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Old 12-12-2007, 03:58 PM   #21
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We don't have enough active members to justify supporting a permaban bet. OT has a huge draw for their various subforums in that they have a large audience for the main forum.. so 1 or 2 people gone isn't any big deal. We do not, so it is.

Stuff like avatars, etc, is all in good fun, and we're okay with those.. but not with losing an active poster.. so we decided we wouldn't honor it here (long before it was obvious who would win)
 
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Old 12-12-2007, 04:13 PM   #22
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I have never even been to the other forum even though I know most of you came from it. This place is a seperate entity and identity so these type of threads make me laugh. Who is DIAC and who cares what bets were made wherever?
 
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Old 12-12-2007, 04:31 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by Roonie View Post
I have never even been to the other forum even though I know most of you came from it. This place is a seperate entity and identity so these type of threads make me laugh. Who is DIAC and who cares what bets were made wherever?
DIAC is Die In A Crossfire, it's a forum name 'over there' that's predominantly filled with politics and anything The Humongous originally posted in the main forum.
 
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Old 12-12-2007, 04:45 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by Roonie View Post
I have never even been to the other forum even though I know most of you came from it. This place is a seperate entity and identity so these type of threads make me laugh. Who is DIAC and who cares what bets were made wherever?
It doesn't matter really. But the bet was a perma ban there AND here. It's fine if he doesn't honor the bet as it was a silly bet to begin with.
 
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Old 12-12-2007, 04:50 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by Stylerod View Post
It's fine if he doesn't honor the bet because we didn't really expect a hillary-loving liberal to keep his word anyway.
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Old 12-12-2007, 05:10 PM   #26
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The admins of this site all agreed not to uphold this bet, and my personal opinion is to not forcibly uphold any bets made. We currently have an avatar bet going among our users that was made on this forum over Ron Paul's performance in the primaries. If the loser of that bet refused to honor their bet, that is up to them. I'm certainly not going to go in and change their account settings to uphold it. What people bet on this forum or other forums is of no importance to me. I would not condone us actively changing someone's account settings unless we're directly asked if we would arbitrate a bet beforehand and we agreed.
 
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Old 12-12-2007, 07:28 PM   #27
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I lost a permaban bet on sports
 
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Old 12-12-2007, 08:06 PM   #28
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I think the mods should uphold bets made on this site. It makes them worth something. Maybe a temp ban instead of a perma while usage is low?
 
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Old 12-12-2007, 08:24 PM   #29
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
I think the mods should uphold bets made on this site. It makes them worth something. Maybe a temp ban instead of a perma while usage is low?
People can honor their bets without moderator action.
 
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Old 12-12-2007, 09:28 PM   #30
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Originally Posted by thomez View Post
People can honor their bets without moderator action.
A man with integrity would. A man with integrity would not make a perma-ban bet and then say it's ok if he's banned because he'll just make an AE and be back.
 
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Old 12-12-2007, 11:01 PM   #31
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
I'm much more versed in US political history than lew...

I doubt that.



But even if that is true, I at least know more about Paul's chances at success than you.
 
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Old 12-12-2007, 11:04 PM   #32
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Since the mods won't honor the bet here, would about I make him an av instead? For like 30 days?
 
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Old 12-13-2007, 03:32 AM   #33
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Originally Posted by lew View Post
Since the mods won't honor the bet here, would about I make him an av instead? For like 30 days?
I told you many weeks ago that the mods weren't honoring the bet and you should do something if you wanted things to go differently

You replied you didn't care about the LL bet...and you didn't say anything, I had to argue multiple times, even when it was more likely than not that I was going to lose, that they should honor the bet

now at the 11th hour, when it's all but certain, you want to change around a void bet you can't lose and get whatever you can?



Also lew, after I mentioned LL wasn't going to ban me multiple times, not once did you suggest an alternative bet for LL, or that we both promise to request our own ban...or anything...you laughed it off and said LL meant nothing and you didn't care at all about it even being part of the bet anymore

Personally, it was still up in the air whether RP would get 12 million when I mentioned it on DIAC, and it seems as though you were hedging your bets...if you lost on OT at least you would have LL, on second thought you didn't want to be tied down to both...either way you clearly invalidated the LL bet when you made clear you didn't care about LL, wouldn't do ANYTHING to help me convince the LL admins to enforce ANY sort of bet on here when I was trying, and actually said as part of the bet you wouldn't even care if I got banned from here

I've made lots of bets in my life, and lived up to every single one of them, however when someone starts acting weird on part of a bet acts as though half of it isn't applicable...then ofcourse that half of the bet isn't something that stands anymore

