Conspiracy theory: Jews own the US media / Is this forum pro-Zionist?

[DavidHenry]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

I wonder how/why Judaism ever came to be the most hated religion by so many. Is it because they are God's chosen people?

You must understand that being an Australian{typically living in Brisbane rather than Sydney or Melbourne, but I lived in Melbourne for a few yrs}, I rarely meet any Jews, although the last Jew I met was an atheist and he struck me as being very intelligent....in fact I quite liked him....and that's why I consider it appropriate to define a Jew as anyone who actively supports Judaism, Zionism and Israel, IOW, I don't hate the average Jew/Christian even though I reject all religion.

[DavidHenry]

Originally Posted by DosEquis

I would stop giving billions of dollars to israel and stop putting our nose in that region... while at the same time diverting our energy and resources to alternative energy so we can just avoid that region entirely.
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Sounds like a good start

[thatguyoverthere]

Interesting thread. It bothers me too, I'm glad to see that I'm not alone.

Originally Posted by DavidHenry

the wickedness of attempting to halt the flood of non-White aliens pouring across our borders, the danger of permitting citizens to keep and bear arms, the moral equivalence of all sexual orientations, and the desirability of a "pluralistic," cosmopolitan society rather than a homogeneous, White one.

Exactly who or what in the media is giving you the impression that is is "wicked" not to halt the flood of illegal immigrants across our borders? Talk radio is dominated by non Jewish voices, and everyone I hear in the media is expressing concern about illegal immigration. It's one of the most hotly debated topics in this primary season, with barely anyone being pro. In fact, the most successful candidates seem to be the ones that are the toughest on illegal immigration, not the ones who are the softest. Also, being soft on illegal immigration in even the tiniest ways is seen as a major negative in a candidate. A major news anchor on CNN (considered by many to be a left-leaning news network) by the name of Lou Dobbs is a very prominent voice who is absolutely fixated on stopping illegal immigration. Finally, I personally have never met anyone that has spoken about the recent immigration trends and not expressed serious concern about it. I don't see pro-illegal immigration messages in the media, and I certainly don't see a pro-illegal immigration attitude in our citizens, at least anyone that I've ever talked to. So, who in the US media is giving you the impression that it is "wicked" not to stop illegal immigration?

Also, your post about Rupert Murdoch's heritage is disturbing. There are unconfirmed rumors about Hitler's heritage too. It seems to me that only people with deep fixations on race care so deeply about the meaning of unconfirmed rumors of other peoples heritages.

Finally, your continual insistence on capitalizing "White" is a big red flag too. (Or should I say Red flag?) I believe the race is considered to be Caucasian, which is proper to capitalize, as would be African-American. Colors like red, blue, green, yellow, black and white are not normally capitalized. Would you refer to all Asians as "Yellows"? That would clearly be racist, IMO.

[DavidHenry]

Originally Posted by thatguyoverthere

Interesting thread. It bothers me too, I'm glad to see that I'm not alone.
That would clearly be racist, IMO.

FYI, the article was written a few yrs ago, and no doubt people's attitudes towards the influx of illegals is changing fast, but none of that changes the fact about media dominance by people of Jewish extraction, nor the absurdity of the war in Iraq{unless we accept Israel as the major beneficiary}

Btw, I don't judge people by race, I judge them by mentality/ideology, also, I don't consider Jewish to be a race, rather, an ethnicity.

[Fed Up]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Stalin was not worse than Hitler, making stupid unrealistic goals and then being surronded by yes-men who tell you everything is going great does not make you the epitome of evil, his victims died of starvation from poor planning, not industrialized killing facilities...

If Hitler had peace time from 1945-1953, 8 years, he could have killed 80 million people easily, without starvation, but by taking everything they ever had, and then shoving them into shower rooms while they were gassed

Stalin was paranoid and ruthless, Hitler was a genocidal purist who would have turned on the slavs after the Jews, if England had gone done in 1940, and the Soviet Empire collapsed afterwards, there is no reason to argue he would not have killed hundreds of millions, and then handed it off to people like Heydrich, who probably would have lived until at least 1970...

Much of what you say is speculation Thorgrim....

