Why do people make permaban bets on Politics?

[Stylerod]

So over in our old stomping grounds a member here bet another member this:

I accept your bet, it's on

His FEC report for the 4th quarter of 2007 will not include over $12 million:

If the FEC report for the 4th quarter of 2007 states that in that quarter alone Ron Paul raised over $12,000,000 for his 2008 presidential campaign, permaban from OT and LL goes to ********

If the FEC report for the 4th quarter of 2007 states that in that quarter alone Ron Paul raised less than $12,000,000 for his 2008 presidential campaign, permaban from OT and LL goes to ***

We need a supermod as a witness?

So anyway, it looks like Paul is going to be around $20 mil and of course ******** is going to be permabanned from OT. Even though they both agreed on a LL permaban as well I don't know if that will carry over here.


Politics are sooooo unpredictable. One good speech or a bad scream can put you on the top or on the bottom of the political dog pile. To not understand that just seems so immature to me.

I realize bets are fun. But a permaban from places you enjoy daily? I don't get it.

[Linzyhop]

that's because people like to believe they are right in whatever they are talking about and the bragging rights outweigh the risk when the bet is made.....

oh well.

[David Octavius]

*** = Lew?

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by David Octavius

*** = Lew?

Maybe...


We really aren't supposed to make threads about members. So I made it about the situation that our members put themselves in. Which I can't understand. An AV bet I think would be funnier and make more sense. A permaban bet is just ignorant.

If our members come in and want to say who they are that is fine.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

So over in our old stomping grounds a member here bet another member this:



So anyway, it looks like Paul is going to be around $20 mil and of course ******** is going to be permabanned from OT. Even though they both agreed on a LL permaban as well I don't know if that will carry over here.


Politics are sooooo unpredictable. One good speech or a bad scream can put you on the top or on the bottom of the political dog pile. To not understand that just seems so immature to me.

I realize bets are fun. But a permaban from places you enjoy daily? I don't get it.

I didn't enjoy it daily, I went there to discuss HBO's Rome, and check out news about star trek: enterprise (if it was coming back) and firefly

All 3 are gone and never coming back, and there's a reason for the past year I've avoided DIAC since it became un-modded...it's simply a place to troll...we're about to nominate a candidate...and then elect a president...trolling isn't fun when every other thread is "OMG did you hear Obama snorts cocaine?" and "Hillary is the most evil person ever, my friends brother's co-worker said he heard at a party the SS doesn't like her"

Right now, and until about the middle/end of january, we still have the Ron-Pauls, people unsure about if they'd vote democrat (deppends on the person)...its a big free-for-all and there's a small chance for fun...but that's going to end real soon, and even here on LL where there are rules it's not going to be pretty

If a Democrat wins, it's zero fun to post on OT because now everyone is going to blame everything on the Democrats unless something gets solved, no more blaming Bush...it's not my job to be the troll-defender of Hillary, which in reality would not be fun

If a Republican wins, 4 more years of complaining about a GOP president? I already did that on OT for 7 years, it's an old game and no one interesting is around anyway

I never understood why people even posted on OT after LL was up...not that we're amazing, just that OT has almost nothing to offer...except very recently some Ron Paul trolls

Truth is...I would have taken a much much worse bet, however I couldn't believe lew was making such a horrible bet, and no matter what anyone says, it was an awful bet

Ron Paul was only raising so little, he was on track to raise 5 million, if he was lucky...he had one unofficial "moneybomb" that didn't even register, and he had a big fund-raising drive this quarter to help get him on the air in Iowa...it was a major flop and he couldn't even hit 400k over a couple of days of whoring it all over his web page....even the most hard card RPers I met predicted about 1-2 million for Nov 5th, and then ofcourse, we'd be back on track...so even if I believed the Nov 5th hype, which Ron Paul himself didn't until a few days before it...thats 5 million + 1-2...he's capped at 7 million most...where the hell is going to raise another 5 million...assuming he even gets 2 million on November 5th, which was certainly in question

It was one of the most lopsided and easiest bets I've ever made in my life, and it reminds me of playing poker, i've already posted the example so I'm not going to repeat it, but there are some hands you're an idiot if you don't take the bet...if lew is going to run around making these horrible bets, ofcourse I'd take him up

