Conspiracy theory: Jews own the US media / Is this forum pro-Zionist?

[Dylith]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

30 billion in welfare? What about all the other money we give to every other country in the world? Why complain only about Israel? What about the money we give to countries that aren't even our allies? If I were you, I'd have a bigger problem with that...

I focus a lot on Israel because they are our largest reciever of aid outside of Iraq and Afghanistan.

I tend to talk about them more because we do support them and because they are our ally and because of the humanitarian crisis in which they are involved.

Also, for being such a large ally, I don't feel that Israel really stands for the same ideals that the US stands for.

[7960]

Originally Posted by DavidHenry

Hey loser, either read and comprehend the article

But see, this is the problem.....I'm not sure YOU do. Why won't you explain what "AOL is being used as an online platform for the jewish content from time warner" means?


Any my last question for you for the evening. When you get dinged for generally being belligerent....things like not answering questions, calling people names (not just me), etc....are you going to blame the jews for that, too?

[thatguyoverthere]

Originally Posted by DavidHenry

FYI, the article was written a few yrs ago, and no doubt people's attitudes towards the influx of illegals is changing fast, but none of that changes the fact about media dominance by people of Jewish extraction, nor the absurdity of the war in Iraq{unless we accept Israel as the major beneficiary}

Well, FYI, you should put your own thoughts into the initial post if you start a thread. It doesn't really help the discussion if we question you on the details of your post and you wave them off like it doesn't matter. Are you planning on dismissing every argument with the refrain "Doesn't change the fact that Jews run the media"? I find it difficult accept your conclusion when your establishing premises start off wrong.

And if Jews do indeed run the media, what do you propose that we do about it?

Originally Posted by DavidHenry

Btw, I don't judge people by race, I judge them by mentality/ideology, also, I don't consider Jewish to be a race, rather, an ethnicity.

Hmm... If you don't consider Jewish to be a race, then why did you post this?:

Originally Posted by DavidHenry

Which race controls the media in your view?

[DavidHenry]

Originally Posted by 7960

But see, this is the problem.....I'm not sure YOU do. Why won't you explain what "AOL is being used as an online platform for the jewish content from time warner" means?

You're acting like you've got everybody onboard, you seem to think anyone with half a brain's going to support your blatant intellectual dishonesty.....in fact, most times, people admit that Jews do own and control the mass media, they just question the relevance, yet here you are denying the unmistakable fact that Jews own and dominate the mass media, and by extension select, promote and support politicians.

Hurry and up and admit to the obvious if you value your credibility in this forum.

[DavidHenry]

Originally Posted by thatguyoverthere

"Doesn't change the fact that Jews run the media"? I find it difficult accept your conclusion when your establishing premises start off wrong.

Mate, if you're too stupid to either read the article or comprehend it, that's not my fault, I'm just the messenger, and the message is loud and clear, Jews own and control the mass media whether you like it or not.

[7960]

Originally Posted by DavidHenry

.....yet here you are denying the unmistakable......

Where did I deny anything?

Twice now you've ducked the question. Usually when someone does that it's because they don't know the answer. It sure seems that way to me. Is that true? And to take some of your words: Hurry and up and admit to the obvious if you value your credibility in this forum.

[7960]

Originally Posted by DavidHenry

Mate, if you're too stupid to either read the article or comprehend it, that's not my fault, I'm just the messenger, and the message is loud and clear, Jews own and control the mass media whether you like it or not.

So your answer, over and over, is going to be "because someone on the internet said so."

Excellent argument

[lew]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

Saddam was a threat to us and those around Iraq. He supported terrorists without a doubt. He was a threat to our allies in the region (ie Kuwait)

Oh please, that's complete crap.


Saddam was not a threat to us.

[DavidHenry]

Originally Posted by 7960

So your answer, over and over, is going to be "because someone on the internet said so."

Excellent argument

Why continue to deny the FACT that Jews own and operate the mass media?

[7960]

Originally Posted by DavidHenry

Why continue to deny the FACT that Jews own and operate the mass media?

PLEASE, show me where I've denied anything.







On a completely different note, why do your posts seem so familiar? I don't peruse any pro/anti-jewish websites but I swear I've read this stuff before.

[thatguyoverthere]

Originally Posted by DavidHenry

Mate, if you're too stupid to either read the article or comprehend it, that's not my fault, I'm just the messenger, and the message is loud and clear, Jews own and control the mass media whether you like it or not.

I read the article in your initial post. I certainly comprehend it. Heck, I own a copy of the Turner Diaries, so I'm quite familiar with the line of thinking that folks like you follow!

Why are you calling me stupid? You're the one who has avoided answering multiple questions from multiple forum members multiple times, and you are the one who declined to defend or explain your own message when repeatedly questioned about it. I'm merely asking you questions about what I view to be essential contradictions in your initial post that cause me to have serious doubt about how you (or how the article) reached its conclusions.

