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Old 01-07-2008, 03:34 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by hsmith View Post
You Decide 08! » Clinton Feels Heat, Lashes Out at Obama Ahead of New Hampshire Primary


Hillary cries on the campaign trail. Thats what we need, a President of the free world that can not control her emotions
Seems to me she almost cried and it was over how much she loves her country not over the stress of the campaign..we could use more people who put the love of our nation first over politics and self interest
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Old 01-07-2008, 03:42 PM   #42
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Originally Posted by David Octavius View Post
Seems to me she almost cried and it was over how much she loves her country not over the stress of the campaign..we could use more people who put the love of our nation first over politics and self interest
I agree, which is why I'm not voting for Hillary.
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Old 01-07-2008, 03:49 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
I agree, which is why I'm not voting for Hillary.
She wants to be President, not lead America.
 
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Old 01-07-2008, 03:59 PM   #44
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
I agree, which is why I'm not voting for Hillary.
But you're voting for Obama, you've been raving about how good a candidate he is forever
 
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Old 01-07-2008, 04:07 PM   #45
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
But you're voting for Obama, you've been raving about how good a candidate he is forever
i thought Jajae was republican?
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Old 01-07-2008, 04:08 PM   #46
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Originally Posted by Linzyhop View Post
i thought Jajae was republican?
Mostly Independent, I'm not registered Democrat or Republican but I usually vote Democrat despite having a lot of conservative ideals. If Obama gets the nomination I'd vote for him over any Republican right now other than Paul at which point I'd have a lot of thinking to do...
 
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Old 01-07-2008, 04:41 PM   #47
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
Mostly Independent, I'm not registered Democrat or Republican but I usually vote Democrat despite having a lot of conservative ideals. If Obama gets the nomination I'd vote for him over any Republican right now other than Paul at which point I'd have a lot of thinking to do...
Not to sway you one way or the other JaJae...

From an Iraq war standpoint, do you find it interesting that Obama (and Clinton) said he would bring the troops home by 2013 (which is during his "hopeful" second term as president)?

Paul would bring them home as quickly as possible.

I just love how politicians play the game.

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Old 01-07-2008, 04:45 PM   #48
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Originally Posted by Fed Up View Post
Not to sway you one way or the other JaJae...

From an Iraq war standpoint, do you find it interesting that Obama (and Clinton) said he would bring the troops home by 2013 (which is during his "hopeful" second term as president)?

Paul would bring them home as quickly as possible.

I just love how politicians play the game.

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Not that I'm an Obama supporter, but he does say that all combat troops will be out within 2 years and there will be no permanent military bases. I don't know how you can withdraw any faster or more completely without totally abdicating our responsibility to clean up the mess we made or allowing the whole area to go to hell in a handbasket.
 
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Old 01-07-2008, 05:22 PM   #49
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Not that I'm an Obama supporter, but he does say that all combat troops will be out within 2 years and there will be no permanent military bases. I don't know how you can withdraw any faster or more completely without totally abdicating our responsibility to clean up the mess we made or allowing the whole area to go to hell in a handbasket.
I concur it won't be done in an immediate fashion, but Obama seems to be flipflopping a bit on the issue:

2013 is too late | Barack Obama on 2013

and now:

December 2007 Obama will have troops out in 2 1/2 to 3 years: Obama: troops out in two to three years - First Read - msnbc.com

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Old 01-07-2008, 06:29 PM   #50
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Originally Posted by David Octavius View Post
Seems to me she almost cried and it was over how much she loves her country not over the stress of the campaign..we could use more people who put the love of our nation first over politics and self interest.

You really buy that?

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Old 01-07-2008, 06:38 PM   #51
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
I agree, which is why I'm not voting for Hillary.






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Old 01-07-2008, 06:47 PM   #52
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Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
You really buy that?

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I buy into that fact that most US politicians are not as evil as the media or the other political party would like us to think...not Hillary, not GWB. That these people genuinely love our country and there is nothing wrong with it.

That being said, they may love our country but what they want to do may not be the right course of action, I don't agree with GWB nor do I agree with Hillary - I would not vote for her. I just think its disingenuous to paint someone in just one shade as some evil bitch that wants make us into some socialist state and hates freedom...maybe for that one moment, when she almost cried talking about our country was because she actually cared at that moment.Why does everything have to be an agenda? I can believe that and still not vote for her
 
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Old 01-07-2008, 07:13 PM   #53
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there's nothing wrong with being passionate about something

she obviously feels strongly about something. i don't see how that can be made to be a bad thing
 
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Old 01-07-2008, 07:27 PM   #54
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Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM View Post
there's nothing wrong with being passionate about something

she obviously feels strongly about something. i don't see how that can be made to be a bad thing
She feels strongly about not losing.
 
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Old 01-07-2008, 07:31 PM   #55
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
She feels strongly about not losing.
If you turn up the volume you can just about hear the gears whirring behind the facial facade........

0:00, begin speech
0:22, hug mic to appear passionate
0:48, cue tears
0:54, PULL BACK, PULL BACK! TOO MUCH EMOTION!
1:10, tell those damn hand automatons I said VOICE cracks, not finger crack!
1:12, remove finger from pantsuit zipper
1:43, end tape, don't forget to oil and lube the "reach in their wallets" organ
 
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Old 01-07-2008, 08:03 PM   #56
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Originally Posted by 7960 View Post
If you turn up the volume you can just about hear the gears whirring behind the facial facade........

0:00, begin speech
0:22, hug mic to appear passionate
0:48, cue tears
0:54, PULL BACK, PULL BACK! TOO MUCH EMOTION!
1:10, tell those damn hand automatons I said VOICE cracks, not finger crack!
1:12, remove finger from pantsuit zipper
1:43, end tape, don't forget to oil and lube the "reach in their wallets" organ
holy shit man that's hilarious
 
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Old 01-07-2008, 08:05 PM   #57
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
She feels strongly about not losing.
i get it... you hate her.
 
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Old 01-07-2008, 08:44 PM   #58
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Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM View Post
i get it... you hate her.
Hate is a strong word. I'd consider myself in the category of half the Americans who dislike her. I have a lot of company.
 
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Old 01-07-2008, 08:45 PM   #59
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
Hate is a strong word. I'd consider myself in the category of half the Americans who dislike her. I have a lot of company.
i'm in the other half i guess... the ones who dislike rudy and a couple of others
 
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Old 01-07-2008, 09:55 PM   #60
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Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM View Post
there's nothing wrong with being passionate about something

she obviously feels strongly about something. i don't see how that can be made to be a bad thing
Except when it's Bush who's the passionate one.
 
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