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Old 01-15-2008, 08:05 PM   #41
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If you're talking about history, I'll give some of the history here

The Jews certainly did have a "convert or die" method, read the Old Testament...the problem is that they were continually conquered by people of other religions, so after that point, it's impossible to tell your occupiers to convert or die...it went on for so long that conversion stopped being practiced, infact it was discouraged because it angered the rulers of whatever area they were in...and it would hurt others in the community, not just the preacher

There are several interesting developments that led Jews into the position they were in...money-wise

1) Christians have these really communist beliefs about lending money, that businesses can not lend money for interest, this lasted until very recently, so only Jews could lend money, thus royal courts needed Jews for all the loaning required in medieval wars

2) Rural folks were subject to cruel punishment from their fellow christian overlords...when famine struck, who do you blame, the only non-christian community around...this and actual laws forced Jews into the city...you force a large group into a center of commerce, and what do you know, they end up a lot more successful than people working in mud all day

So over hundreds of years, you had Jews doing special functions for a lot more money than your average starving Christians, and then you had urban jews with a lot more opportunities than rural christians...this lead to a middle/upperclass that was not proportionate to religion/size

Ofcourse, this was all caused by religious intolerance by Christians, strangely enough it was Christian zealotry that almost forced the Jews to make more money than your average Christian

Money breeds more money, and over time people noticed that the Jews ran many banks (because of the old rule of no interest loans, which defeats the purpose of profitable banks) and many businesses (because they were centered around cities)

Ofcourse, without any formal education, they believed it was a conspiracy, and societies love a scapegoat, so when things were rotten, and a boy was starving, there was nothing to get people their minds off starving like the boy telling everyone a jew tried to sacrifice him, and used some of his blood in a satanic ritual

Rumors spread, pogroms start, and the thing is, people remember the original slander, so when a new one comes up, it becomes all the more credible, so blood libel after blood libel starts and people really start to believe it...rumor after rumor about Jews controlling all the money start over Jewish Banking, and it becomes more and more accepted

After centuries, they were such effective scapegoats and so many rumors had built up that Jew hatred had become a favorite past time for Christians
 
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Old 01-15-2008, 08:21 PM   #42
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Old 01-15-2008, 08:24 PM   #43
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Old 01-15-2008, 08:40 PM   #44
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You mean like with blacks in america? I mean, they got their civil rights so everything is ok and they should stop telling everyone they're victims, right?


Yes. Exactly like SOME blacks...SOME Jews do the same thing. They have their Holocards in their hip pocket.
 
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Old 01-15-2008, 08:42 PM   #45
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Originally Posted by 7960 View Post
And it doesn't make sense to feel like a victim when you're being blamed for everything? Did you really think that all the way through?


They AREN'T blamed for everything. Who are these people doing the blaming? Nazis? White Separatists? Who cares what they think?
 
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Old 01-15-2008, 08:44 PM   #46
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Originally Posted by Donkey® View Post
Yes. Exactly like SOME blacks...SOME Jews do the same thing. They have their Holocards in their hip pocket.
Don't you understand, black people may still be suffering racial discrimination on a daily basis in America, and with Jews that has basically ended

However, Jews who play the Jewish-Card are much more likely to have the same political beliefs at 7960, while blacks vote 90% Democratic, and to be sure the 10% are those who somehow believe that lowering taxes on the wealthy is what will cure Black America's lowerclass problems...not those who "play the race card"
 
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Judaism is a dogma that manifests a criminal mentality. A Jew is only one that believes, defends, manifests and promotes, the criminal Jewish mentality; a criminal.

The question should be, why are criminals hated; easy, because they are criminals.
 
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Old 01-15-2008, 10:41 PM   #48
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Originally Posted by Jenifer Johnson View Post
Judaism is a dogma that manifests a criminal mentality. A Jew is only one that believes, defends, manifests and promotes, the criminal Jewish mentality; a criminal.

The question should be, why are criminals hated; easy, because they are criminals.
Don't paint with a broad brush or anything.
 
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Old 01-15-2008, 11:25 PM   #49
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Originally Posted by Jenifer Johnson View Post
Judaism is a dogma that manifests a criminal mentality. A Jew is only one that believes, defends, manifests and promotes, the criminal Jewish mentality; a criminal.