Who in the media says it is "wicked" to try and stop illegal immigration? I've been paying attention to American politics for twenty-five years now, and in all that time I've never heard ANY major media or political figure claim that illegal immigration is a good thing, and that trying to stop it would be "wicked." Your lame "it's a few years old" excuse just doesn't wash.

If you don't consider Jewishness to be a race, why did you ask "Which race controls the media in your view?" Why did you attempt to backtrack when you said you "don't consider Jewish to be a race?" Are you ashamed to be a racist and an anti-Semite? If you're a racist, just own up to it. It's quite obvious anyway. You already look like a racist. By denying it or hairsplitting the definition, you don't look any less like a racist. Actually, by denying it, all you do is look like a lying racist. (Hint: People who aren't actually racists don't go around posting links from white separatist organizations.)

IMHO the article is a bunch of paranoid racist garbage, and we've given you and your article much more polite courtesy and intelligent consideration than either one deserves. You've been belligerent and insulting to multiple long time members who have a heck of a lot more credibility on this forum than you probably ever will (if your posts to date are any indication.)

About the group behind the article in the initial post in this thread:

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National Alliance (United States)

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The National Alliance is a white nationalist and a white separatist organization. It was founded by William Luther Pierce, and is based in , West Virginia. Although it is based in the United States, the National Alliance claims to have members in various countries throughout the world. Membership is not based upon citizenship in any particular country, but on perceived white, gentile European ancestry. The National Alliance is often included in lists of neo-Nazi groups, in part due to its glorification of Adolf Hitler. For example, an article appearing in a 1989 issue of its magazine National Vanguard celebrated the 100th anniversary of Hitler's birth, declaring him "the greatest man of our era"
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[] History

Pierce founded the group in 1974. He was a former physics professor and the author of The Turner Diaries a novel about a white revolution in America, which he wrote under the pen name Andrew MacDonald. The National Alliance was reorganized from an earlier group: the National Youth Alliance (NYA). The NYA was formed out of the remains of Governor George Wallace's 1968 presidential campaign organization Youth for Wallace. The NYA broke into factions as a result of infighting, and Pierce gained control of the largest remnant in 1970 and continued the organization under that name until its reorganization in 1974. Pierce previously had been an associate of the assassinated leader of the American Nazi Party, George Lincoln Rockwell, and had been editor of the party's magazine, National Socialist World.
Pierce died of cancer on July 23, ,[1] and was succeeded as National Chairman by Erich Gliebe.[2] A few months later, the National Alliance had a small power-struggle with Billy Roper, the Deputy Membership Coordinator being fired in September 2002. Billy Roper went on to found the group White Revolution. In August 2003 another internal disruption occurred with two members of BoD, firefighter Fred Streed and former economics professor Robert DeMarais resigning.
In April 2005, Kevin Alfred Strom, former Alliance member and then editor of National Vanguard Magazine, issued a declaration calling for Erich Gliebe to step down;[3]the Executive Committee of the National Alliance and most unit coordinators supported this action. Gliebe refused the demand, claiming that the National Alliance operates under the "Leadership Principle" and that he would not yield to any coup. Strom then formed a new group called National Vanguard. Shortly thereafter, Gliebe resigned as National Chairman of the Alliance stating that he needed more time to spend with his family. Gliebe appointed Shaun Walker as his successor and in June 2006, Walker was arrested for Civil Rights violations (in 2007 Walker was sentenced to 87 months).[4] After the arrest, Gliebe again assumed the leadership of the organization.[5]
The splintering of the group did not last long. In January 2007 Strom was indicted on child pornography and of seeking to coerce a 10-year-old sexually.[6] Two of the three charges were dismissed in October, 2007 and the third was pending trial in January, 2008. Then in March 2007 the National Vanguard dissolved and in its place European Americans United formed.[7]

[] Politics

"White survival" is the core political position of the National Alliance. The group hopes to secure a "white living space" within North America, where the physical and cultural presence of non-whites has been removed. The National Alliance points to the changing demographic situation in America, such as the declining white birthrate and an influx of non-White immigrants as justification for its white separatist position.
Every Valentine's Day, the National Alliance seeks to improve its image by distributing a "Love Your Race" flyer. The organization describes it as a call for all races to embrace their various heritages. Watchdog organizations such as the Anti-Defamation League have argued that its Valentine's Day campaign is merely a propaganda tactic designed to obfuscate its racist messages.[8]

[] Anti-Semitism

See also: 9/11 conspiracy theories The group states that Jews exert a negative influence at nearly every level of American society. The National Alliance also claims that Jews maintain large influence and ownership of the mainstream entertainment media in America.[9] After the September 11, 2001 attacks, the National Alliance claimed that these attacks were caused by the US's unconditional and biased support of and policy towards . The National Alliance also claims evidence that Israel's launched the 2001 anthrax attacks in order to set up the 2003 invasion of , a longtime enemy of Israel;[10] such antisemitic 9/11 consipracy theories are popular among other white supremacy groups.