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Old 12-13-2007, 05:14 AM   #34
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
I didn't enjoy it daily, I went there to discuss HBO's Rome, and check out news about star trek: enterprise (if it was coming back) and firefly

All 3 are gone and never coming back, and there's a reason for the past year I've avoided DIAC since it became un-modded...it's simply a place to troll...we're about to nominate a candidate...and then elect a president...trolling isn't fun when every other thread is "OMG did you hear Obama snorts cocaine?" and "Hillary is the most evil person ever, my friends brother's co-worker said he heard at a party the SS doesn't like her"

Right now, and until about the middle/end of january, we still have the Ron-Pauls, people unsure about if they'd vote democrat (deppends on the person)...its a big free-for-all and there's a small chance for fun...but that's going to end real soon, and even here on LL where there are rules it's not going to be pretty

If a Democrat wins, it's zero fun to post on OT because now everyone is going to blame everything on the Democrats unless something gets solved, no more blaming Bush...it's not my job to be the troll-defender of Hillary, which in reality would not be fun

If a Republican wins, 4 more years of complaining about a GOP president? I already did that on OT for 7 years, it's an old game and no one interesting is around anyway

I never understood why people even posted on OT after LL was up...not that we're amazing, just that OT has almost nothing to offer...except very recently some Ron Paul trolls

Truth is...I would have taken a much much worse bet, however I couldn't believe lew was making such a horrible bet, and no matter what anyone says, it was an awful bet

Ron Paul was only raising so little, he was on track to raise 5 million, if he was lucky...he had one unofficial "moneybomb" that didn't even register, and he had a big fund-raising drive this quarter to help get him on the air in Iowa...it was a major flop and he couldn't even hit 400k over a couple of days of whoring it all over his web page....even the most hard card RPers I met predicted about 1-2 million for Nov 5th, and then ofcourse, we'd be back on track...so even if I believed the Nov 5th hype, which Ron Paul himself didn't until a few days before it...thats 5 million + 1-2...he's capped at 7 million most...where the hell is going to raise another 5 million...assuming he even gets 2 million on November 5th, which was certainly in question

It was one of the most lopsided and easiest bets I've ever made in my life, and it reminds me of playing poker, i've already posted the example so I'm not going to repeat it, but there are some hands you're an idiot if you don't take the bet...if lew is going to run around making these horrible bets, ofcourse I'd take him up

Yes, politics goes up and down, it looks like Mike Huckabee is the new front-runner, up ahead in just about every meaningful early state except NH...and closing in even on Florida

But this was completely different than fluid poll numbers

So I made a bet that I didn't particularly care if I won...and the odds overwhelmingly favored me...similiar circumstances any of you would be an idiot not to take it

Especially considering that making an AE is so incredibly easy, and DIAC is such a shit hole, the only way I'd get "caught" would be if I ran right back there and posted the exact same stuff (with a trollish flare now that it's unmodded) since 2002...and it's just not worth my time

I asked the admins several times, even after it became clear that Ron Paul would actually pull it off, to honor the bet...their answer was clear: We won't ban lew because of any bet you made on DIAC, we won't honor the bet in anyway whatsoever

So the ban-bet became void on LL

That doesn't mean I'll be stay here...no I won't troll my way until I get banned, or leave insulting everyone and everything...I'll just keep an inactive account, and depending if people care, I'll write a small post saying "I don't want to be Hillary's public defender to LL, and the entire forum has basically become anti-Hillary, that's not my thing, I'll check back time to time" but I won't be asking for a ban, nor doing anything to earn one

But if this place from super-tuesday until Nov 4th becomes a place where my sole role is to defend Obama and Hillary against ridiculous attacks, I have better things to do with my time...many right-wingers here will never run out of Obama/Hillary ammo and I never signed up here to be their personal defenders...

And surprisingly, even worse, if a Democrat gets elected, well now it would be my role to defend every action the House takes, everything the Senate does, and the entire White House's day by day actions...and as previously stated, if a Republican wins, I really don't think I have it in me to spend 4 more years online complaining to a right-wing crowd about their right-wing president...the Daily Show does it with much more comedy, and left wing blogs do it with much more substance

I didn't enjoy it daily, I went there to discuss HBO's Rome, and check out news about star trek: enterprise (if it was coming back) and firefly

All 3 are gone and never coming back, and there's a reason for the past year I've avoided DIAC since it became un-modded...it's simply a place to troll...we're about to nominate a candidate...and then elect a president...trolling isn't fun when every other thread is "OMG did you hear Obama snorts cocaine?" and "Hillary is the most evil person ever, my friends brother's co-worker said he heard at a party the SS doesn't like her"

