Why I Left Christianity

[Linzyhop]

[Bill Shatner]

Originally Posted by Linzyhop

Keep on truckin' Linzy, I hear 4,000 comes with a little blue ribbon and a refrigerator magnet that says "everybody look at me!"

Originally Posted by ballz

The point you may wonder (if you're unable to determine it yourself)? That if we are indeed equal to animals, then we would easily be able to treat other humans the same as animals. Yet still, we continue to hold human life in higher regard (because we are not merely animals).

The fact is that we are not equal with all other animals; we are the dominant and probably the only sentient species on this planet.

Animals are to be used in any way that generates a better quality of life for us whether that be through consumption, vivisection or product production.

Don't worry, they don't mind.

Actually a better way to say it would be "don't worry they can't mind".

[hereticzero]

Originally Posted by Bill Shatner

Who would dispute that?

Everything that exists is energy - there's nothing mysticalabout it.

That is my point, everything that exists is energy. I had pointed out that since we were made of energy, when we die that energy is given off and we become something else. Energy is not destroyed but changed into a different state when released. Our energy goes somewhere when we die. It could be the cosmos, it could be our energy just bounces around in the atmosphere. Will we have a consciousness? I don't know. I don't care one way or the other, really. I've had enough life to know I don't care if I come back or not or if I exist after death. Chasing the life-after is not what I spend my time on. Cheers!

[Linzyhop]

Originally Posted by Bill Shatner

Keep on truckin' Linzy, I hear 4,000 comes with a little blue ribbon and a refrigerator magnet that says "everybody look at me!"

[Bill Shatner]

Originally Posted by hereticzero

That is my point, everything that exists is energy. I had pointed out that since we were made of energy, when we die that energy is given off and we become something else. Energy is not destroyed but changed into a different state when released. Our energy goes somewhere when we die. It could be the cosmos, it could be our energy just bounces around in the atmosphere. Will we have a consciousness? I don't know. I don't care one way or the other, really. I've had enough life to know I don't care if I come back or not or if I exist after death. Chasing the life-after is not what I spend my time on. Cheers!

I would have agreed with this assertion if you didn't toss in that "consciousness" part.

Energy itself does not have consciousness; consciousness is based solely on how our specific neurons interact with each other.

Gases and other tiny bits of matter being devoid of brains cannot possibly be conscious.

As a matter of fact most life forms that actually do have brains aren't even conscious so what makes you think that gas and little pieces of organic matter could possibly be?

I applaud your efforts to rid yourself of superstitious nonsense but I think that a pivotal step in your case needs to be ceasing the fence straddling when it comes to "conscious energy".

It's simply metaphysical idea and nothing more.