

Originally Posted by 7960

You say our media only let us hear the part they wanted us to hear and that the youtube link tells us the full message. So, which part of that did they let us hear? Show me a story where part of that message was reported but the rest was left off. Link me to the news article that edited that speech, allowing us only to hear the part they wanted us to hear.

Or even easier, show me where it's been verified that is actually OBL and not some jackass camel jockey reading into a tape recorder.

Until any of those questions are answered and/or points are addressed I'll believe this is a hoax.

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To be honest it doesn't even sound like him from the transcript.

[RMNIXON]

Originally Posted by nbiggershaft

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To be honest it doesn't even sound like him from the transcript.

Perhaps he is trying to be more and more diplomatic because Al Qaeda are getting their ass kicked since 9/11. That is why his statements have more of a Western style and less "Jihad" for the Glory of "Allah" stuff.