Right now, and until about the middle/end of january, we still have the Ron-Pauls, people unsure about if they'd vote democrat (deppends on the person)...its a big free-for-all and there's a small chance for fun...but that's going to end real soon, and even here on LL where there are rules it's not going to be pretty

If a Democrat wins, it's zero fun to post on OT because now everyone is going to blame everything on the Democrats unless something gets solved, no more blaming Bush...it's not my job to be the troll-defender of Hillary, which in reality would not be fun

If a Republican wins, 4 more years of complaining about a GOP president? I already did that on OT for 7 years, it's an old game and no one interesting is around anyway

I never understood why people even posted on OT after LL was up...not that we're amazing, just that OT has almost nothing to offer...except very recently some Ron Paul trolls

Truth is...I would have taken a much much worse bet, however I couldn't believe lew was making such a horrible bet, and no matter what anyone says, it was an awful bet

Ron Paul was only raising so little, he was on track to raise 5 million, if he was lucky...he had one unofficial "moneybomb" that didn't even register, and he had a big fund-raising drive this quarter to help get him on the air in Iowa...it was a major flop and he couldn't even hit 400k over a couple of days of whoring it all over his web page....even the most hard card RPers I met predicted about 1-2 million for Nov 5th, and then ofcourse, we'd be back on track...so even if I believed the Nov 5th hype, which Ron Paul himself didn't until a few days before it...thats 5 million + 1-2...he's capped at 7 million most...where the hell is going to raise another 5 million...assuming he even gets 2 million on November 5th, which was certainly in question

It was one of the most lopsided and easiest bets I've ever made in my life, and it reminds me of playing poker, i've already posted the example so I'm not going to repeat it, but there are some hands you're an idiot if you don't take the bet...if lew is going to run around making these horrible bets, ofcourse I'd take him up

Yes, politics goes up and down, it looks like Mike Huckabee is the new front-runner, up ahead in just about every meaningful early state except NH...and closing in even on Florida

But this was completely different than fluid poll numbers

So I made a bet that I didn't particularly care if I won...and the odds overwhelmingly favored me...similiar circumstances any of you would be an idiot not to take it

Especially considering that making an AE is so incredibly easy, and DIAC is such a shit hole, the only way I'd get "caught" would be if I ran right back there and posted the exact same stuff (with a trollish flare now that it's unmodded) since 2002...and it's just not worth my time

I asked the admins several times, even after it became clear that Ron Paul would actually pull it off, to honor the bet...their answer was clear: We won't ban lew because of any bet you made on DIAC, we won't honor the bet in anyway whatsoever

So the ban-bet became void on LL

That doesn't mean I'll be stay here...no I won't troll my way until I get banned, or leave insulting everyone and everything...I'll just keep an inactive account, and depending if people care, I'll write a small post saying "I don't want to be Hillary's public defender to LL, and the entire forum has basically become anti-Hillary, that's not my thing, I'll check back time to time" but I won't be asking for a ban, nor doing anything to earn one

But if this place from super-tuesday until Nov 4th becomes a place where my sole role is to defend Obama and Hillary against ridiculous attacks, I have better things to do with my time...many right-wingers here will never run out of Obama/Hillary ammo and I never signed up here to be their personal defenders...

And surprisingly, even worse, if a Democrat gets elected, well now it would be my role to defend every action the House takes, everything the Senate does, and the entire White House's day by day actions...and as previously stated, if a Republican wins, I really don't think I have it in me to spend 4 more years online complaining to a right-wing crowd about their right-wing president...the Daily Show does it with much more comedy, and left wing blogs do it with much more substance

I didn't enjoy it daily, I went there to discuss HBO's Rome, and check out news about star trek: enterprise (if it was coming back) and firefly

All 3 are gone and never coming back, and there's a reason for the past year I've avoided DIAC since it became un-modded...it's simply a place to troll...we're about to nominate a candidate...and then elect a president...trolling isn't fun when every other thread is "OMG did you hear Obama snorts cocaine?" and "Hillary is the most evil person ever, my friends brother's co-worker said he heard at a party the SS doesn't like her"

Right now, and until about the middle/end of january, we still have the Ron-Pauls, people unsure about if they'd vote democrat (deppends on the person)...its a big free-for-all and there's a small chance for fun...but that's going to end real soon, and even here on LL where there are rules it's not going to be pretty

If a Democrat wins, it's zero fun to post on OT because now everyone is going to blame everything on the Democrats unless something gets solved, no more blaming Bush...it's not my job to be the troll-defender of Hillary, which in reality would not be fun

If a Republican wins, 4 more years of complaining about a GOP president? I already did that on OT for 7 years, it's an old game and no one interesting is around anyway