However, the answer as to who was worst, Stalin or Hitler, I would say, is a rather moot issue overall. I don't think we are taught much about Stalin in our school textbooks, because he was our ally in WWII (even though he attacked Poland and Finland, which doesn't get discussed much):

The Economist magazine says Stalin was worst:

Millennium issue: Hitler and Stalin | The heights of evil | Economist.com

Found this to be a good debate on the question: America's Debate > Hitler versus Stalin


Fed Up

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by DavidHenry

You must understand that being an Australian{typically living in Brisbane rather than Sydney or Melbourne, but I lived in Melbourne for a few yrs}, I rarely meet any Jews, although the last Jew I met was an atheist and he struck me as being very intelligent....in fact I quite liked him....and that's why I consider it appropriate to define a Jew as anyone who actively supports Judaism, Zionism and Israel, IOW, I don't hate the average Jew/Christian even though I reject all religion.

Even more mind-boggling.

Judaism is a religion. I don't believe in classifying a people as a race by their religion.

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by DavidHenry

1....Who was Sadam a threat to?, and what weapons, sticks and stones?

Saddam was a threat to us and those around Iraq. He supported terrorists without a doubt. He was a threat to our allies in the region (ie Kuwait)

2...for what purpose, Israel is already the ME superpower?

Israel =! the US Not all of our international strategy or policies include Israel, as much as you hate to know that.

3....so you think it's cool and cost effective to kill as many as a million people, and spend $400billion per year to secure energy....LOL

Since the dawn of civilization, energy has been the most sought after resource in the world. Since the dawn of time, energy has started war after war, and without energy, we are nothing. Yes, energy security means a hell of a lot. the DoE is the larget department in the US government.

[DavidHenry]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

Even more mind-boggling.

Judaism is a religion. I don't believe in classifying a people as a race by their religion.

So what if Judaism is a religion....what's your point?
Jews claim to be a distinct race, ie, they don't consider themselves to be white.

[DosEquis]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

Now now, that's no way to treat our allies, no matter the region they reside.

Allies? How come you are ok with giving them 30 billion in welfare, and with each year the figure continues to climb... but when someone wants to provide healthcare for children who don't have insurance its some terrible policy that is going to ruin our credit score with the world.

Personally i'd prefer a spending reduction but if the tax money is going to be spent, we should at least spend it on our own citizens.

Now now, its turning away our children from getting health treatments, when its not their fault they don't have insurance, is no way to treat our nations youth.

[Thorgrim]

I didn't bother reading the whole thing, but to suggest Hitler:
A) got his position legitimately
B) germany had any sort of "free and fair election" system in 1932

Is just silly

Then they start noting Stalin because he beat Hitler in battle...

And again, the old line that forced labor to feed other starving people that lead to starvation is just as evil as industrialized genocide...

IMO the author just doesn't like Stalin and made his opinion before he wrote anything, most likely he grew up in the 80s with big anti-communism movements...as the "evil empire" and never outgrew it

[7960]

Originally Posted by wx12

davidhenry is a racist, plain and simple.

while I agree with you, just slinging names isn't helpful.

how about you refute what he's saying?

[RMNIXON]

Originally Posted by Fed Up

The Economist magazine says Stalin was worst:

Millennium issue: Hitler and Stalin | The heights of evil | Economist.com

But the author does not like Stalin!

[Fed Up]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

I didn't bother reading the whole thing....

....IMO the author just doesn't like Stalin and made his opinion before he wrote anything.

Nevermind...

[tbone]

Originally Posted by DavidHenry

Time Warner. The largest media conglomerate today is Time Warner (briefly called AOL-Time Warner; the AOL was dropped from the name when accounting practices at the AOL division were questioned by government investigators), which reached its current form when America Online bought Time Warner for $160 billion in 2000. The combined company had revenue of $39.5 billion in 2003. The merger brought together Steve Case, a Gentile, as chairman of AOL-Time Warner, and Gerald Levin, a Jew, as the CEO.

Warner, founded by the Jewish Warner brothers in the early part of the last century, rapidly became part of the Jewish power base in Hollywood, a fact so well-known that it is openly admitted by Jewish authors, as is the fact that each new media acquisition becomes dominated by Jews in turn: Speaking of the initial merger of Time, Inc. with Warner, Jewish writer Michael Wolff said in New York magazine in 2001 "since Time Inc.'s merger with Warner ten years ago, one of the interesting transitions is that it has become a Jewish company." ("From AOL to W," New York magazine, January 29, 2001)

About Murdock......Its Fox News Channel has been a key outlet pushing the Jewish neoconservative agenda that lies behind the Iraq War and which animates both the administration of George W. Bush and the "new conservatism" that embraces aggressive Zionism and multiracialism.

