Conspiracy theory: Jews own the US media / Is this forum pro-Zionist?

[avsp]

Originally Posted by DavidHenry

I define a Jew as anyone who actively supports Judaism, Zionism and Israel.....so you guys can let me know

So regardless of his parentage Murdoch is Jewish coz his papers, TV stations etc support the existance of Isreal. Would a person of Jewish parents who wasnt a Zionist then not be Jewish even if they attended synagogue?

The implication of your comment is that the shareholders care about content other than it's capacity to make money, IOW, the high level executive are responsible for content, not only what they air, but also what they refuse to air.

I'm accusing the media of being dominated by Jews and that the Jews are pro-Israel and Zionism, ie, both Israel and Zionist's are portrayed as the good guys.

Obviously our implications/inferrences may well differ, ..., bias is in the eye of the beholder etc. To me it was just a question of the use of language. i.e. ownership. You've not addressed the question & also you've defined the term 'jew' is an extremely odd fashion. This extreme oddity seems very much based upon your own bias.

Many see the media as 'leftist' & strongly pro-palestianian, ..., but perhaps those that do so are zionists, ..., & possibly even thus by definition Jewish.

FWIW I know lots of Jews, (by birth & religious practice), who are anti-zionist.

No, I'm deeply suspicious of Jews, and would never ever be friends with people who thought immoral invasions of other countries was cool.
I don't mind being thought of as an anti-semite.

So, I guessing here, you dont like Arabs or Americans either.
Have you considered that some Jews didnt support the invasion of Iraq, some Arabs didnt back invasions of Isreal & some Americans didnt support the invasion of Iraq

That's just your opinion, but Israel produces very little of it's own Oil+ it's common knowledge that Iraq was considered to be Israel's main enemy, although you might be in denial on that one.

Saddam was indeed one of Isreals many enemies. I think it very unlikely that if Iraq should ever become stable that the regime would be a great ally of Isreal.

It is 'just my opinion' this does not make 'Isreal is the main beneficiary of the Iraq invasion' a fact. How has it benefited, has its access to oil increased or decreased, does it now pay more or less for its oil. Please provide proof of any figures

Could you give an clear concrete example of a pro-zionist product from Disney?

[tbone]

The racist thing comes in from the other thread (jews control the media) he posted linking to an anti-semetic website (denying the holocaust, generally blaming jews for gay people and white women marrying black men) and using that as proof in his arguments. In fact he quotes it as fact in many circumstances.

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dh's own website seems fairly objectable to me
its got a whole subforum dedicated to his bannings etc from other net forums

even after only a few mins of looking
see his user profile for link to his forum site
clearly & openly admmittedly calling for collective punishment

Originally Posted by davidhenry at his own forum

Personally, I think the idea of any tiny minority having control and ownership of the mass media as grounds for intervention, however, there’s more than enough evidence to support the idea that the mass media{the minor players were blacked out with the strike on WTC1} were involved in the 9/11 hoax, ie, missiles hit most of the targets, not planes, as such, I think the mass media{if not all the media} needs to be purged of Jews.

It should be pointed out that because I don’t believe every single Jew was involved, I’d nominate that they receive a lump sum payment to the value of their working lives, so as to get them all out, and to not disadvantage a Jew who might be innocent, that said, the media by and large are a pathetic truth quashing criminal org that needs a serious overhaul along with every other anti-truth org.

Theres another subforum there called 'Reveling in thhe Jewish Mentality', its description "Where the Jewish Mentality is on display for all to see what disgusting vile sick little racist creators they are. The best way to expose them is to show the world the shit-stain they leave behind."

Its full of flames they've provoked & what appear to be claims of counter-strikes at their 'enemy forums', ..., cant be certain about this last one as the library blocked links to the few target postings I tried.

Either way, aporia abounds presumably, ..., but can it really be so if not deliberate?
Who can say, ..., I certainly cant coz i may well be Jewish, ..., or not, ..., possibly, ..., depends how you define the term

Originally Posted by DavidHenry

I define a Jew as anyone who actively supports Judaism, Zionism and Israel.....so you guys can let me know [snip ...]

[Roonie]

Originally Posted by tbone

The racist thing comes in from the other thread (jews control the media) he posted linking to an anti-semetic website (denying the holocaust, generally blaming jews for gay people and white women marrying black men) and using that as proof in his arguments. In fact he quotes it as fact in many circumstances.

Yes denying the holocaust ever occured is a huge red flag for me too and says racist to the core. The other stuff is proof.

[7960]

Originally Posted by 7960

Can you explain why nazis on trial after ww2 didn't present evidence contradicting what you're going to call the "official zionist propaganda"?

Are you going to answer my question?

Or just answer this........there is plenty of evidence that 6 million jews were killed. Where is your evidence refuting that?

[Thorgrim]

So anyone who practices judaism or is just from Israel, is "the jew" who you immediately distrust...that my friend...is the definition of racism...and I think you've made us all very uncomfortable by being so racist

Also, factoid of the day: Not all Jews are zionist, there are anti-zionist jews...and oddly enough, anti-zionism israelis, and anti-israeli jews, and anti-jewish israelis, etc etc

edit: changed "now" to "not"

[DosEquis]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

30 billion in welfare? What about all the other money we give to every other country in the world? Why complain only about Israel? What about the money we give to countries that aren't even our allies? If I were you, I'd have a bigger problem with that...

I have problem with both. We give them money and military hardware, they let us use them as a forward operating point in the middle east.

I guess in short my foreign policy feelings are along the lines of what Ron Paul speaks about.