I never understood why people even posted on OT after LL was up...not that we're amazing, just that OT has almost nothing to offer...except very recently some Ron Paul trolls

Truth is...I would have taken a much much worse bet, however I couldn't believe lew was making such a horrible bet, and no matter what anyone says, it was an awful bet

Ron Paul was only raising so little, he was on track to raise 5 million, if he was lucky...he had one unofficial "moneybomb" that didn't even register, and he had a big fund-raising drive this quarter to help get him on the air in Iowa...it was a major flop and he couldn't even hit 400k over a couple of days of whoring it all over his web page....even the most hard card RPers I met predicted about 1-2 million for Nov 5th, and then ofcourse, we'd be back on track...so even if I believed the Nov 5th hype, which Ron Paul himself didn't until a few days before it...thats 5 million + 1-2...he's capped at 7 million most...where the hell is going to raise another 5 million...assuming he even gets 2 million on November 5th, which was certainly in question

It was one of the most lopsided and easiest bets I've ever made in my life, and it reminds me of playing poker, i've already posted the example so I'm not going to repeat it, but there are some hands you're an idiot if you don't take the bet...if lew is going to run around making these horrible bets, ofcourse I'd take him up

Yes, politics goes up and down, it looks like Mike Huckabee is the new front-runner, up ahead in just about every meaningful early state except NH...and closing in even on Florida

But this was completely different than fluid poll numbers

So I made a bet that I didn't particularly care if I won...and the odds overwhelmingly favored me...similiar circumstances any of you would be an idiot not to take it

Especially considering that making an AE is so incredibly easy, and DIAC is such a shit hole, the only way I'd get "caught" would be if I ran right back there and posted the exact same stuff (with a trollish flare now that it's unmodded) since 2002...and it's just not worth my time

I asked the admins several times, even after it became clear that Ron Paul would actually pull it off, to honor the bet...their answer was clear: We won't ban lew because of any bet you made on DIAC, we won't honor the bet in anyway whatsoever

So the ban-bet became void on LL

That doesn't mean I'll be stay here...no I won't troll my way until I get banned, or leave insulting everyone and everything...I'll just keep an inactive account, and depending if people care, I'll write a small post saying "I don't want to be Hillary's public defender to LL, and the entire forum has basically become anti-Hillary, that's not my thing, I'll check back time to time" but I won't be asking for a ban, nor doing anything to earn one

But if this place from super-tuesday until Nov 4th becomes a place where my sole role is to defend Obama and Hillary against ridiculous attacks, I have better things to do with my time...many right-wingers here will never run out of Obama/Hillary ammo and I never signed up here to be their personal defenders...

And surprisingly, even worse, if a Democrat gets elected, well now it would be my role to defend every action the House takes, everything the Senate does, and the entire White House's day by day actions...and as previously stated, if a Republican wins, I really don't think I have it in me to spend 4 more years online complaining to a right-wing crowd about their right-wing president...the Daily Show does it with much more comedy, and left wing blogs do it with much more substance

I didn't enjoy it daily, I went there to discuss HBO's Rome, and check out news about star trek: enterprise (if it was coming back) and firefly

All 3 are gone and never coming back, and there's a reason for the past year I've avoided DIAC since it became un-modded...it's simply a place to troll...we're about to nominate a candidate...and then elect a president...trolling isn't fun when every other thread is "OMG did you hear Obama snorts cocaine?" and "Hillary is the most evil person ever, my friends brother's co-worker said he heard at a party the SS doesn't like her"

Right now, and until about the middle/end of january, we still have the Ron-Pauls, people unsure about if they'd vote democrat (deppends on the person)...its a big free-for-all and there's a small chance for fun...but that's going to end real soon, and even here on LL where there are rules it's not going to be pretty

If a Democrat wins, it's zero fun to post on OT because now everyone is going to blame everything on the Democrats unless something gets solved, no more blaming Bush...it's not my job to be the troll-defender of Hillary, which in reality would not be fun

If a Republican wins, 4 more years of complaining about a GOP president? I already did that on OT for 7 years, it's an old game and no one interesting is around anyway

I never understood why people even posted on OT after LL was up...not that we're amazing, just that OT has almost nothing to offer...except very recently some Ron Paul trolls

Truth is...I would have taken a much much worse bet, however I couldn't believe lew was making such a horrible bet, and no matter what anyone says, it was an awful bet

Ron Paul was only raising so little, he was on track to raise 5 million, if he was lucky...he had one unofficial "moneybomb" that didn't even register, and he had a big fund-raising drive this quarter to help get him on the air in Iowa...it was a major flop and he couldn't even hit 400k over a couple of days of whoring it all over his web page....even the most hard card RPers I met predicted about 1-2 million for Nov 5th, and then ofcourse, we'd be back on track...so even if I believed the Nov 5th hype, which Ron Paul himself didn't until a few days before it...thats 5 million + 1-2...he's capped at 7 million most...where the hell is going to raise another 5 million...assuming he even gets 2 million on November 5th, which was certainly in question

