Neil Cavuto: Worst Intervierer Ever (Ron Paul)

Ardentfrost · 12-19-2007, 11:47 PM

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Ok, so, he spends about 3-4 minutes asking RP about some silly "Do voters fall for warm and fuzzy ads" questions. Then he spends the rest of the interview asking RP why he didn't send back $500 donated by some white supremest. What a waste.

RP handles himself well though. I think in the back of his mind he wanted to say something like "... wait... what? Are you fucking retarded?"

Thorgrim · 12-19-2007, 11:55 PM

I still think he handled that poorly, the white supremicist thing, its politcs, you have to play the game, give the $500 back...it's not like they send off someone's check to an ad company...its part of one big treasure chest and he could legitimately give it back without saying he was giving him "someone elses money"

If he gains any steam the GOP is going to unload on him on a conservative's view the a soulja moment...where they reject stormfront to look moderate and make Paul look silly when they all gang up on them

silly to the average voter, remember these are truck drivers and janitors voting, not political scientists

JaJae · 12-19-2007, 11:57 PM

Shitty interview, but Paul should have given the money back.

JaJae · 12-19-2007, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

I still think he handled that poorly, the white supremicist thing, its politcs, you have to play the game, give the $500 back...it's not like they send off someone's check to an ad company...its part of one big treasure chest and he could legitimately give it back without saying he was giving him "someone elses money"

I agree. It's a matter of integrity to me.

motivez · 12-20-2007, 12:04 AM

Why is he spending so much time on some bullshit like that warm fuzzy ad crap instead of talking about something relevant?

I thought his answer was spot on.. it's a good point that I hadn't thought about before. He's accepting money to put forth his views, not the views of the person who donates to him. Giving it back to let him spend advancing his own agenda would be more like promoting the views of the person who sent it in the first place.

Thorgrim · 12-20-2007, 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by motivez

Why is he spending so much time on some bullshit like that warm fuzzy ad crap instead of talking about something relevant?

I thought his answer was spot on.. it's a good point that I hadn't thought about before. He's accepting money to put forth his views, not the views of the person who donates to him. Giving it back to let him spend advancing his own agenda would be more like promoting the views of the person who sent it in the first place.

I agree it's a good point, but I think it goes over the head of your average republican or democratic voter when reduced to a soundbyte

motivez · 12-20-2007, 12:55 AM

Probably, yeah. But I think Paul is a candidate for people who are more interested in politics than your average person. He's not a soundbyte politician, he needs time to explain his views, I like that a lot.

I don't think it has anything to do with his integrity.

hsmith · 12-20-2007, 12:49 PM

the most they have on Ron Paul is a guy that runs a website donated him $500

amazing.

Chalk this up as another amazing non-issue. Big fucking deal. The guy has EVERY right to donate and participate in the electoral process as the next person.

I don't agree at all with his personal beliefs, but he has every right to do so.

hsmith · 12-20-2007, 12:56 PM

I find it astounding people get their pants in a wad over a whole $500, but don't say one thing over the millions being donated by special interest who actually WILL get their legislation enacted by the "top tier" candidates if they win.

JaJae · 12-20-2007, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

Probably, yeah. But I think Paul is a candidate for people who are more interested in politics than your average person. He's not a soundbyte politician, he needs time to explain his views, I like that a lot.

I don't think it has anything to do with his integrity.

I think he makes a very good point and I don't hold it against him per se, but I think he's wrong. When somebody donates to your campaign it goes into your campaign fund. His campaign could very easily return the money. Odds are it was an internet donation which would have made it even easier to just refund the transaction. It would take an employee two seconds. He made it seem like he didn't know who the person was. The story broke, I'm sure he was informed and the idea of returning it was presented to him. And I think he should have. This guy is one of the worst people in America for race-relations and he is giving Paul money because he feels Paul is the best candidate to advance his cause. It would show a lot of character and integrity if Paul returned the money. It says, "Sorry, I don't agree with what you stand for and therefore can't accept your money."

If I were in Paul's shoes I would have returned the money even if only I had known and even if the media wouldn't have made an issue of it. I just think it's the right thing to do.

JaJae · 12-20-2007, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by hsmith

I find it astounding people get their pants in a wad over a whole $500, but don't say one thing over the millions being donated by special interest who actually WILL get their legislation enacted by the "top tier" candidates if they win.

This stormfront guy is a special interest technically. Whether or not Paul will honor his $500 donation to legislate for him I would disagree with. But just because special interests donate to say Obama doesn't mean he will necessarily vote in their favor either. I think they should be treated the same, regardless of whether or not we believe the money would be put to special interest legislation.

Ardentfrost · 12-20-2007, 02:37 PM

Lol, he's not special interest. He's some random guy with his own beliefs, just as I am. Let's say I think child labor is ok (which isn't COMPLETELY untrue)... I've donated $200 to RP, does that mean in order to "earn" the $200 I gave him he should look to allowing child labor?

Now let's look at how much money the financial industry has donated to Hilary Clinton. If she's elected, how much do you think she'll be expected to "earn" their money?

Just for a point of reference, the financial industry has donated over $12 million and that's not including the current quarter. <sarcasm> I have no idea how they're able to get so much legislation passed that helps them out </sarcasm>

JaJae · 12-21-2007, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

Lol, he's not special interest. He's some random guy with his own beliefs, just as I am. Let's say I think child labor is ok (which isn't COMPLETELY untrue)... I've donated $200 to RP, does that mean in order to "earn" the $200 I gave him he should look to allowing child labor?

That depends. This guy was the grand wizard of the KKK and leads quite possibly the largest social venue for racists and white supremacists in the nation. If you were one of the biggest people in the nation in terms of child labor i would think he should return your money as well.

Ardentfrost · 12-21-2007, 07:31 AM

I would agree with you only if the guy was a "big" donor, or orchestrated LOTS of people donating to RP for THEIR cause. Instead, it was just one guy donating a mere $500 to a candidate he agrees with. RP doesn't have to promote white supremacy for the guy to agree with him on other points.

JaJae · 12-21-2007, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

I would agree with you only if the guy was a "big" donor, or orchestrated LOTS of people donating to RP for THEIR cause. Instead, it was just one guy donating a mere $500 to a candidate he agrees with. RP doesn't have to promote white supremacy for the guy to agree with him on other points.

The amount of the donation doesn't matter to me, it's the principle. Even if it was $2 I would think he should give it back.

Ardentfrost · 12-21-2007, 10:09 AM

lol, yeah. Luckily the world isn't run by your unreasonable ideas. The guy wasn't donating to RP to get his own opinions heard, it was donating because he agreed with what RP had to say. There's such a huge difference between that and a donation expecting a return, my mind just blew up thinking about it.

JaJae · 12-21-2007, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

lol, yeah. Luckily the world isn't run by your unreasonable ideas. The guy wasn't donating to RP to get his own opinions heard, it was donating because he agreed with what RP had to say. There's such a huge difference between that and a donation expecting a return, my mind just blew up thinking about it.

To each his own I guess. If I were a candidate running for office and I found out this guy gave me money I'd send it right back. I wouldn't want it.

Ardentfrost · 12-21-2007, 10:29 AM

I've always complained that the candidates are too focuses on appearances than the issues. Accepting some minute sum of money (in the grand scheme of things) from a 1-off nutjob is no indication of personal beliefs. Not near as much as accepting millions from an industry expecting compensation.

kinggovernor · 12-21-2007, 10:30 AM

$500 dollars, wtf.