So who won the recent Reagan debate?

[garbagemanlb]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

Of course they'll say that, they can convince 50% of our country to turn against itself in the war. Best tactic they ever devised.

The party of responsibility...except in this case, where they are willing to kill themselves and their children simply because we have women in bikinis. It couldn't possibly be more complex than that! We have no responsibility, even if our own intelligence says otherwise!

I love the GOP. What's great this time around is that it finally appears like the American people are also done with them, at least til 2010. Obama or Hillary(hopefully not) in 08.

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by garbagemanlb

The party of responsibility...except in this case, where they are willing to kill themselves and their children simply because we have women in bikinis. It couldn't possibly be more complex than that!

Hmm, if only it was as simple as that.

[DosEquis]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

Of course they'll say that, they can convince 50% of our country to turn against itself in the war. Best tactic they ever devised.

No, dude. Those statements were made before we invaded and occupied Iraq. Those 'justifications' on their part were made long before we invaded Iraq and were not intended on trying to flip half the country against the war. OBL's other goal was finance related. Our attacks on them cost millions where his attacks cost tens of thousands. He knows he can't even remotely even think of defeating the US militarily...but if we spend ourselves in to submission..we have a chance to be beaten.

Personally, i dont blame them for hating are leaders because of our foreign policy. We install Saddam, provide him money, weapons, and support. We are STILL his ally after he uses chemical weapons we gave him, on his own people. We use that 15ish years later as justification to remove him..right. In the 1950s we removed a elected leader in Iran and install a brutal dicator. Wierd, they hate us.

Give me a fucking break bro. This isn't about party its about common sense son. All I think we should do is open our eyes and see there are consequences (aka blow back) from our actions.

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by DosEquis

No, dude. Those statements were made before we invaded and occupied Iraq. Those 'justifications' on their part were made long before we invaded Iraq and were not intended on trying to flip half the country against the war. OBL's other goal was finance related. Our attacks on them cost millions where his attacks cost tens of thousands. He knows he can't even remotely even think of defeating the US militarily...but if we spend ourselves in to submission..we have a chance to be beaten.

Personally, i dont blame them for hating are leaders because of our foreign policy. We install Saddam, provide him money, weapons, and support. We are STILL his ally after he uses chemical weapons we gave him, on his own people. We use that 15ish years later as justification to remove him..right. In the 1950s we removed a elected leader in Iran and install a brutal dicator. Wierd, they hate us.

Give me a fucking break bro. This isn't about party its about common sense son. All I think we should do is open our eyes and see there are consequences (aka blow back) from our actions.

There are always going to be a select few that hate us for something, no matter what we do. Should we not then have international policies because of it?

You say that 'Osama said so' but you also forget that Osama et al have said they hate us because we are not Islam, that we are evil, that we let our 'women walk around not covered' etc. Why do you ignore those confessions of hate yet pay attention to the ones that you want?