It was one of the most lopsided and easiest bets I've ever made in my life, and it reminds me of playing poker, i've already posted the example so I'm not going to repeat it, but there are some hands you're an idiot if you don't take the bet...if lew is going to run around making these horrible bets, ofcourse I'd take him up

Yes, politics goes up and down, it looks like Mike Huckabee is the new front-runner, up ahead in just about every meaningful early state except NH...and closing in even on Florida

But this was completely different than fluid poll numbers

So I made a bet that I didn't particularly care if I won...and the odds overwhelmingly favored me...similiar circumstances any of you would be an idiot not to take it

Especially considering that making an AE is so incredibly easy, and DIAC is such a shit hole, the only way I'd get "caught" would be if I ran right back there and posted the exact same stuff (with a trollish flare now that it's unmodded) since 2002...and it's just not worth my time

I asked the admins several times, even after it became clear that Ron Paul would actually pull it off, to honor the bet...their answer was clear: We won't ban lew because of any bet you made on DIAC, we won't honor the bet in anyway whatsoever

So the ban-bet became void on LL

That doesn't mean I'll be stay here...no I won't troll my way until I get banned, or leave insulting everyone and everything...I'll just keep an inactive account, and depending if people care, I'll write a small post saying "I don't want to be Hillary's public defender to LL, and the entire forum has basically become anti-Hillary, that's not my thing, I'll check back time to time" but I won't be asking for a ban, nor doing anything to earn one

But if this place from super-tuesday until Nov 4th becomes a place where my sole role is to defend Obama and Hillary against ridiculous attacks, I have better things to do with my time...many right-wingers here will never run out of Obama/Hillary ammo and I never signed up here to be their personal defenders...

And surprisingly, even worse, if a Democrat gets elected, well now it would be my role to defend every action the House takes, everything the Senate does, and the entire White House's day by day actions...and as previously stated, if a Republican wins, I really don't think I have it in me to spend 4 more years online complaining to a right-wing crowd about their right-wing president...the Daily Show does it with much more comedy, and left wing blogs do it with much more substance

I didn't enjoy it daily, I went there to discuss HBO's Rome, and check out news about star trek: enterprise (if it was coming back) and firefly

All 3 are gone and never coming back, and there's a reason for the past year I've avoided DIAC since it became un-modded...it's simply a place to troll...we're about to nominate a candidate...and then elect a president...trolling isn't fun when every other thread is "OMG did you hear Obama snorts cocaine?" and "Hillary is the most evil person ever, my friends brother's co-worker said he heard at a party the SS doesn't like her"

Right now, and until about the middle/end of january, we still have the Ron-Pauls, people unsure about if they'd vote democrat (deppends on the person)...its a big free-for-all and there's a small chance for fun...but that's going to end real soon, and even here on LL where there are rules it's not going to be pretty

If a Democrat wins, it's zero fun to post on OT because now everyone is going to blame everything on the Democrats unless something gets solved, no more blaming Bush...it's not my job to be the troll-defender of Hillary, which in reality would not be fun

If a Republican wins, 4 more years of complaining about a GOP president? I already did that on OT for 7 years, it's an old game and no one interesting is around anyway

I never understood why people even posted on OT after LL was up...not that we're amazing, just that OT has almost nothing to offer...except very recently some Ron Paul trolls

Truth is...I would have taken a much much worse bet, however I couldn't believe lew was making such a horrible bet, and no matter what anyone says, it was an awful bet

Ron Paul was only raising so little, he was on track to raise 5 million, if he was lucky...he had one unofficial "moneybomb" that didn't even register, and he had a big fund-raising drive this quarter to help get him on the air in Iowa...it was a major flop and he couldn't even hit 400k over a couple of days of whoring it all over his web page....even the most hard card RPers I met predicted about 1-2 million for Nov 5th, and then ofcourse, we'd be back on track...so even if I believed the Nov 5th hype, which Ron Paul himself didn't until a few days before it...thats 5 million + 1-2...he's capped at 7 million most...where the hell is going to raise another 5 million...assuming he even gets 2 million on November 5th, which was certainly in question

It was one of the most lopsided and easiest bets I've ever made in my life, and it reminds me of playing poker, i've already posted the example so I'm not going to repeat it, but there are some hands you're an idiot if you don't take the bet...if lew is going to run around making these horrible bets, ofcourse I'd take him up