Yes, politics goes up and down, it looks like Mike Huckabee is the new front-runner, up ahead in just about every meaningful early state except NH...and closing in even on Florida

But this was completely different than fluid poll numbers

So I made a bet that I didn't particularly care if I won...and the odds overwhelmingly favored me...similiar circumstances any of you would be an idiot not to take it

Especially considering that making an AE is so incredibly easy, and DIAC is such a shit hole, the only way I'd get "caught" would be if I ran right back there and posted the exact same stuff (with a trollish flare now that it's unmodded) since 2002...and it's just not worth my time

I asked the admins several times, even after it became clear that Ron Paul would actually pull it off, to honor the bet...their answer was clear: We won't ban lew because of any bet you made on DIAC, we won't honor the bet in anyway whatsoever

So the ban-bet became void on LL

That doesn't mean I'll be stay here...no I won't troll my way until I get banned, or leave insulting everyone and everything...I'll just keep an inactive account, and depending if people care, I'll write a small post saying "I don't want to be Hillary's public defender to LL, and the entire forum has basically become anti-Hillary, that's not my thing, I'll check back time to time" but I won't be asking for a ban, nor doing anything to earn one

But if this place from super-tuesday until Nov 4th becomes a place where my sole role is to defend Obama and Hillary against ridiculous attacks, I have better things to do with my time...many right-wingers here will never run out of Obama/Hillary ammo and I never signed up here to be their personal defenders...

And surprisingly, even worse, if a Democrat gets elected, well now it would be my role to defend every action the House takes, everything the Senate does, and the entire White House's day by day actions...and as previously stated, if a Republican wins, I really don't think I have it in me to spend 4 more years online complaining to a right-wing crowd about their right-wing president...the Daily Show does it with much more comedy, and left wing blogs do it with much more substance

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

I didn't enjoy it daily, I went there to discuss HBO's Rome, and check out news about star trek: enterprise (if it was coming back) and firefly

All 3 are gone and never coming back, and there's a reason for the past year I've avoided DIAC since it became un-modded...it's simply a place to troll...we're about to nominate a candidate...and then elect a president...trolling isn't fun when every other thread is "OMG did you hear Obama snorts cocaine?" and "Hillary is the most evil person ever, my friends brother's co-worker said he heard at a party the SS doesn't like her"

Right now, and until about the middle/end of january, we still have the Ron-Pauls, people unsure about if they'd vote democrat (deppends on the person)...its a big free-for-all and there's a small chance for fun...but that's going to end real soon, and even here on LL where there are rules it's not going to be pretty

If a Democrat wins, it's zero fun to post on OT because now everyone is going to blame everything on the Democrats unless something gets solved, no more blaming Bush...it's not my job to be the troll-defender of Hillary, which in reality would not be fun

If a Republican wins, 4 more years of complaining about a GOP president? I already did that on OT for 7 years, it's an old game and no one interesting is around anyway

I never understood why people even posted on OT after LL was up...not that we're amazing, just that OT has almost nothing to offer...except very recently some Ron Paul trolls

Truth is...I would have taken a much much worse bet, however I couldn't believe lew was making such a horrible bet, and no matter what anyone says, it was an awful bet

Ron Paul was only raising so little, he was on track to raise 5 million, if he was lucky...he had one unofficial "moneybomb" that didn't even register, and he had a big fund-raising drive this quarter to help get him on the air in Iowa...it was a major flop and he couldn't even hit 400k over a couple of days of whoring it all over his web page....even the most hard card RPers I met predicted about 1-2 million for Nov 5th, and then ofcourse, we'd be back on track...so even if I believed the Nov 5th hype, which Ron Paul himself didn't until a few days before it...thats 5 million + 1-2...he's capped at 7 million most...where the hell is going to raise another 5 million...assuming he even gets 2 million on November 5th, which was certainly in question

It was one of the most lopsided and easiest bets I've ever made in my life, and it reminds me of playing poker, i've already posted the example so I'm not going to repeat it, but there are some hands you're an idiot if you don't take the bet...if lew is going to run around making these horrible bets, ofcourse I'd take him up

