Originally Posted by hsmith The better question is: Why is our gov't wasting time voting on this pointless shit that doesn't fucking matter and not working on balancing our budget. Our culture is important and that is what it is about. It is about who we are and always have ...
12-13-2007, 06:01 PM
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| I wonder Independent San Antonio, Texas 
| Originally Posted by hsmith Our culture is important and that is what it is about. It is about who we are and always have been. 
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12-13-2007, 06:13 PM
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| Political Genius  Republican Yorba Linda Ca.
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz
And two of them would be from California. Thanks a lot! 
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12-13-2007, 06:19 PM
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| Political Genius Republican Yorba Linda Ca.
| Originally Posted by hsmith
It would be pointless I agree. Except for the fact that we have an increasing political atmosphere of PC pressure that seems so bent on denial we even have a common culture or religious heritage. This in spite of our unique western tolerance of all religions. The point would be why such a vote would ever need be considered in the first place? | ||||
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12-13-2007, 06:26 PM
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| Political Genius Republican Yorba Linda Ca.
| Originally Posted by Scrum
A Video: YouTube - Barney Bush White House Christmas video  | ||||
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12-13-2007, 06:38 PM
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| Braccae tuae aperiuntur.  Reform Party NJ
| Originally Posted by RMNIXON That's probably the most productive thing that's happened on the hill all week.
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12-13-2007, 08:13 PM
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| Braccae tuae aperiuntur. Reform Party NJ
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12-13-2007, 09:49 PM
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| ..... your a worthless poster  Realist
| Originally Posted by JaJae
 No, it's not rational. He supported ramadan and diwali but they'd be "wasting time" to take another 3 minutes to vote on christmas when they should be protesting bush?!?!!? Another one who thinks cops shouldn't be giving tickets "when there are worse crimes happening right now!"   | ||||
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12-14-2007, 08:12 AM
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| Never, never, never give up  Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by JaJae
 It's the ole' thing. Don't want to answer a question? Blame Bush! | ||||
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12-14-2007, 09:06 AM
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| minor irritant &/or non-entity News Moderator Contrarian Birmingham, UK
| I can see why this is seen as a waste of time & I agree thats its unequal, ..., I assume that all people were present for both votes & that none represented largely 'non-christan' constituancies. OTOH the pro-Christian one seems a direct response to the earlier one & as such seems more than a little insecure & possibly even slightly small minded. Given the world situation I can see some point in the 'Ramadan Mubarak' one & also see the 'Merry Christmas' one as redundant. Voting for one & agin the other still seems unevenhanded tho' Perhaps once a year there could be a 'goodwill to all religious types' vote? As for meaning of Christmas being diminished, by far & away the greatest driver of this is the commercialisation of the religious festival, as opposed to any heathen/secularist campaign/threat Blairs appearence, (in both senses), in that vid drew aa fair bit of negitive comment on the radio this AM As for bickering about rep points, ..., I do have a point to make but, in the belief I'll deserve a point for declining to make it, I'm going to keep schtum. | ||||
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12-14-2007, 12:32 PM
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| ipsa Scientia Potestas est  Pragmatist Greensboro, NC
| Aside from controversies surrounding their passage, does anyone even pay attention to the shit Congress does praising this or that person or event?  I don't really see the point in them spending time on stuff like this when there's so much more that's not being given enough attention. | ||||
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12-14-2007, 12:36 PM
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| Originally Posted by motivez I totally agree. But it begs the question, if this kind of shit is such a waste of time why didn't they vote no for ramadan and diwali? Why were those not a waste of time but the one for christmas is a waste of time?
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12-14-2007, 12:39 PM
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| Banned  Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
| Originally Posted by motivez Not to point fingers, but that also seems to be a trend of the Democratic party.
When we are at war, we have Democrats in San Fran that want to remove 'In God We Trust' from our government. When we are at war, we have Democrats who want to force the gay marriage issue and make it a priority. When we are at war, we have Democrats who want to impeach our Commander in Chief. When we are at war, we have Democrats who want to argue about holidays. I agree completely, I think there are far more important things to worry about than such things. Perhaps when we have a time of economic prosperity and international peace, then we can worry about such things, but not now. But no, such is not the case. | ||||
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12-14-2007, 12:44 PM
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| ipsa Scientia Potestas est Pragmatist Greensboro, NC
| Originally Posted by 7960 probably because christmas is already a federally recognized national holiday
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12-14-2007, 12:47 PM
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| Originally Posted by motivez if that was their reasoning then they're splitting a VERY thin hair.
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12-14-2007, 12:47 PM
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| Braccae tuae aperiuntur. Reform Party NJ
| Originally Posted by motivez So our politicians shouldn't be willing to recognize it along with other religions they choose to recognize? These nearly identical bills were about our government taking the time out to recognize the holidays/religions and pay respects to the people who celebrate them. The people voting had a choice to either pay respects to the religions or not to. Nine Democrats voted against Christianity and for Islam.
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12-14-2007, 12:48 PM
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| ipsa Scientia Potestas est Pragmatist Greensboro, NC
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz Although in god we trust and holiday honoring are petty issues, gay people being treated equally by our government through marriage licenses (or civil unions that grant them the same rights as a marriage license) is a serious social policy issue that should have time spent on it
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12-14-2007, 12:49 PM
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| ipsa Scientia Potestas est Pragmatist Greensboro, NC
| Originally Posted by 7960 i'm not defending them (i'm not their spokesman), but if i had to guess, that seems the most rational reason i can think of. christmas is honored every year with a federal holiday
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12-14-2007, 01:44 PM
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| Bokonist  Independent Kansas City
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz Extremely important issues.
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12-14-2007, 01:46 PM
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| Banned Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
| Originally Posted by nbiggershaft There is a time and place for everything. They may be important, but I think there are some things that still take precedence over them. That includes our safety and security as a whole country. No minority group politics should take priority over the country, especially when we have men and women dying in a war. When the war is over and they come home, then we can talk about minority groups and civil rights. But sometimes they can just distract us from things that are more important.
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