Yes, politics goes up and down, it looks like Mike Huckabee is the new front-runner, up ahead in just about every meaningful early state except NH...and closing in even on Florida

But this was completely different than fluid poll numbers

So I made a bet that I didn't particularly care if I won...and the odds overwhelmingly favored me...similiar circumstances any of you would be an idiot not to take it

Especially considering that making an AE is so incredibly easy, and DIAC is such a shit hole, the only way I'd get "caught" would be if I ran right back there and posted the exact same stuff (with a trollish flare now that it's unmodded) since 2002...and it's just not worth my time

I asked the admins several times, even after it became clear that Ron Paul would actually pull it off, to honor the bet...their answer was clear: We won't ban lew because of any bet you made on DIAC, we won't honor the bet in anyway whatsoever

So the ban-bet became void on LL

That doesn't mean I'll be stay here...no I won't troll my way until I get banned, or leave insulting everyone and everything...I'll just keep an inactive account, and depending if people care, I'll write a small post saying "I don't want to be Hillary's public defender to LL, and the entire forum has basically become anti-Hillary, that's not my thing, I'll check back time to time" but I won't be asking for a ban, nor doing anything to earn one

But if this place from super-tuesday until Nov 4th becomes a place where my sole role is to defend Obama and Hillary against ridiculous attacks, I have better things to do with my time...many right-wingers here will never run out of Obama/Hillary ammo and I never signed up here to be their personal defenders...

And surprisingly, even worse, if a Democrat gets elected, well now it would be my role to defend every action the House takes, everything the Senate does, and the entire White House's day by day actions...and as previously stated, if a Republican wins, I really don't think I have it in me to spend 4 more years online complaining to a right-wing crowd about their right-wing president...the Daily Show does it with much more comedy, and left wing blogs do it with much more substance

I didn't enjoy it daily, I went there to discuss HBO's Rome, and check out news about star trek: enterprise (if it was coming back) and firefly

All 3 are gone and never coming back, and there's a reason for the past year I've avoided DIAC since it became un-modded...it's simply a place to troll...we're about to nominate a candidate...and then elect a president...trolling isn't fun when every other thread is "OMG did you hear Obama snorts cocaine?" and "Hillary is the most evil person ever, my friends brother's co-worker said he heard at a party the SS doesn't like her"

Right now, and until about the middle/end of january, we still have the Ron-Pauls, people unsure about if they'd vote democrat (deppends on the person)...its a big free-for-all and there's a small chance for fun...but that's going to end real soon, and even here on LL where there are rules it's not going to be pretty

If a Democrat wins, it's zero fun to post on OT because now everyone is going to blame everything on the Democrats unless something gets solved, no more blaming Bush...it's not my job to be the troll-defender of Hillary, which in reality would not be fun

If a Republican wins, 4 more years of complaining about a GOP president? I already did that on OT for 7 years, it's an old game and no one interesting is around anyway

I never understood why people even posted on OT after LL was up...not that we're amazing, just that OT has almost nothing to offer...except very recently some Ron Paul trolls

Truth is...I would have taken a much much worse bet, however I couldn't believe lew was making such a horrible bet, and no matter what anyone says, it was an awful bet

Ron Paul was only raising so little, he was on track to raise 5 million, if he was lucky...he had one unofficial "moneybomb" that didn't even register, and he had a big fund-raising drive this quarter to help get him on the air in Iowa...it was a major flop and he couldn't even hit 400k over a couple of days of whoring it all over his web page....even the most hard card RPers I met predicted about 1-2 million for Nov 5th, and then ofcourse, we'd be back on track...so even if I believed the Nov 5th hype, which Ron Paul himself didn't until a few days before it...thats 5 million + 1-2...he's capped at 7 million most...where the hell is going to raise another 5 million...assuming he even gets 2 million on November 5th, which was certainly in question

It was one of the most lopsided and easiest bets I've ever made in my life, and it reminds me of playing poker, i've already posted the example so I'm not going to repeat it, but there are some hands you're an idiot if you don't take the bet...if lew is going to run around making these horrible bets, ofcourse I'd take him up

Yes, politics goes up and down, it looks like Mike Huckabee is the new front-runner, up ahead in just about every meaningful early state except NH...and closing in even on Florida

But this was completely different than fluid poll numbers

So I made a bet that I didn't particularly care if I won...and the odds overwhelmingly favored me...similiar circumstances any of you would be an idiot not to take it

Especially considering that making an AE is so incredibly easy, and DIAC is such a shit hole, the only way I'd get "caught" would be if I ran right back there and posted the exact same stuff (with a trollish flare now that it's unmodded) since 2002...and it's just not worth my time