[] Business

Before the death of Pierce, the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) and the Federal Bureau of Investigation called the Alliance the best-financed and best-organized white nationalist organization of its kind in the United States. Membership in 2002 was estimated at 2,500 with an income of $1 million annually.[11] According to the SPLC, paid membership has declined to fewer than 800 and the paid staff was down to only 10 people as of 2006.[12] The infighting since the death of the founder Pierce has weakened the organization.
In 2002, the organization had a paid staff of 17 and ran a white power record label called Resistance Records and ran "Resistance Radio", a (now defunct) web radio station that streamed racist rock music across the Internet 24 hours a day. It also has a radio show, American Dissident Voices, heard on shortwave and streaming audio on the Internet. This show started in 1992 and has been on every week since. At one point in the mid-1990s there were 22 radio stations, AM and FM, which carried the program, but most radio stations dropped the program. With the growth of the Internet the show peaked at it highest listenership in 2002 with 250,000 regular listeners in America. The original host was Strom until early 1997 when Pierce took it over full-time. Upon the death of Pierce in July 2002 it again was hosted until April 16, by Strom. Walker then became the voice for American Dissident Voices until his arrest in June 2006 when Gliebe became the weekly DJ for this 30-minute program.

Damn, it must suck to be an anti-Semite. You can't enjoy the Three Stooges, Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock, Han Solo and Princess Leia, Superman, Spiderman, or even Bugs freakin' Bunny!

Why do people let the poison of racism into their souls? No one chooses their race or their sex (except for Michael Jackson.) We all live alone inside our own skin, and we all die alone.

Originally Posted by William Shakespeare

Hath not a Jew eyes? hath not a Jew hands, organs, dimensions, senses, affections, passions? fed with the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject to the same diseases, healed by the same means, warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer, as a Christian is? If you prick us, do we not bleed? if you tickle us, do we not laugh? if you poison us, do we not die?

[DavidHenry]

Originally Posted by thatguyoverthere

I read the article in your initial post. I certainly comprehend it. Heck, I own a copy of the Turner Diaries, so I'm quite familiar with the line of thinking that folks like you follow!

I didn’t write the article, nor do I endorse everything in the article, however, the purpose was to show the utter dominance of people of Jewish extraction in the mass media, and where they weren’t identifiably Jewish, they were certainly rabid pro-Zionists, ie, Murdock.

That’s my main aim, to highlight and expose the fact that Jews own and dominate the mass media{Jews being a tiny minority in America, and the media being the key to political success}…..now if you’re aware of the dominance of Jews and are uncomfortable with it, ie, you’re on my side, why on earth are you bickering over minor points?

It’s obvious that your goal is to try and discredit me and discredit any merit the NA might have all in the name of defending the Jew.
FYI, I’m more than happy to declare myself an anti-semite{I’ve done so a number of times on numerous forums}, however, I define a Jew as anyone who supports the evil triad of Judaism, Zionism and Israel, and it’s too bad if you support these scum overall.

It makes no difference to me how many forums warm me, censor me and eventually ban me, all I’m interested in is the truth of the matter, and the truth is that Jews own and dominate the mass media, and this enables them to effectively select and influence the government, especially wrt foreign affairs.

I find it astonishing that people can learn that Jews represent approx 3% of the American pop, yet own and control the media{ZOMM}, which naturally leads to selection and control/influence of government{ZOG}…..of course, you’re very comfortable with that by the sounds of things, otherwise you’d be on my side instead of asking the most stupid questions and attempting to “kill the messenger”.

Facts are facts no matter how much you dislike them being exposed, and the fact is, Jews own and dominate the mass media, how many times do I have to say it before you figure out it might be a good idea to recognize it lest you ruin you credibility amongst the decent folk at this forum.

I hold the view that no tiny minority should ever own and control the media/government, and that alone should disqualify them from having such a powerbase, but on top of that, the Jews carry the stench of Zionism around their necks and that makes me very suspicious of Jews in positions of power/influence.

Btw, the Zionist agenda can be summed up as “the quest for world domination”, and as outlandish as that might sound, they control the US{world’s no1 superpower}, and they also control Israel{ME superpower}.

I want you to stop wasting everyone’s time nit picking and attacking the messenger and confront the fact that a tiny minority owns and controls the media/government.

[DavidHenry]

Originally Posted by 7960

PLEASE, show me where I've denied anything.

Well I beg your pardon, let's get it out in the open....do you accept that Jews own and dominate the mass media?

[DavidHenry]

Originally Posted by Jenifer Johnson

What make him a racist? I don't think he believes in Judaism. Do you believe in Judaism, David?

No, I'm anti-ALL religions, I'm an atheist.

[avsp]

DavidHenry: Please state explictly who here at LL you suspect of being Jewish. There surely must be some. Also please state how you've discerned this?

Also I've not read all the thread, shame on me etc, but arent these large firms owned by the shareholders? If so, are you able to prove that these shareholders are Jewish?

Plus, are any of your best friends Jewish?

FWIW IMO the the main beneficiary of the Iraq effort has been Iran. Isreali interests have suffered as the credibility of US military might has taken an enormous blow