Iowa this week, what are your predictions? - Page 10

motivez · 01-06-2008, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

Like I said before, you can't take other people's words for it (people like you who dislike it) to make a judgement.

And like I said before, they aren't relying on what I say to make their assessment, they've made their own based on their knowledge of how both systems work.

You're still making the assumption that I talked about earlier, and it's still an incorrect one.

Likewise, the logic you're using in your post would mean no one can comment on something they read about unless they've experienced it first hand.. despite knowledge about it.

I don't need to actually get chicken pox to know that I'm going to itch if I read up about the side effects prior to getting it.

Donkey® · 01-07-2008, 04:14 AM

So if Paul sucks in NH, is that the last we'll see posted about him?

Thorgrim · 01-07-2008, 04:18 AM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

So if Paul sucks in NH, is that the last we'll see posted about him?

3rd party run...however seeing as he only got 3% of the iowa vote, I don't see him getting more than 2% or so in a general election run

Ardentfrost · 01-07-2008, 08:57 AM

Democrats should be hoping for a 3rd party run

Y'all could get Hilary elected then!

Fed Up · 01-07-2008, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

3rd party run...however seeing as he only got 3% of the iowa vote, I don't see him getting more than 2% or so in a general election run

2%? With 10 more months of campaigning? Iowa is not the nation. Ron Paul's internet presence is spreading and given 10 more months of exposure will do nothing but exponentially grow for him. You can bet your last fiat dollar!

Don't sell Ron Paul short.

Fed Up

motivez · 01-07-2008, 12:02 PM

I don't think people are selling him short, they're just being less optimistic in their assessments than his die hard supporters are

hsmith · 01-07-2008, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by Fed Up

2%? With 10 more months of campaigning? Iowa is not the nation. Ron Paul's internet presence is spreading and given 10 more months of exposure will do nothing but exponentially grow for him. You can bet your last fiat dollar!

Don't sell Ron Paul short.

Fed Up

lets not forget Ron Paul campaigned exactly as much as Rudy did and got more votes

motivez · 01-07-2008, 12:30 PM

Ron Paul spent the same amount of time in Iowa as Rudy? Link?

Rudy has been waiting for Florida and some of the later states, I thought Iowa was one of the states where Paul had spent quite a bit of time and money.

hsmith · 01-07-2008, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

Ron Paul spent the same amount of time in Iowa as Rudy? Link?

Rudy has been waiting for Florida and some of the later states, I thought Iowa was one of the states where Paul had spent quite a bit of time and money.

It was in the post or something, I'll have to look for it.

It was posted on the campaign blog as well ( Ron Paul 2008: Thank you! )

Ardentfrost · 01-07-2008, 12:57 PM

It was posted in this very thread a couple pages ago.

Thorgrim · 01-07-2008, 03:02 PM

yeah but ron paul bought ads and spent more energy...compared to Rudy who completely abandoned the state and was practically asking his name be taken off the ballot

Fed Up · 01-07-2008, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

yeah but ron paul bought ads and spent more energy...compared to Rudy who completely abandoned the state and was practically asking his name be taken off the ballot

because he knew that solicitation of the Evangelical vote was a waste of his time...

Fed Up

Fed Up · 01-07-2008, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

I don't think people are selling him short, they're just being less optimistic in their assessments than his die hard supporters are

I won't discuss anymore the relevance of someone saying that Paul will poll 2%. I'll let the polls do the talking.

Fed Up

hsmith · 01-07-2008, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by Fed Up

I won't discuss anymore the relevance of someone saying that Paul will poll 2%. I'll let the polls do the talking.

Fed Up

YOu could post the video to show how mad Frank Luntz gets when his false polling methods are exposed

Firedoglake - Firedoglake weblog » Ron Paul Supporters Confront Frank Luntz

lew · 01-07-2008, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

yeah but ron paul bought ads and spent more energy...compared to Rudy who completely abandoned the state and was practically asking his name be taken off the ballot

Paul spent less money and less time in Iowa than Giuliani.

hsmith · 01-07-2008, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by lew

Paul spent less money and less time in Iowa than Giuliani.

Ron Paul is a spoiler

RockPusher · 01-08-2008, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by hsmith

Ron Paul is a spoiler

I don't understand this concept. Please explain to me exactly WHAT Ron Paul is spoiling.

As I see the concept of democratic elections, the people vote their conscience by expressing their support for the superior candidate. If that is not correct, just what exactly is the intent of the democratic process?

Donkey® · 01-11-2008, 04:21 AM

So where are we with the Paulwagon now? Can we retire it for good?

lew · 01-11-2008, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

So where are we with the Paulwagon now? Can we retire it for good?

Nope. He will still win at least one primary, somewhere.

And I'm still voting for him.

Like I've already stated, I was already on the bandwagon before it started and I'll continue to be on it.

David Octavius · 01-11-2008, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by lew

Nope. He will still win at least one primary, somewhere.

How is he going to win one primary? He has not even placed top 4 yet and did worse in NH then Iowa (8% vs 10%)

John Edwards will have a hard time winning a primary - his home state is no lock - and he has done much better in these primaries so far than RP