Ron Paul on The View today (12/4) at 11 AM EST

Ardentfrost · 12-04-2007, 11:09 AM

I just read some link that said Ron Paul will be on The View today? I don't see it mentioned on their site, can anyone confirm this?

Ardentfrost · 12-04-2007, 11:10 AM

Scratch that, their site confused me. I do see it mentioned on their site.

Wow, that should do well at getting him seen by a demographic that has never heard of him before.

David Octavius · 12-04-2007, 11:55 AM

On the view after being on Leno and the Colbert report...Damn that media blackout! amiright Hsmith?

Dumpy Dooby · 12-04-2007, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by David Octavius

On the view after being on Leno and the Colbert report...Damn that media blackout! amiright Hsmith?

I would guess that he's spending his campaign money. That's how he's getting on these shows.

Ardentfrost · 12-04-2007, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by Dumpy Dooby

I would guess that he's spending his campaign money. That's how he's getting on these shows.

You think so? I thought these shows invited people they wanted or that they thought would be good after them asking to be on the show. I'd be interested to know if he actually spent money to get on them.

I mean, he's been on Bill Maher and The Daily Show and the Colbert Report, all of which are head by fairly liberal pundits but praised his positions all the same. RP especially seems like a good-fit guest for the 2 Comedy Central shows (you know, someone in politics or who wrote a book that makes sense but is marginalized by politicians)

Dumpy Dooby · 12-04-2007, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

You think so? I thought these shows invited people they wanted or that they thought would be good after them asking to be on the show. I'd be interested to know if he actually spent money to get on them.

I mean, he's been on Bill Maher and The Daily Show and the Colbert Report, all of which are head by fairly liberal pundits but praised his positions all the same. RP especially seems like a good-fit guest for the 2 Comedy Central shows (you know, someone in politics or who wrote a book that makes sense but is marginalized by politicians)

Perhaps he's just citing the size of his wallet while not actually giving any money to them. Just a little, "y'know...... i have more money than mccain now." *nudge nudge*

lew · 12-04-2007, 02:42 PM

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lew · 12-04-2007, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by David Octavius

On the view after being on Leno and the Colbert report...Damn that media blackout! amiright Hsmith?

Wow, he's been on a few programs. WOW!

Meanwhile, compare that to the so called "Top Tier" who get their names mentioned dozens of times daily on news shows.

Fed Up · 12-04-2007, 02:45 PM

Watched the show...

All that Joy Blowhard and Wookie Goldberg tried to do was press him on the abortion issue and he handled it well...

They spoke a little about Immigration and China and that's about it.

I actually wrote Paul's campaign a month or so ago about The View hosts complaining about no Presidential candidates would appear on their show. I thought, that since they actually do have a viewing audience, that this would be a "free" way for Paul to get airtime and exposure.

(I'm not saying I'm the reason..but I'm glad he did the show - there were no Paulites in the audience - unlike The Tonight Show)

Fed Up

David Octavius · 12-04-2007, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by lew

Wow, he's been on a few programs. WOW!

Meanwhile, compare that to the so called "Top Tier" who get their names mentioned dozens of times daily on news shows.

Lew, you can't expect him to get the same billing as Mr. 911, Mrs Bill Clinton, Mr. $400 haircut and Mr POW. His PR and spin is not as good as theirs hence he gets little exposure compared to them but get a lot more than the rest of the candidates. He is an honest, humble guy, not an attention, pandering whore that the media knows will get ratings - it does def suck

Linzyhop · 12-04-2007, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by David Octavius

Lew, you can't expect him to get the same billing as Mr. 911, Mrs Bill Clinton, Mr. $400 haircut and Mr POW. His PR and spin is not as good as theirs hence he gets little exposure compared to them but get a lot more than the rest of the candidates. He is an honest, humble guy, not an attention, pandering whore that the media knows will get ratings - it does def suck

Mr POW is at least respectable in that he was a POW! and frankly i don't see him going around basing his run on that fact. I know it's brought up, but I haven't heard him once talk about that in reference to having qualifications to be president.

