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Old 12-31-2007, 05:43 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
Well, Huckabee's lead is dwindling, but I think the conservative Christian crowd is more likely to turn out for him than Romney.. they've made the difference in the past, if they don't turn out in expected numbers, Huckabee could easily fall off to second or third

Today Huckabee showed the Press a Comercial that he will "not" run to show the press he is above running a negative attack comercial!
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Old 12-31-2007, 05:54 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
People said the same thing about Dean "oh don't worry about falling poll numbers, the young people love him!"

young people didn't even turn out in 2004, and what university wasn't full of Bush haters?
True. I HOPE this is different than Dean, who was also marginalized in the media after his "WOO" thing... of course, that's similar to RP being marginalized in the media as a nutjob It may end up being the same, but I hope not.
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Old 01-01-2008, 01:36 AM   #23
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Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
Today Huckabee showed the Press a Comercial that he will "not" run to show the press he is above running a negative attack comercial!
Isn't that something? And he's getting some headlines that say "Huckabee takes the high road" when he did nothing of the sort!

This is a tough one to predict, but I'll go out on a limb.

Dems:
1. Obama
2. Edwards
3. Clinton

Repubs:
1. Huckabee
2. Romney
3. McCain

I hope I'm wrong and Paul makes a top 3 showing.

I think all the other supporters of the non-top three Dems will choose Edwards or Obama, so Hillary might make a surprisingly weak third place finish. It's just a hunch I have.
 
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Old 01-01-2008, 07:23 PM   #24
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Check this prediction:

Will Fred finish ahead of Ron Paul in Iowa?

Answer: Probably. The new CNN poll has him five points ahead of Paul and three ahead of McCain, good for third place. Our new leader? Mitt, by three over Huck. Which is within the margin of error.
 
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Old 01-01-2008, 07:30 PM   #25
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I also think Paul is going to have a much better voter turnout that will help him score higher than what the polls are showing.
 
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Old 01-02-2008, 11:30 AM   #26
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My top three projection on the republican side:

Romney
Paul
Huckabee

I would hope the christian conservatives have done their homework and realize Huckabee is pro amnesty for criminal immigrants; although he does his best to dress it up a bit. Also, I hope they have learned that Huckabee has misrepresented the fact he has a theology degree. If a candidate will lie about that, he will lie about anything !!

Paul's supporters are loyal and devoted. They will sit through a hurricane to have their voice heard.

Of all the CFR sponsored candidates, Romney will probably pull it out.


On the Demo side I take top three as:

Edwards
Obama
Clinton

I think Iowans will recognize Clinton is the easiest candidate to beat in the general. There are so many skeletons in the Clinton closet, there will be one scandal after another. Obama and Clinton are ready to sell your soul to get the votes of illegal criminal immigrants... but Edwards has successfully side stepped the issue of amnesty and might just pull it off for that reason.
 
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Old 01-02-2008, 02:40 PM   #27
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Novak predicts:

Republicans

1st Place: Mitt Romney
2nd Place: Mike Huckabee
3rd Place: Fred Thompson
4th Place: John McCain

Democrats

1st Place: Barack Obama
2nd Place: John Edwards
3rd Place: Hillary Clinton
4th Place: Bill Richardson
 
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Old 01-02-2008, 02:56 PM   #28
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Originally Posted by hsmith View Post
probably should be in the election forum, if you want it moved, move it

R:
1) Huckabee
2) Paul
3) Romney

D:
1) Obama
2) Hillary
3) Edwards

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I think the democrat side will be about like that. It might be close.

\I think the GOP side will be different.


1) Romney
2) Huckabee
3) McCain
4) Guliani ( sp?)
5) Paul
6) Tancredo

Or something pretty close to that.

edit: Crap I left out Thompson... Hmm ...McCain / Thompson will be close. Not sure
 
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Old 01-02-2008, 04:04 PM   #29
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Originally Posted by thatguyoverthere View Post
Isn't that something? And he's getting some headlines that say "Huckabee takes the high road" when he did nothing of the sort!

This is a tough one to predict, but I'll go out on a limb.