The question should be, why are criminals hated; easy, because they are criminals.
Stereotyping an entire group of people isn't going to convince anyone on this forum.

I'd be interested in seeing you post some statistics of what percentage of Jewish people violate the law (thus, criminals) vs other groups if you actually have such data, which I doubt you do.. it's much easier to make broad generalizations and then shy away from backing up your assertions with little things called facts than it is to come out strong making a case by providing evidence.
 
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Old 01-15-2008, 11:51 PM   #50
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Originally Posted by Jenifer Johnson View Post
Judaism is a dogma that manifests a criminal mentality. A Jew is only one that believes, defends, manifests and promotes, the criminal Jewish mentality; a criminal.

The question should be, why are criminals hated; easy, because they are criminals.
Back up your post with some kind of objective facts, or else I'll be forced to call you nothing more than a bigoted idiot.
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Old 01-16-2008, 12:09 AM   #51
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Originally Posted by Publius View Post
Back up your post with some kind of objective facts, or else I'll be forced to call you nothing more than a bigoted idiot.



you nothing more than a bigoted idiot

that is a vioation of this forum's rules.

motivez, I think you have a mess to clean up on isle 12!!!!.
 
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Old 01-16-2008, 12:11 AM   #52
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Originally Posted by Jenifer Johnson View Post
you nothing more than a bigoted idiot

that is a vioation of this forum's rules.

motivez, I think you have a mess to clean up on isle 12!!!!.
You seem to have trouble reading, I said unless you can offer an objective fact supporting your assertion. Are you then admitting you can offer no sort of objective support to your blatantly bigoted statement?
 
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Old 01-16-2008, 12:19 AM   #53
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Originally Posted by Jenifer Johnson View Post
you nothing more than a bigoted idiot

that is a vioation of this forum's rules.

motivez, I think you have a mess to clean up on isle 12!!!!.
It isn't a violation when you are pointing out a fact.

Prove him wrong. You skipped over two people asking for proof.

Lets see the stats.
 
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Stereotyping an entire group of people isn't going to convince anyone on this forum.
If one doesn't read the dogma, there is no way to convince anyone of anything. I'm only prompting people to become truthseekers to find the truth for themselves. You still can't distinguish dogma from what a Jew is. Outside the context of Judaism there is no Jew.
 
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Originally Posted by Jenifer Johnson View Post
If one doesn't read the dogma, there is no way to convince anyone of anything. I'm only prompting people to become truthseekers to find the truth for themselves. You still can't distinguish dogma from what a Jew is. Outside the context of Judaism there is no Jew.
Where is the criminal mentality? What crimes do they commit? These invisible ones that aren't documented because they control everything?
 
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Old 01-16-2008, 12:29 AM   #56
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If one doesn't read the dogma, there is no way to convince anyone of anything. I'm only prompting people to become truthseekers to find the truth for themselves. You still can't distinguish dogma from what a Jew is. Outside the context of Judaism there is no Jew.
I have yet to see you offer a single fact to back up any assertion you have made on this forum. That might fly amongst your little group of narrow-minded companions, but in order for you to convert anyone to your belief and make yourself seem anything more than just a bigoted, ignorant fool you HAVE to provide some sort of factual basis for your assertions.

You've yet to offer any proof of your claims about Jewish criminality.

You've yet to offer any proof of Jews not existing outside the context of Judaism (which is in itself an absolutely asinine statement).

Until you start offering some kind of objective proof of ANYTHING you are asserting, you're not going to be taken seriously by anyone outside of those that already agree with you.
 
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At the core of Judaism is pedophilia. Is that criminal enough for you?


According to prison society the lowest form of human existence is a child molester. But according to Jewish LAW, practicing sexual mutilation on a child that can NOT give their consent, is ok.


 
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Old 01-16-2008, 12:34 AM   #58
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At the core of Judaism is pedophilia. Is that criminal enought for you?


According to prison society the lowest form of human existence is a child molester. But according to Jewish LAW, practicing sexual mutilation on a child that can NOT give their consent, is ok.


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You continue quoting "sources" linked from your own website with no actual source material listed. That does not qualify as a factual support for your statements.
 
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You mean you don't know the source is Judaism's holy book called the Talmud?


Why are you attacking me if you don't even have any concept of what Judaism is?


Here is a picture of what is considered the Talmud.

 
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Does it burn your eyes to view that image?
 
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