Magic endorses Hillary: Eat it Oprah

Thorgrim · 12-18-2007, 02:56 PM

From NBC/NJ's Athena Jones
DES MOINES, Iowa -- The good mood continued for Hillary Clinton, who was out campaigning with her husband on Tuesday here in Iowa.

It was the first time the couple has appeared together on the campaign trail here since a forum on minority issues on Dec. 1. Before that, they last campaigned in the state over Labor Day weekend, her staffers said.

NBA legend Earvin "Magic" Johnson, joined the former First Couple on the trail at a Hy-Vee grocery store Tuesday morning in front of a mostly black crowd of about 40 people, many of whom were high school and junior high school basketball players, school principals an their relatives. Magic went around the room high-fiving the spectators, while the Clintons signed autographs.

When asked why he supported the New York senator over Obama, Magic cited her years of experience. "I love the Clintons, and I just know Sen. Clinton is the best candidate to move our country forward," he said during a brief, hastilty arranged press conference.

A cheerful Mrs. Clinton -- who pretended to do a jump shot as she entered the store -- spoke only briefly, joking with a reporter who asked about her apparent good mood Monday by saying, "You mean I got my groove back?" (A reference to the Terry McMillan novel "How Stella Got Her Groove Back", which was a hit among black women readers in the 1990s.)

"I feel great," she said. "You know, I love campaigning. I like getting out and meeting new people, and this is the time when Iowans start making up their minds. So there's an intensity and sense of seriousness that is palpable, and I felt it all day Sunday; I felt it all day yesterday. I'm looking forward to getting out again today."

The Clintons, Magic and a day in Iowa - First Read - msnbc.com

Johnson is way oooler than Oprah, and I'm sick of celebrities who greatly overshadow their candidate...those 18,000 people went to see Oprah, and people are going to base their vote on Oprah

No one is going to base their vote on Magic Johnson, but he's a proven fighter and I think his AIDS awareness/nationwise fight has educated him politically

Probably more than Oprah and her condescending attitudes towards audience members who questioned the Iraq situation in 2003...pro-war cheerleader that she was until it was cool to be questionable about the war, and then it was cool to be somewhat anti-war

JaJae · 12-18-2007, 03:08 PM

We need your opinion.

Linzyhop · 12-18-2007, 03:10 PM

how is that "eat it oprah"?

i would think that oprah is still a bigger name and influence than Magic Johnson......

JaJae · 12-18-2007, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by Linzyhop

how is that "eat it oprah"?

i would think that oprah is still a bigger name and influence than Magic Johnson......

I agree. I'd take Oprah bringing in 18-30k people per event over shooting a basketball w/ Magic Johnson at a grocery store...

Plus you have the power of Oprah's television show.

Sounds like Hillary got the short end of the stick. I would much prefer to be in Obama's shoes right now if I were running for president.

Ardentfrost · 12-18-2007, 03:15 PM

I guess this means Hilary gets the AIDS vote.

bheld · 12-18-2007, 03:31 PM

Endorsements in general are worthless and just detract from the candidate. I'm so sick of hearing about the "Oprah Effect" or whatever they're calling it now.

Thorgrim · 12-18-2007, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

I guess this means Hilary gets the AIDS vote.

I'm pretty sure there are more homosexual presidential primary voters, compared to blacks

and AIDS is a dark stain on our history against gay americans

BTW to others: Oprah may have been a bigger endorsement, but it was way overhyped...Clinton needs endorsements from real approachable people like magic johnson

oprah's endorsement came on like it was another one of her tv shows that are so epic it makes you think she should be running instead

Magic's endorsement was just heartfelt and another badge to add

Linzyhop · 12-18-2007, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

I'm pretty sure there are more homosexual presidential primary voters, compared to blacks

and AIDS is a dark stain on our history against gay americans

BTW to others: Oprah may have been a bigger endorsement, but it was way overhyped...Clinton needs endorsements from real approachable people like magic johnson

oprah's endorsement came on like it was another one of her tv shows that are so epic it makes you think she should be running instead

Magic's endorsement was just heartfelt and another badge to add

you might perceive it as more heartfelt, but average american joe could give a flying fuck. to me, i wouldn't care either way about either of them, but as far as popularity goes, Oprah has more of a following.

