Fox attacks Edwards/Obama and then whines they won't do their shows

Thorgrim · 12-19-2007, 11:23 PM

Fox News is shown for the horrible organization they are...yet again

YouTube Video

You know how many theads on different issues have been posted on here? You could make a book, several books...yet the examples of overwhelming liberal bias at somewhere like ABC?

*crickets*

JaJae · 12-19-2007, 11:42 PM

All the other stations attack GOP members, but Republicans go on their stations...

They don't have to go if they don't want to. That's their choice. But, Fox has a point. It's not like Olbermann or CNN hasn't had their moments or deliberately threw primary debates or anything...

Thorgrim · 12-19-2007, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

All the other stations attack GOP members, but Republicans go on their stations...

They don't have to go if they don't want to. That's their choice. But, Fox has a point. It's not like Olbermann or CNN hasn't had their moments or deliberately threw primary debates or anything...

they don't mercilessly attack someone's character, sometimes on baseless grounds (they've been especially vicious in regards to Obama...what did he ever do that you'd want to attack his character? Edwards is a former Senate who was the VP nominee who was almost Vice-President if 60,000 would have changed their vote out of tens of millions cast

What have they said about Fred Thompson? That he's lazy? Hell his own campaign staffers say that off the record

Rudy has actual scandals, when's the last time anyone brought up that McCain was mentioned as one of the corrupt Senators in Keating 5? Who goes on CNN and calls Huckabee a phony, as the host of a news show? How many ridiculous things can you say about Mormonism...that haven't been said on any MSM station, despite the fact that Obama's churh was attacked because it thought black men should be more responsibile, and in doing so advocated the black community have...black values...good christian values put in the black community...this was twisted that Obama is part of a cult that supports black domination or something ridiculous...but Mormons, can't say anything if they have the (R)

JaJae · 12-20-2007, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

they don't mercilessly attack someone's character,

Have you ever seen Olbermann?

motivez · 12-20-2007, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Have you ever seen Olbermann?

O'rly has a "Pinheads and Patriots" -- it's hyperbole. And certainly with some of the scandals Rudy has been involved in lately, if anyone has been deserving of a little character criticism for judgments they've made, it's him.

JaJae · 12-20-2007, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by motivez

O'rly has a "Pinheads and Patriots" -- it's hyperbole. And certainly with some of the scandals Rudy has been involved in lately, if anyone has been deserving of a little character criticism for judgments they've made, it's him.

So you've proved my point... O'Rly does it, Olbermann does it. Whether you feel it's justified when Olbermann does it is irrelevant.

motivez · 12-20-2007, 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by JaJae

So you've proved my point... O'Rly does it, Olbermann does it. Whether you feel it's justified when Olbermann does it is irrelevant.

Not really, I don't know the details about the one you've posted an image of because I rarely tune in, but I'm pretty sure those segments are all about something stupid the person has done.. it's not an attack because they're a member of political party x or character assassination (ie: barack obama is a muslim educated in a madrassa!)

JaJae · 12-20-2007, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by motivez

Not really, I don't know the details about the one you've posted an image of because I rarely tune in, but I'm pretty sure those segments are all about something stupid the person has done.. it's not an attack because they're a member of political party x or character assassination (ie: barack obama is a muslim educated in a madrassa!)

FoxNews was not the only news station to run that story. Just last week I saw a clip of CNN mentioning it without correction when they had a Hillary staffer on.

Thorgrim · 12-20-2007, 12:54 AM

No context to the worse person...but if it is about actual bad things he's done...like have taxpayers pay for the NYPD to taxi around his mistress, back before anyone knew who she was or that she was even seeing the mayor as a close friend, and at the same time, NY's finest had to walk her dog, they were paid for this, which I think might make it worse

It's horrible no matter how you look at it

You see every network equally criticize candidates for decisions they make, but fox news, as seen in the youtube vid...takes it a step farther

kinggovernor · 12-20-2007, 02:09 AM

I will agree they have attacked Obama needlessly, that man will be President some day. I don't think this election but maybe in 4 or 8 years.

tbone · 12-20-2007, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

(they've been especially vicious in regards to Obama...what did he ever do that you'd want to attack his character?

He's half black and comes from a middle class background, if elected he could shake up the whole elitist foundation of this country, that even the founding fathers built in. It would give the average joe a real opportunity to be President, not just old, white, rich guys. At this point, these same people, who are threatened, are more willing to give Hillary a shot than Obama even though she's a woman, she's less threatening to the establishment.

bheld · 12-20-2007, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by tbone

He's half black and comes from a middle class background, if elected he could shake up the whole elitist foundation of this country, that even the founding fathers built in. It would give the average joe a real opportunity to be President, not just old, white, rich guys. At this point, these same people, who are threatened, are more willing to give Hillary a shot than Obama even though she's a woman, she's less threatening to the establishment.

I don't think it's that revolutionary. I mean, he came on the scene at the DNC and was introduced by Hillary herself if I recall correctly. You don't get put on a career path like that unless you have some sort of patron.

There are far too many people that are for Obama because of his race and they feel like we "need" a black president to right some ancient wrong. I don't think it's that simple. We need the right person for the job, and it's just as wrong to elevate somebody because of their race as it is to keep them down.

tbone · 12-21-2007, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by bheld

I don't think it's that revolutionary. I mean, he came on the scene at the DNC and was introduced by Hillary herself if I recall correctly. You don't get put on a career path like that unless you have some sort of patron.

There are far too many people that are for Obama because of his race and they feel like we "need" a black president to right some ancient wrong. I don't think it's that simple. We need the right person for the job, and it's just as wrong to elevate somebody because of their race as it is to keep them down.

I wholeheartedly agree, we should never elect someone based solely on their race, gender, etc. but based on their ability and experience. I still think Obama is a huge threat though as there are plenty of likeable, trustworthy politicians out there that simply don't have a shot due to being relatively unknown and not having the financial resources to be a contender. To go from being one of those no names to being a real contender puts the fear of God in people who were born with a silver spoon in their mouth and have dinner with some of the most powerful people in the country on a regular basis.