Murdoch is nominally a Gentile, but there is some uncertainty about his ancestry and he has vigorously supported Zionism and other Jewish causes throughout his life. (Historian David Irving has published information from a claimed high-level media source who says that Murdoch's mother, Elisabeth Joy Greene, was Jewish, but we have not been able to confirm this.) Murdoch's number two executive is Peter Chernin, who is president and chief operating officer—and a Jew.

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Back on topic.....why are people pretending that Jews don't dominate the US mass media?
Also, when we factor in Ruperts pro-Zionism, we've effectively got blanket coverage.

IMO, it's bad enough that any tiny minority{Jew=approx 3% of American pops} owns and controls the media and subsequently selects, promotes and supports politicians/Jewish policy, but we also have the stench of Zionism associated with Jews.

I guess you missed my point. The board of directors and shareholders own the company and hire and fire the CEO. The CEO of Time Warner is not the most powerful person at Time Warner. He doesn't control anything as he can be fired by his boss, the board, if they are unhappy with his/her agenda or job performance.

Time Warner was one of the few you actually gave a CEO example of as well, others on the website were lower in the company like "President of news."

The website is also out of date as some of those people listed are no longer employed by the company stated.

[DavidHenry]

Originally Posted by tbone

I guess you missed my point. The board of directors and shareholders own the company and hire and fire the CEO.

The website is also out of date as some of those people listed are no longer employed by the company stated.

IOW, you're going to pretend the dominance of Jews in powerful positions throughout the mass media doesn't exist.....congratulations, but facts are facts no matter how much you try and bullshit your way out of it.

The list proves that Jews own and control the US mass media, yes it might be a few yrs old, but you're now implying that most of the Jews are gone and have been replaced with gentiles......why don't you create a sig for yourself which reads something like this...."I love Jews/Zionism and I'll defned the Jew at every opportune moment".

I'm very suspicious of anyone who thinks nothing of learning that a tiny minority owns and controls the mass media, and this naturally leads to the selection, promotion and support of politicians, ie, you've got an Israel friendly Government aka ZOG.

[7960]

Originally Posted by DavidHenry

The list proves that Jews own and control the US mass media

That "list" doesn't do anything to prove your point. It list what, five people? And of those YOU say two are "gentile" and then there's an attempt to slide the old "but his *mother* could possibly might be considered by some to maybe be jewish." What does that prove?

I'm very suspicious of anyone who thinks nothing of learning that a tiny minority owns and controls the mass media, and this naturally leads to the selection, promotion and support of politicians, ie, you've got an Israel friendly Government aka ZOG.

And I'm very suspicious of anyone who hates jews just because they're jewish. I'm suspicious of someone who would say "jewish controlled media" and then admit "well murdoch isn't a jew but someone once said his mother is!!.........even though we don't know."

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by DosEquis

Allies? How come you are ok with giving them 30 billion in welfare, and with each year the figure continues to climb... but when someone wants to provide healthcare for children who don't have insurance its some terrible policy that is going to ruin our credit score with the world.

Personally i'd prefer a spending reduction but if the tax money is going to be spent, we should at least spend it on our own citizens.

Now now, its turning away our children from getting health treatments, when its not their fault they don't have insurance, is no way to treat our nations youth.

30 billion in welfare? What about all the other money we give to every other country in the world? Why complain only about Israel? What about the money we give to countries that aren't even our allies? If I were you, I'd have a bigger problem with that...

[DavidHenry]

Originally Posted by 7960

That "list" doesn't do anything to prove your point. It list what, five people? ."

AOL is the largest Internet service provider in the world, with 34 million U.S. subscribers. It is now being used as an online platform for the Jewish content from Time Warner. Jodi Kahn and Meg Siesfeld, both Jews, lead the Time Inc. Interactive team under executive editor Ned Desmond, a White Gentile. All three report to Time Inc. editor-in-chief Norman Pearlstine, a Jew

Time Warner's publishing division is managed by its editor-in-chief, Norman Pearlstine, a Jew. He controls 50 magazines including Time, Life, Sports Illustrated, and People. Book publishing ventures include Time-Life Books, Book-of-the-Month Club, Little Brown, and many others. Time Warner also owns Shoutcast and Winam