Thorgrim · 12-18-2007, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by Linzyhop

you might perceive it as more heartfelt, but average american joe could give a flying fuck. to me, i wouldn't care either way about either of them, but as far as popularity goes, Oprah has more of a following.

I think if you're in Iowa and he's stopping around some places for you, it's a nice reminder that she's not only the best general election candidate but she's also a person people like

Linzyhop · 12-18-2007, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

I think if you're in Iowa and he's stopping around some places for you, it's a nice reminder that she's not only the best general election candidate but she's also a person people like

all opinion. same could be said for any of them.

Thorgrim · 12-18-2007, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by Linzyhop

all opinion. same could be said for any of them.

I don't think Edwards/Obama have an impression INSIDE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY that people don't like their personalities

And all the polls show Hillary is probably the only one who could beat McCain, that and common sense (he's going to run hard foreign policy, what are Edwards/Obama gonna say...i have no idea exactly what Hillary will say, but I know it's been planned out for...months if not years and is constantly being tweaked and upgraded so when she tackles the GE candidate she can respond to "inexperience" issues

Bill I think tipped his hand when he said Hillary was involved in a lot of foreign policy meetings at the highest levels, ofcourse, naturally, her opinion only mattered when things went well

but voters will buy that, after all what GOP candidate is seriously going to say "It was YOUR IDEA to do X" (x being something Clinton did) and voters to take it seriously

Linzyhop · 12-18-2007, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

I don't think Edwards/Obama have an impression INSIDE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY that people don't like their personalities

And all the polls show Hillary is probably the only one who could beat McCain, that and common sense (he's going to run hard foreign policy, what are Edwards/Obama gonna say...i have no idea exactly what Hillary will say, but I know it's been planned out for...months if not years and is constantly being tweaked and upgraded so when she tackles the GE candidate she can respond to "inexperience" issues

Bill I think tipped his hand when he said Hillary was involved in a lot of foreign policy meetings at the highest levels, ofcourse, naturally, her opinion only mattered when things went well but voters will buy that, after all what GOP candidate is seriously going to say "It was YOUR IDEA to do X" (x being something Clinton did) and voters to take it seriously

i could care less about any of that. i'm just saying as far as a following goes for supporters, Oprah's is WAY bigger than Magic's. that's my point and I would challenge anyone to argue it successfully. your arguments are not about this point, they lie elsewhere. if you want to argue this point, be my guest.

hsmith · 12-18-2007, 04:25 PM

Wow, someone else I don't care about recommending someone I don't care about!

Thorgrim · 12-18-2007, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by hsmith

Wow, someone else I don't care about recommending someone I don't care about!

oh yeah...would it surprise you to know that RON PAUL is endorsing Hillary Clinton?

hsmith · 12-18-2007, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

oh yeah...would it surprise you to know that RON PAUL is endorsing Hillary Clinton?

Yes.

I really never bought into this endorsement crap, esp from news papers.

Thorgrim · 12-18-2007, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by hsmith

Yes.

I really never bought into this endorsement crap, esp from news papers.

But if Ron Paul DID endorse Hillary Clinton, it would surprise, what else would it do? (exclude comments about vomitting/wanting to slit your wrists)

What would you do this Nov 4th?

Ardentfrost · 12-18-2007, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

But if Ron Paul DID endorse Hillary Clinton, it would surprise, what else would it do? (exclude comments about vomitting/wanting to slit your wrists)

What would you do this Nov 4th?

I can tell you what I wouldn't do: I wouldn't vote for Ron Paul.

Principles are principles. They have nothing to do with how well you're liked. If you say one thing and do something else, like espouse freedom and low spending as RP does but then endorse a candidate who wants tax hikes for more spending and to enslave citizens to one another, then I have no interest in you anymore.

ballz2wallz · 12-18-2007, 07:10 PM

Who's Magic Johnson and who cares about him?

lol

Linzyhop · 12-19-2007, 09:12 AM

I notice my previous post was never replied to.

big surprise.

garbagemanlb · 12-19-2007, 11:15 AM

I can't begin to convey how much pleasure I get from Hillary dropping in the polls. As a true progressive, I am disgusted with her pandering and waffling on issues.

She is the absolute worst candidate that is running for the Democrats right now, and it is sad that I would still take her over any of the GOP candidates save Paul.