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Old 01-10-2008, 09:30 AM   #21
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the only thing it's missing is timestamps to be sure he's lying about fox not reporting the denial
 
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Old 01-10-2008, 09:55 AM   #22
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Originally Posted by 7960 View Post


the only thing it's missing is timestamps to be sure he's lying about fox not reporting the denial
that's the first thing i thought of when i was watching it. depending how quickly olbermann did that bit, he could have been telling the truth.
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Old 01-10-2008, 10:35 AM   #23
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Originally Posted by 7960 View Post


the only thing it's missing is timestamps to be sure he's lying about fox not reporting the denial
nice deflection

let's try to keep this on topic here...i'm curious to know what olberman has to do with a fox fuckup? once again... a mistake, or a single report of an erroneous story is one thing, but REPEATEDLY REPORTING IT FOR HOURS AFTER AN OFFICIAL ON THE RECORD DENIAL is the lowest form of "journalism" i have ever seen or heard of
 
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Old 01-10-2008, 10:44 AM   #24
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Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM View Post
nice deflection

let's try to keep this on topic here...i'm curious to know what olberman has to do with a fox fuckup? once again... a mistake, or a single report of an erroneous story is one thing, but REPEATEDLY REPORTING IT FOR HOURS AFTER AN OFFICIAL ON THE RECORD DENIAL is the lowest form of "journalism" i have ever seen or heard of

how is that a deflection? i thought the same thing about olbermanns story?

it's an honest view of that video!
 
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Old 01-10-2008, 10:45 AM   #25
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Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM View Post
nice deflection

let's try to keep this on topic here...i'm curious to know what olberman has to do with a fox fuckup? once again... a mistake, or a single report of an erroneous story is one thing, but REPEATEDLY REPORTING IT FOR HOURS AFTER AN OFFICIAL ON THE RECORD DENIAL is the lowest form of "journalism" i have ever seen or heard of
You may as well go scream at a wall.

Most of these people are going to chalk this up to some kind of liberal conspiracy.
 
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Old 01-10-2008, 10:46 AM   #26
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Originally Posted by Linzyhop View Post
how is that a deflection? i thought the same thing about olbermanns story?

it's an honest view of that video!
I would like to see proof that fox retracted the story before that Olbermann was taped.
 
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Old 01-10-2008, 10:54 AM   #27
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Originally Posted by Scrum View Post
I would like to see proof that fox retracted the story before that Olbermann was taped.
they didn't.

i said earlier... fred barnes and brit hume were talking about the staff shakeup well after 8pm, when the precincts were reporting

it would be close, but i think the wall will give me slightly less intellectual dishonesty

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Old 01-10-2008, 11:02 AM   #28
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Originally Posted by Scrum View Post
I would like to see proof that fox retracted the story before that Olbermann was taped.
i'm not saying fox retracted the story, i'm saying i think Olbermann might have reported that fox didn't even say Begala denied it before Olbermann taped his bit. and after Olbermann taped his bit, then Fox started reporting that Begala denied it......
 
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Old 01-10-2008, 11:03 AM   #29
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Originally Posted by Linzyhop View Post
i'm not saying fox retracted the story, i'm saying i think Olbermann might have reported that fox didn't even say Begala denied it before Olbermann taped his bit. and after Olbermann taped his bit, then Fox started reporting that Begala denied it......
it you wanna get all technical and shit, they never mentioned begala by name... they just said they had denials
 
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Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM View Post
it you wanna get all technical and shit, they never mentioned begala by name... they just said they had denials
ummm thought they did.

eh whatever.
 
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Old 01-10-2008, 11:13 AM   #31
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Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
I actually saw some of the reporting on this story yesterday. As best as I can recall it involved a possible shakeup in the Clinton Capaign Staff and that a number of people might join, including James Carville, as possible paid or unpaid consultants. I don't even recall Begala as one of the names? It could have been, but it was certainly not a story about him! As I recall they made it clear the Clinton Camp denigned the story and in a later report none other than Terry McAuliffe was on Fox saying they would welcome anyone on board but denied a shakeup.