David Octavius · 12-04-2007, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Linzyhop

Mr POW is at least respectable in that he was a POW! and frankly i don't see him going around basing his run on that fact. I know it's brought up, but I haven't heard him once talk about that in reference to having qualifications to be president.

What I meant was his PR machine and is BS he has been saying lately. I just call him Mr POW because a lot of people identify him with that, just like Mr. $400 haircut. I don't think Edwards getting a 400 haircut should matter at all but the media seems to love it and its what gives him more visibility then a RP.

And for what its worth, had Mccain won the 2000 primaries (which he should of) I would of voted for him as President, I have a lot of respect for the man as a solider and as a politician up to that point, now he just seems like just another neo-con

Scrum · 12-04-2007, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by David Octavius

And for what its worth, had Mccain won the 2000 primaries (which he should of) I would of voted for him as President, I have a lot of respect for the man as a solider and as a politician up to that point, now he just seems like just another neo-con

I liked him pretty well before, but it's crap like this that shows what a flip-flopper and opportunist he is.

Linzyhop · 12-04-2007, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Scrum

I liked him pretty well before, but it's crap like this that shows what a flip-flopper and opportunist he is.

why because he changed his mind about someone after 7 years??? are you kidding me? you mean to tell me you've never met someone, maybe liked them, or hated them, and then after a good amount of time has gone by, that your view of that person has changed?

please.

Ardentfrost · 12-04-2007, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by Linzyhop

why because he changed his mind about someone after 7 years??? are you kidding me? you mean to tell me you've never met someone, maybe liked them, or hated them, and then after a good amount of time has gone by, that your view of that person has changed?

please.

It'd be different had Falwell changed in those 7 years. He pandered intolerance until the day he died, it was McCain who changed.

And yes, if he changes his mind about something, then I think we can all change his mind about him. Old McCain was at least honest, had respectable well thought out opinions, and had this "tell it like it is" thing going on. New McCain has none of that. And being a POW 30 years ago will only get you so far (as evident in RP kicking his ass in military donations)

Linzyhop · 12-04-2007, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

It'd be different had Falwell changed in those 7 years. He pandered intolerance until the day he died, it was McCain who changed.

And yes, if he changes his mind about something, then I think we can all change his mind about him. Old McCain was at least honest, had respectable well thought out opinions, and had this "tell it like it is" thing going on. New McCain has none of that. And being a POW 30 years ago will only get you so far (as evident in RP kicking his ass in military donations)

well i guess our opinions of him differ. I think he still had the "tell it like it is" thing going on and he's got my vote.

Ardentfrost · 12-04-2007, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by Linzyhop

well i guess our opinions of him differ. I think he still had the "tell it like it is" thing going on and he's got my vote.

Yeah, he's really telling it like it is when suddenly, and for no definable reason, he and the president are good friends and shit is going great in Iraq. Bush humping is not telling it like it is. Not 18 months ago he was very critical, now, not so much.

Linzyhop · 12-04-2007, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

Yeah, he's really telling it like it is when suddenly, and for no definable reason, he and the president are good friends and shit is going great in Iraq. Bush humping is not telling it like it is. Not 18 months ago he was very critical, now, not so much.

well i don't see it that way. I see that yes, to get the party nomination he is trying to get a little more mainstream republican, but as a man, in his core beliefs and judgments, I don't see any change.

Ardentfrost · 12-04-2007, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by Linzyhop

well i don't see it that way. I see that yes, to get the party nomination he is trying to get a little more mainstream republican, but as a man, in his core beliefs and judgments, I don't see any change.

Maybe you're right and his core beliefs haven't changed, but that doesn't change the fact that they APPEAR to have changed, and that alienates a lot of the people who supported him before. It looks to me that he softened his views to become more appealing to the staunch right, but in doing so he betrayed the disenfranchised moderates. I can't tell you if that was the right choice or not, but personally I don't see how it could have been (as in, it APPEARS to me that those who have been alienated by him outnumber the new supporters).

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