[avsp]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

So anyone who practices judaism or is just from Israel, is "the jew" who you immediately distrust...that my friend...is the definition of racism...and I think you've made us all very uncomfortable by being so racist

Also, factoid of the day: Now all Jews are zionist, there are anti-zionist jews...and oddly enough, anti-zionism israelis, and anti-israeli jews, and anti-jewish israelis, etc etc

boris mididoctors has some great tales of a grouping of fanatical anti-isreali militant Jews that campaign in his locale, (Hackney London).

[hsmith]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

So anyone who practices judaism or is just from Israel, is "the jew" who you immediately distrust...that my friend...is the definition of racism...and I think you've made us all very uncomfortable by being so racist

Also, factoid of the day: Now all Jews are zionist, there are anti-zionist jews...and oddly enough, anti-zionism israelis, and anti-israeli jews, and anti-jewish israelis, etc etc

I must be really bad then, I am dating one

[avsp]

While we're on zionism etc I liked Bush's comments the other day calling for the need of the removal of Jewish settlements on the west bank if a settlement is to be reached.

I wonder how he came to be allowed say such an obviously un-zionist thing, or how come it got so widely reported of some people paranoid fears are in any way true, ..., perhaps its a bluff to keep us all guessing etc.

[RockPusher]

Originally Posted by DavidHenry

And who are these all-powerful masters of the media? As we shall see, to a very large extent they are Jews.

Yes, there is a hugely disproportionate number of Jewish people in the entertainment and news medias.

There is a disproportionate number of Caucasians too.

what does that tell you?

I can detect a definite bias from some Jews in the media and it is very disturbing to me, particularly the slant on politics and law.

Is this exclusively a Jewish thing though?

There are a whole slew of Caucasians with the same slants.

To those who think the control is monolithic and confined to an ethnic group... you need to look deeper.


You cant confine slanted viewpoints and agenda to a race.
Ever watched John Stewart? Need I say more?

That being said, there are a number of bona fide media conspiracies.

Ever heard of Megaphone?

[nbiggershaft]

Originally Posted by DavidHenry

No, I'm deeply suspicious of Jews, and would never ever be friends with people who thought immoral invasions of other countries was cool.
I don't mind being thought of as an anti-semite.

Hahahaha. You saw it coming coming. I love all the encouragement you guys gave him, 'anti-zionism is not anti-semite'. We all knew he was just a bigot.

[IminWonderland]

Originally Posted by nbiggershaft

Hahahaha. You saw it coming coming. I love all the encouragement you guys gave him, 'anti-zionism is not anti-semite'. We all knew he was just a bigot.

Yeah, saw that from post #1.

I wish I had more Jewish people in my neighborhood.

They have a great sense of Family.

The participants in this thread who are questioning the OP have been extremely nice.

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by DavidHenry

No, I'm deeply suspicious of Jews, and would never ever be friends with people who thought immoral invasions of other countries was cool.
I don't mind being thought of as an anti-semite.

Are you able to give me an example of a country that has performed a moral invasion of another country?

By that argument, it's not Jews you dislike, it's the human race.

[RockPusher]

Originally Posted by 7960

Are you going to answer my question?

Or just answer this........there is plenty of evidence that 6 million jews were killed. Where is your evidence refuting that?

Actually, 6 million has not been established. The official confirmed numbers, which are likely to be FAR lower than the assumed numbers, are in the neighborhood of 300K.

The actual number is likely lower than 6 Mil, and higher than 300K.

That number is b.s. to understanding the history since more than 12 million Christians were murdered by the Nazis and nobody gives a rats ass about them.

The public schools tell us that Hitler murdered 6 million Jews, and that is why we went to war.

If that had any logic basis, when Stalin murdered 6 million Christians in the Ukraine in one winter, nobody in the states batted an eye.

[RockPusher]

Originally Posted by garbagemanlb

To me anti zionist means being against a jewish state. I'd say I am anti-zionist.

There are people who don't know much, however, and call those people 'anti-semitic'. Ignorance.

I wonder if these people would support the creation of a Christian nation in India or Brazil, displacing the natives... :-)

[Scrum]

I can see not liking Israeli policy, but I will never understand hating an entire group of people because of who they are when they are born.

That goes for blacks, whites, gays, catholics, paraplegics, or anything else.


Don't blame every Jew walking the planet because you dislike Israel and it's influence.

[Fed Up]

Jesus was a Jew.

Simon, Andrew, James, John, Philip, Bartholomew, Thomas, Matthew, James, Thaddaeus, Simon the Zealot, Judas Iscariot and Matthias were Jews.

Jerry, George, Elaine and Kramer: Jews.

Whatever happened to "Love thy neighbor?"

Fed Up

[Thorgrim]

Stalin gassed 6 million people? This is news to me...

The proof is beyond overwhelming, to make it simple, every historians studying 18th, 19th, and 20th century history knows there was a great migrations of Jews to Eastern Europe, specifically Poland, that there were over 3 million Jews in Poland at the start of WW2 has been proven 100x over

The fact is there were only a few hundred thousand Polish Jews who survived the gas chambers, that's 3 million right there, just counting one country of the numerous areas Germany conquered

The methodology, using part of it's elaborate train network to move them in...the gas chambers, the cremations, etc...had Nazi documents which had not just early predictions, but actual results...this methodology was confirmed by the Nuremburg trial and the historican community, in cooperation was engingeers, statiticians, etc from around the world

In a few months, gangs of Rwandas killed a million people, yet in 3 years of paramilitary murderers with machine guns and 3 more years of gas chambers in the most sophisticated and fast discriminatory murdering method ever imagined...someone could actually suggest only 300,000 were killed

Beyond insanity, might as well say all of history is a lie and we're living in the Matrix...there is so much proof on the Holocaust that if