I asked the admins several times, even after it became clear that Ron Paul would actually pull it off, to honor the bet...their answer was clear: We won't ban lew because of any bet you made on DIAC, we won't honor the bet in anyway whatsoever

So the ban-bet became void on LL

That doesn't mean I'll be stay here...no I won't troll my way until I get banned, or leave insulting everyone and everything...I'll just keep an inactive account, and depending if people care, I'll write a small post saying "I don't want to be Hillary's public defender to LL, and the entire forum has basically become anti-Hillary, that's not my thing, I'll check back time to time" but I won't be asking for a ban, nor doing anything to earn one

But if this place from super-tuesday until Nov 4th becomes a place where my sole role is to defend Obama and Hillary against ridiculous attacks, I have better things to do with my time...many right-wingers here will never run out of Obama/Hillary ammo and I never signed up here to be their personal defenders...

And surprisingly, even worse, if a Democrat gets elected, well now it would be my role to defend every action the House takes, everything the Senate does, and the entire White House's day by day actions...and as previously stated, if a Republican wins, I really don't think I have it in me to spend 4 more years online complaining to a right-wing crowd about their right-wing president...the Daily Show does it with much more comedy, and left wing blogs do it with much more substance

I didn't enjoy it daily, I went there to discuss HBO's Rome, and check out news about star trek: enterprise (if it was coming back) and firefly

All 3 are gone and never coming back, and there's a reason for the past year I've avoided DIAC since it became un-modded...it's simply a place to troll...we're about to nominate a candidate...and then elect a president...trolling isn't fun when every other thread is "OMG did you hear Obama snorts cocaine?" and "Hillary is the most evil person ever, my friends brother's co-worker said he heard at a party the SS doesn't like her"

Right now, and until about the middle/end of january, we still have the Ron-Pauls, people unsure about if they'd vote democrat (deppends on the person)...its a big free-for-all and there's a small chance for fun...but that's going to end real soon, and even here on LL where there are rules it's not going to be pretty

If a Democrat wins, it's zero fun to post on OT because now everyone is going to blame everything on the Democrats unless something gets solved, no more blaming Bush...it's not my job to be the troll-defender of Hillary, which in reality would not be fun

If a Republican wins, 4 more years of complaining about a GOP president? I already did that on OT for 7 years, it's an old game and no one interesting is around anyway

I never understood why people even posted on OT after LL was up...not that we're amazing, just that OT has almost nothing to offer...except very recently some Ron Paul trolls

Truth is...I would have taken a much much worse bet, however I couldn't believe lew was making such a horrible bet, and no matter what anyone says, it was an awful bet

Ron Paul was only raising so little, he was on track to raise 5 million, if he was lucky...he had one unofficial "moneybomb" that didn't even register, and he had a big fund-raising drive this quarter to help get him on the air in Iowa...it was a major flop and he couldn't even hit 400k over a couple of days of whoring it all over his web page....even the most hard card RPers I met predicted about 1-2 million for Nov 5th, and then ofcourse, we'd be back on track...so even if I believed the Nov 5th hype, which Ron Paul himself didn't until a few days before it...thats 5 million + 1-2...he's capped at 7 million most...where the hell is going to raise another 5 million...assuming he even gets 2 million on November 5th, which was certainly in question

It was one of the most lopsided and easiest bets I've ever made in my life, and it reminds me of playing poker, i've already posted the example so I'm not going to repeat it, but there are some hands you're an idiot if you don't take the bet...if lew is going to run around making these horrible bets, ofcourse I'd take him up

Yes, politics goes up and down, it looks like Mike Huckabee is the new front-runner, up ahead in just about every meaningful early state except NH...and closing in even on Florida

But this was completely different than fluid poll numbers

So I made a bet that I didn't particularly care if I won...and the odds overwhelmingly favored me...similiar circumstances any of you would be an idiot not to take it

Especially considering that making an AE is so incredibly easy, and DIAC is such a shit hole, the only way I'd get "caught" would be if I ran right back there and posted the exact same stuff (with a trollish flare now that it's unmodded) since 2002...and it's just not worth my time

I asked the admins several times, even after it became clear that Ron Paul would actually pull it off, to honor the bet...their answer was clear: We won't ban lew because of any bet you made on DIAC, we won't honor the bet in anyway whatsoever

So the ban-bet became void on LL

That doesn't mean I'll be stay here...no I won't troll my way until I get banned, or leave insulting everyone and everything...I'll just keep an inactive account, and depending if people care, I'll write a small post saying "I don't want to be Hillary's public defender to LL, and the entire forum has basically become anti-Hillary, that's not my thing, I'll check back time to time" but I won't be asking for a ban, nor doing anything to earn one

But if this place from super-tuesday until Nov 4th becomes a place where my sole role is to defend Obama and Hillary against ridiculous attacks, I have better things to do with my time...many right-wingers here will never run out of Obama/Hillary ammo and I never signed up here to be their personal defenders...