Dems:
1. Obama
2. Edwards
3. Clinton

Repubs:
1. Huckabee
2. Romney
3. McCain

I think that is a fairly good prediction. The only catch is that Democrats in Iowa allow switch voting as some candidates fall behind in the first round. Much will depend on who those people vote as a second choice? I don't think Hillary will be it for many of them.
 
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Old 01-02-2008, 04:07 PM   #30
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I wonder if Biden will get a jump in the polls by pointing out another candidates "Foot in Mouth?"

January 2, 2008
Biden highlights Clinton Pakistan gaffe
Posted: 02:35 PM ET

Biden got tough on Clinton over her recent comments on Pakistan.




(CNN) — Democrat Joe Biden suggested Tuesday that presidential rival Hillary Clinton doesn't adequately understand recent events in Pakistan.
The Delaware senator was responding to news that Clinton suggested in two recent interviews that Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf is up for reelection this month.

Musharraf was actually reelected in October, and the upcoming Pakistani elections are parliamentary, not presidential.

"We have a number of candidates who are well-intentioned but don't understand Pakistan," Biden said at a campaign event Tuesday. "One of the leading candidates — God love her."

"There are good people running," continued the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, who has made his foreign policy credentials a centerpiece of his long shot presidential bid. "But to say Musharraf is up for election! Musharraf was elected — fairly or unfairly — president six months ago. It's about a parliamentary election!"

Clinton's comments came in an interview with ABC Sunday, in which she said, "[Musharraf] could be the only person on the ballot. I don't think that's a real election."

The New York senator also made similar comments during an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer last week, saying then, ""If President Musharraf wishes to stand for election, then he should abide by the same rules that every other candidate will have to follow."

Both gaffes were first noted by conservative Thomas Houlahan, writing for the Middle East Times.

The Clinton campaign has not yet returned a request for comment on Biden's comments, but said yesterday the New York Democrat was referring to Musharraf's party, not himself in particular.

CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - Biden highlights Clinton Pakistan gaffe « - Blogs from CNN.com


 
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That story should get more air time than it has been getting. She completely got the entire political aspect of Pakistan wrong in many ways this past week. Over and over again she has blundered in her speech of Pakistan mixing up her facts and just completely talking out of her ass all the while preaching about her experience and not needing on the job training.
 
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Biden doesn't seem bad from the democrat perspective, from what I have read.
 
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
I also think Paul is going to have a much better voter turnout that will help him score higher than what the polls are showing.
Thousands Switch Parties: Is There A Primary Reason? - News - MSNBC.com

Paul has a lot going for him.

Just if he ca nturn it into votes. As motivz said, I haven't heard much about the footwork in Iowa either.

We will see what happens I guess tomorrow.
 
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Originally Posted by hsmith View Post
Biden doesn't seem bad from the democrat perspective, from what I have read.
I'm reading his book. I like Biden.
 
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Old 01-02-2008, 07:39 PM   #36
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Originally Posted by hsmith View Post
Biden doesn't seem bad from the democrat perspective, from what I have read.

I thought it Ironic that Biden of all people was the one to jump on the Clinton Pakistan remark. The rest are holding their tounges about anything that looks to negative these days.
 
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Old 01-02-2008, 07:41 PM   #37
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
That story should get more air time than it has been getting.

If Bush said anything like this it would have!


How long before the "idiot" remarks would stop?
 
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Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
I thought it Ironic that Biden of all people was the one to jump on the Clinton Pakistan remark.
That's because he reads this.

The rest are holding their tounges about anything that looks to negative these days.
The rest don't know anything about Pakistan either.
 
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
The rest don't know anything about Pakistan either.
We're also not running for office. Any research I do in 10 minutes that allows me to form an opinion about it can validate an position. They, on the other hand, are privy to information we don't even have.
 
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Originally Posted by Ardentfrost View Post
We're also not running for office. Any research I do in 10 minutes that allows me to form an opinion about it can validate an position. They, on the other hand, are privy to information we don't even have.
They are in a political campaign, and anything can be used to make yourself look better than the other candidate. She doesn't know general information about Pakistan. The candidates could have used that for their benefit. They didn't. They didn't because they didn't know she said something wrong.

I'm not sure what you're arguing here...if you're arguing anything at all.
 
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