Yes, politics goes up and down, it looks like Mike Huckabee is the new front-runner, up ahead in just about every meaningful early state except NH...and closing in even on Florida

But this was completely different than fluid poll numbers

So I made a bet that I didn't particularly care if I won...and the odds overwhelmingly favored me...similiar circumstances any of you would be an idiot not to take it

Especially considering that making an AE is so incredibly easy, and DIAC is such a shit hole, the only way I'd get "caught" would be if I ran right back there and posted the exact same stuff (with a trollish flare now that it's unmodded) since 2002...and it's just not worth my time

I asked the admins several times, even after it became clear that Ron Paul would actually pull it off, to honor the bet...their answer was clear: We won't ban lew because of any bet you made on DIAC, we won't honor the bet in anyway whatsoever

So the ban-bet became void on LL

That doesn't mean I'll be stay here...no I won't troll my way until I get banned, or leave insulting everyone and everything...I'll just keep an inactive account, and depending if people care, I'll write a small post saying "I don't want to be Hillary's public defender to LL, and the entire forum has basically become anti-Hillary, that's not my thing, I'll check back time to time" but I won't be asking for a ban, nor doing anything to earn one

But if this place from super-tuesday until Nov 4th becomes a place where my sole role is to defend Obama and Hillary against ridiculous attacks, I have better things to do with my time...many right-wingers here will never run out of Obama/Hillary ammo and I never signed up here to be their personal defenders...

And surprisingly, even worse, if a Democrat gets elected, well now it would be my role to defend every action the House takes, everything the Senate does, and the entire White House's day by day actions...and as previously stated, if a Republican wins, I really don't think I have it in me to spend 4 more years online complaining to a right-wing crowd about their right-wing president...the Daily Show does it with much more comedy, and left wing blogs do it with much more substance

Wow, that was quite a waterfall of words.

So, is the ban only from DIAC or all of OT?

[ballz2wallz]

It's all about getting e-attention

[Thorgrim]

It's all of OT, but since Firefly/HBO died out...I stopped visiting their other forums for something like over a year...the only thing left for me to EVER visit was DIAC

and even there...I've stayed away with an active account for quite some time, in fact it's been about 2 years I think I only came back for a month twice...just this past month and sometime about a year ago for a week or two

[lew]

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

It's all of OT, but since Firefly/HBO died out...I stopped visiting their other forums for something like over a year...the only thing left for me to EVER visit was DIAC

and even there...I've stayed away with an active account for quite some time, in fact it's been about 2 years I think I only came back for a month twice...just this past month and sometime about a year ago for a week or two

Ok. But you have been a member there for, what, 6 or 7 years? You do go back. And your "lopsided and easiest bets I've ever made in my life" was blown out of the water by what looks like a large margin.

It just seems that someone who likes to keep up with politics as much as you and *** do would be so sure of something. When history has shown us time and time again that there is no sure thing in politics. It's so vain to think otherwise.

[ballz2wallz]

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

I see nothing.

[hsmith]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

I didn't enjoy it daily, I went there to discuss HBO's Rome, and check out news about star trek: enterprise (if it was coming back) and firefly

All 3 are gone and never coming back, and there's a reason for the past year I've avoided DIAC since it became un-modded...it's simply a place to troll...we're about to nominate a candidate...and then elect a president...trolling isn't fun when every other thread is "OMG did you hear Obama snorts cocaine?" and "Hillary is the most evil person ever, my friends brother's co-worker said he heard at a party the SS doesn't like her"

Right now, and until about the middle/end of january, we still have the Ron-Pauls, people unsure about if they'd vote democrat (deppends on the person)...its a big free-for-all and there's a small chance for fun...but that's going to end real soon, and even here on LL where there are rules it's not going to be pretty

If a Democrat wins, it's zero fun to post on OT because now everyone is going to blame everything on the Democrats unless something gets solved, no more blaming Bush...it's not my job to be the troll-defender of Hillary, which in reality would not be fun

If a Republican wins, 4 more years of complaining about a GOP president? I already did that on OT for 7 years, it's an old game and no one interesting is around anyway

I never understood why people even posted on OT after LL was up...not that we're amazing, just that OT has almost nothing to offer...except very recently some Ron Paul trolls