And surprisingly, even worse, if a Democrat gets elected, well now it would be my role to defend every action the House takes, everything the Senate does, and the entire White House's day by day actions...and as previously stated, if a Republican wins, I really don't think I have it in me to spend 4 more years online complaining to a right-wing crowd about their right-wing president...the Daily Show does it with much more comedy, and left wing blogs do it with much more substance

I didn't enjoy it daily, I went there to discuss HBO's Rome, and check out news about star trek: enterprise (if it was coming back) and firefly

All 3 are gone and never coming back, and there's a reason for the past year I've avoided DIAC since it became un-modded...it's simply a place to troll...we're about to nominate a candidate...and then elect a president...trolling isn't fun when every other thread is "OMG did you hear Obama snorts cocaine?" and "Hillary is the most evil person ever, my friends brother's co-worker said he heard at a party the SS doesn't like her"

Right now, and until about the middle/end of january, we still have the Ron-Pauls, people unsure about if they'd vote democrat (deppends on the person)...its a big free-for-all and there's a small chance for fun...but that's going to end real soon, and even here on LL where there are rules it's not going to be pretty

If a Democrat wins, it's zero fun to post on OT because now everyone is going to blame everything on the Democrats unless something gets solved, no more blaming Bush...it's not my job to be the troll-defender of Hillary, which in reality would not be fun

If a Republican wins, 4 more years of complaining about a GOP president? I already did that on OT for 7 years, it's an old game and no one interesting is around anyway

I never understood why people even posted on OT after LL was up...not that we're amazing, just that OT has almost nothing to offer...except very recently some Ron Paul trolls

Truth is...I would have taken a much much worse bet, however I couldn't believe lew was making such a horrible bet, and no matter what anyone says, it was an awful bet

Ron Paul was only raising so little, he was on track to raise 5 million, if he was lucky...he had one unofficial "moneybomb" that didn't even register, and he had a big fund-raising drive this quarter to help get him on the air in Iowa...it was a major flop and he couldn't even hit 400k over a couple of days of whoring it all over his web page....even the most hard card RPers I met predicted about 1-2 million for Nov 5th, and then ofcourse, we'd be back on track...so even if I believed the Nov 5th hype, which Ron Paul himself didn't until a few days before it...thats 5 million + 1-2...he's capped at 7 million most...where the hell is going to raise another 5 million...assuming he even gets 2 million on November 5th, which was certainly in question

It was one of the most lopsided and easiest bets I've ever made in my life, and it reminds me of playing poker, i've already posted the example so I'm not going to repeat it, but there are some hands you're an idiot if you don't take the bet...if lew is going to run around making these horrible bets, ofcourse I'd take him up

Yes, politics goes up and down, it looks like Mike Huckabee is the new front-runner, up ahead in just about every meaningful early state except NH...and closing in even on Florida

But this was completely different than fluid poll numbers

So I made a bet that I didn't particularly care if I won...and the odds overwhelmingly favored me...similiar circumstances any of you would be an idiot not to take it

Especially considering that making an AE is so incredibly easy, and DIAC is such a shit hole, the only way I'd get "caught" would be if I ran right back there and posted the exact same stuff (with a trollish flare now that it's unmodded) since 2002...and it's just not worth my time

I asked the admins several times, even after it became clear that Ron Paul would actually pull it off, to honor the bet...their answer was clear: We won't ban lew because of any bet you made on DIAC, we won't honor the bet in anyway whatsoever

So the ban-bet became void on LL

That doesn't mean I'll be stay here...no I won't troll my way until I get banned, or leave insulting everyone and everything...I'll just keep an inactive account, and depending if people care, I'll write a small post saying "I don't want to be Hillary's public defender to LL, and the entire forum has basically become anti-Hillary, that's not my thing, I'll check back time to time" but I won't be asking for a ban, nor doing anything to earn one

But if this place from super-tuesday until Nov 4th becomes a place where my sole role is to defend Obama and Hillary against ridiculous attacks, I have better things to do with my time...many right-wingers here will never run out of Obama/Hillary ammo and I never signed up here to be their personal defenders...

And surprisingly, even worse, if a Democrat gets elected, well now it would be my role to defend every action the House takes, everything the Senate does, and the entire White House's day by day actions...and as previously stated, if a Republican wins, I really don't think I have it in me to spend 4 more years online complaining to a right-wing crowd about their right-wing president...the Daily Show does it with much more comedy, and left wing blogs do it with muc