In short this sound like Begala making himself self-important in order to take a swipe ay Fox News.



But knowing how the mere mention of Fox drives people into a frenzy on the board I am sure this "much ado about nothing" will go on for many pages........
Need we even have a pissing contest about all the other media outlets that post false stories?

It happens all the time in journalism, no matter the media outlet. Shall we go back to the days of the NYT when they continued to promote that guy who lied in ALL of his stories, despite knowing they were false? I can't even remember his name now...

For anyone to focus on FNC as if it's some dreadful entity is just childish.
 
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Old 01-10-2008, 11:17 AM   #32
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Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM View Post
nice deflection
What are you talking about?

No timestamps means someone can watch the video and say "he's not lying, Fox must have said 'it's officially denied' *after* olberman said they're not reporting the denial."

let's try to keep this on topic here...i'm curious to know what olberman has to do with a fox fuckup? once again... a mistake, or a single report of an erroneous story is one thing, but REPEATEDLY REPORTING IT FOR HOURS AFTER AN OFFICIAL ON THE RECORD DENIAL is the lowest form of "journalism" i have ever seen or heard of
They reported the denial. There's also a LOT of precedence for people "officially" denying something until it's "officially" announced. There's also Begala himself saying
KING: Are you therefore a non-paid consultant?

CARVILLE: Yes,
So this is square on topic..........talk about deflection
 
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Old 01-10-2008, 11:18 AM   #33
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
Need we even have a pissing contest about all the other media outlets that post false stories?

It happens all the time in journalism, no matter the media outlet. Shall we go back to the days of the NYT when they continued to promote that guy who lied in ALL of his stories, despite knowing they were false? I can't even remember his name now...

For anyone to focus on FNC as if it's some dreadful entity is just childish.

feel free to make a thread about all of those other fake news stories that have been aired hours after being officially denied. until then, this thread is reserved for comments/questions on FOX FUCKING UP
 
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Old 01-10-2008, 11:19 AM   #34
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Originally Posted by Scrum View Post
I would like to see proof that fox retracted the story before that Olbermann was taped.
nice deflection

let's try to keep this on topic here...









You saying "before" is exactly why I said I'd like to see times for when those were aired.
 
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Old 01-10-2008, 11:19 AM   #35
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Originally Posted by 7960 View Post
What are you talking about?

No timestamps means someone can watch the video and say "he's not lying, Fox must have said 'it's officially denied' *after* olberman said they're not reporting the denial."

They reported the denial. There's also a LOT of precedence for people "officially" denying something until it's "officially" announced. There's also Begala himself saying
KING: Are you therefore a non-paid consultant?

CARVILLE: Yes,
So this is square on topic..........talk about deflection


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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
For anyone to focus on FNC as if it's some dreadful entity is just childish.
And for someone who's only defense is to keep saying "well other news agencies are bias too" instead of either making their own thread to show its just as bad or not post in Fox News threads at all is even more childish

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Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM View Post
feel free to make a thread about all of those other fake news stories that have been aired hours after being officially denied. until then, this thread is reserved for comments/questions on FOX FUCKING UP
Why should we? We don't care. It's par for the course in journalism.

It's the FNC hating freaks that continue to bash a media outlet for doing something wrong on occasion, as if they're the only ones.

It's quite pathetic really. And I AM talking about FNC, and why nobody really cares, nor should they.

Rathergate is another one. You really don't want me to flood the forum with stories about how much liberal media lied. I'd probably get banned for it.

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Originally Posted by David Octavius View Post
And for someone who's only defense is to keep saying "well other news agencies are bias too" instead of either making their own thread to show its just as bad or not post in Fox News threads at all is even more childish

Like I said, we don't have a seething hatred for the other outlets like people have for FNC.

So FNC has a conservative bias...it's what made them bank. So other outlets have a liberal bias...it's what they're used to.

Who really cares?
 
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