Truth is...I would have taken a much much worse bet, however I couldn't believe lew was making such a horrible bet, and no matter what anyone says, it was an awful bet

Ron Paul was only raising so little, he was on track to raise 5 million, if he was lucky...he had one unofficial "moneybomb" that didn't even register, and he had a big fund-raising drive this quarter to help get him on the air in Iowa...it was a major flop and he couldn't even hit 400k over a couple of days of whoring it all over his web page....even the most hard card RPers I met predicted about 1-2 million for Nov 5th, and then ofcourse, we'd be back on track...so even if I believed the Nov 5th hype, which Ron Paul himself didn't until a few days before it...thats 5 million + 1-2...he's capped at 7 million most...where the hell is going to raise another 5 million...assuming he even gets 2 million on November 5th, which was certainly in question

It was one of the most lopsided and easiest bets I've ever made in my life, and it reminds me of playing poker, i've already posted the example so I'm not going to repeat it, but there are some hands you're an idiot if you don't take the bet...if lew is going to run around making these horrible bets, ofcourse I'd take him up

Yes, politics goes up and down, it looks like Mike Huckabee is the new front-runner, up ahead in just about every meaningful early state except NH...and closing in even on Florida

But this was completely different than fluid poll numbers

So I made a bet that I didn't particularly care if I won...and the odds overwhelmingly favored me...similiar circumstances any of you would be an idiot not to take it

Especially considering that making an AE is so incredibly easy, and DIAC is such a shit hole, the only way I'd get "caught" would be if I ran right back there and posted the exact same stuff (with a trollish flare now that it's unmodded) since 2002...and it's just not worth my time

I asked the admins several times, even after it became clear that Ron Paul would actually pull it off, to honor the bet...their answer was clear: We won't ban lew because of any bet you made on DIAC, we won't honor the bet in anyway whatsoever

So the ban-bet became void on LL

That doesn't mean I'll be stay here...no I won't troll my way until I get banned, or leave insulting everyone and everything...I'll just keep an inactive account, and depending if people care, I'll write a small post saying "I don't want to be Hillary's public defender to LL, and the entire forum has basically become anti-Hillary, that's not my thing, I'll check back time to time" but I won't be asking for a ban, nor doing anything to earn one

But if this place from super-tuesday until Nov 4th becomes a place where my sole role is to defend Obama and Hillary against ridiculous attacks, I have better things to do with my time...many right-wingers here will never run out of Obama/Hillary ammo and I never signed up here to be their personal defenders...

And surprisingly, even worse, if a Democrat gets elected, well now it would be my role to defend every action the House takes, everything the Senate does, and the entire White House's day by day actions...and as previously stated, if a Republican wins, I really don't think I have it in me to spend 4 more years online complaining to a right-wing crowd about their right-wing president...the Daily Show does it with much more comedy, and left wing blogs do it with much more substance

wat

[hsmith]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

It's all about getting e-attention

who are you?

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

I see nothing.

Hah, nothing to see here, move along, move along.

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by hsmith

who are you?

wat

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Ok. But you have been a member there for, what, 6 or 7 years? You do go back. And your "lopsided and easiest bets I've ever made in my life" was blown out of the water by what looks like a large margin.

It just seems that someone who likes to keep up with politics as much as you and *** do would be so sure of something. When history has shown us time and time again that there is no sure thing in politics. It's so vain to think otherwise.

6-7 years and I've never contributed even a dime to get an AV...and I can afford it...shows how much I "value" OT

I don't need to post a bunch of examples of really easy bets where things don't work out...you can flop a full house and get blown out of the water by a royal flush if the other player is lucky enough...but you always match his all-in...its just good betting

I'm much more versed in US political history than lew...that has nothing to do with it...it has to do with someone who had raised less than 2 million after being 1/3 done with the quarter, and ridiculously failed at an unofficial moneybomb and an official fundraiser for a measely 400k...

My bet was not made on politics, it was made on performance history of a person, his libertarian ideology, etc, meant absolutely nothing when I considered lew's offer...his chances to win the election also meant nothing to me

Means absolutely nothing about my political forecasting abilities

[ballz2wallz]