http://www.firerescue1.com/news/320455/ A (white) Boston firefighter is mending from what could have been deadly stab wounds he suffered early yesterday morning when he was allegedly jumped in East Boston while off duty by a group of Hispanic males who told him they "don't want any gringo here." What's good for the ...
12-06-2007, 02:52 PM
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| ..... your a worthless poster  Realist 
| why isn't this a hate crime? http://www.firerescue1.com/news/320455/ A (white) Boston firefighter is mending from what could have been deadly stab wounds he suffered early yesterday morning when he was allegedly jumped in East Boston while off duty by a group of Hispanic males who told him they "don't want any gringo here." What's good for the goose............if six white guys stabbed a hispanic and said they "don't want any spic here" then the papers would be calling it a hate crime. Why not this one? | ||||
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12-06-2007, 02:54 PM
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| Originally Posted by 7960 
Got anymore sources? This one is lacking a lot of detail. | ||||
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12-06-2007, 02:59 PM
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| Originally Posted by Donkey®
 is the listing on the BPD News website enough? BPDNews.com: Off Duty Firefighter Assaulted and Stabbed in East Boston or the story in the Herald written from that police report? Firefighter stabbed in Eastie pack attack - BostonHerald.com even though that's not my point..........my point was, given just these details, switch the races of the perpetrators and victim and the paper would have called it a hate crime. | ||||
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12-06-2007, 03:02 PM
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| Originally Posted by 7960
I understand your point. I just want to read more details. Geez. | ||||
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12-06-2007, 03:10 PM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator  Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Hate crime laws are shit, but if they are going to exist then this should be one. | ||||
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12-06-2007, 03:14 PM
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| Braccae tuae aperiuntur.  Reform Party NJ
| It should be a hate crime. The people who write and support these laws tend to be very hypocritical on this stance and I don't think it would be PC to charge them with a hate crime. I'm sure it would be national news if a minority was charged with a hate crime against a white. | ||||
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12-06-2007, 03:17 PM
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| I don't think the guy was attacked just because of his race. Guess that will be just me though... | ||||
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12-06-2007, 03:19 PM
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| Originally Posted by Donkey® so you think he's leaving part of the story out or is lying about what they said?
because if the story is accurate what else could six hispanic guys saying "no gringos" mean? | ||||
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12-06-2007, 03:22 PM
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| Originally Posted by 7960
He got into an altercation with them. They didn't just say "fuck you gringo" and stab him. Besides, I would like it a little bit better if there was some kind of witness to confirm his story. | ||||
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12-06-2007, 03:23 PM
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| Braccae tuae aperiuntur. Reform Party NJ
| Originally Posted by 7960 More than enough to constitute a hate crime if the guys were white.
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12-06-2007, 03:24 PM
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| Originally Posted by JaJae
I don't think that's true at all. | ||||
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12-06-2007, 03:36 PM
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| Braccae tuae aperiuntur. Reform Party NJ
| Originally Posted by Donkey®
Six white guys walk up to a black guy and start exchanging words with him. The black guy says he's an off duty fireman and just wanted a sandwich. The white guys follow him and start stabbing and beating him after having said they don't want any "niggers" there. You don't think that's enough to get charged with a hate crime in any state in this country? | ||||
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12-06-2007, 03:37 PM
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| Originally Posted by JaJae
I don't think that's enough to call it a hate crime either. | ||||
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12-06-2007, 03:44 PM
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| Originally Posted by Donkey® so you're guessing there's more........since we're going to do that wouldn't it be a safe guess that ONE guy wouldn't "get in an altercation" with SIX other guys?
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12-06-2007, 03:47 PM
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| no es mi culpa  Independent Beantown
| Originally Posted by Donkey® what DO you consider a hate crime?
__________________ There is small disproportion betwixt a fool who useth not wit because he hath it not and him that useth it not when it should avail him. | ||||
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12-06-2007, 03:50 PM
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| Originally Posted by 7960
I wasn't assuming anything at all. I was taking everything at face value. I don't see how this would be a hate crime....even playing roll reversal. To me, the fact the DA didn't charge them with a hate crime also says to me that there were various things going on in this situation. | ||||
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12-06-2007, 03:51 PM
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| Originally Posted by Linzyhop
If a person of one race/religion attacks a person of another race/religion BECAUSE the person is of that race/religion...then that's a hate crime. | ||||
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12-06-2007, 03:51 PM
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| Originally Posted by Donkey® huh?
the DA didn't charge anyone because they don't know who did it. I'm talking about the newspaper story........if it was 6 white guys and one hispanic guy the paper woudl have said "hate crime" in the story. | ||||
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12-06-2007, 03:52 PM
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| Originally Posted by Donkey® so taking it at face value, didn't the hispanic guys attack him BECAUSE he's white?
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12-06-2007, 03:52 PM
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| Originally Posted by 7960 Then I totally missed the point...
Carry on. | ||||
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