Why do people hate Jews? - Page 7

Stylerod · 01-17-2008, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by Scrum

I see your point, but do you really think Hitler was trying to exterminate all the Jews?

There were plenty over on this side of the Atlantic that he couldn't get.

Of course. He had Jews locked up and terminated in every country he invaded. If he would have been able to invade the US he would have done that same thing here.

RockPusher · 01-17-2008, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by Linzyhop

because the Jewish race was targeted to be wiped out. that's what extermination is.

No, it is not. (Ex) beyond/outside (Terminus) endpoint/boundary

Exterminate literally means to get rid of. When Orkin exterminates roaches, they use chemicals to keep roaches outside of your house by spraying the boundaries.

I am not trying to say that extermination is not a horrible thing, but you should understand what it actually means.

7960 · 01-17-2008, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by RockPusher

That is HIGHLY debatable. There is no known Nazi program to extinct the Jewish people. The official programs were stated as EXTERMINATION.

you're making a distinction between extinct and exterminate?

honestly, I'm done replying to you.

Donkey® · 01-17-2008, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Well...

The Germans put the Jews in camps and killed them as a form of control as well. What's your point? The bottom line...Jews were killed because they were Jews. Chinese were killed because they were Chinese.

Donkey® · 01-17-2008, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Of course. He had Jews locked up and terminated in every country he invaded. If he would have been able to invade the US he would have done that same thing here.

They also did that to other people as well...not JUST Jews.

RockPusher · 01-17-2008, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Of course. He had Jews locked up and terminated in every country he invaded. If he would have been able to invade the US he would have done that same thing here.

That is a fact. Except that word exterminate is WIDELY misunderstood today. Language changes, but history does not conform to language changes.

7960 · 01-17-2008, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

What exactly were they doing then?

Killing them for revenge, for "fun."

Originally Posted by Donkey®

I am not sure how much you know about what went on in China...

I know the japanese killed 20M chinese in what was hardly a fair fight. I have never read anywhere that the goal of the japanese was to kill all 500,000,000 chinese.

Can you show me that?

Scrum · 01-17-2008, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Of course. He had Jews locked up and terminated in every country he invaded. If he would have been able to invade the US he would have done that same thing here.

I think i may have asked that wrong....

Do you think his goal was to rid the world of just the Jews, or did he want to get of everyone who wasn't "Aryan"?

RockPusher · 01-17-2008, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by 7960

you're making a distinction between extinct and exterminate?

honestly, I'm done replying to you.

It is not my fault that you hate the meaning of the word:

Main Entry:ex·ter·mi·nate

Pronunciation: \ik-ˈstər-mə-ˌnāt\ Function:transitive verb Inflected Form(s):ex·ter·mi·nat·ed; ex·ter·mi·nat·ingEtymology:Latin exterminatus, past participle of exterminare, from ex- + terminus boundary — more at
exterminate. (L.) From pp. of L. txterminare, to put or drive beyond bounds.

Donkey® · 01-17-2008, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by 7960

Killing them for revenge, for "fun."

I know the japanese killed 20M chinese in what was hardly a fair fight. I have never read anywhere that the goal of the japanese was to kill all 500,000,000 chinese.

Can you show me that?

You can also not say that Hitler's "wish" or "goal" was the entire German Army's goal or wish. We're arguing semantics at this point. I am trying to figure out how killing for fun is somehow better than killing for a reason.

RockPusher · 01-17-2008, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by Scrum

I think i may have asked that wrong....

Do you think his goal was to rid the world of just the Jews, or did he want to get of everyone who wasn't "Aryan"?

There were plenty of Aryans the he got rid of too. Wasn't a big fan of religious bodies or deviant behavior.... and LOATHED subversive thought.

Scrum · 01-17-2008, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

I am trying to figure out how killing for fun is somehow better than killing for a reason.

Sounds like we're entering hate-crime territory now.

Stylerod · 01-17-2008, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

The Germans put the Jews in camps and killed them as a form of control as well. What's your point? The bottom line...Jews were killed because they were Jews. Chinese were killed because they were Chinese.

Are you fucking kidding me? You think that the Jews were only put into camps to control them? They weren't there to be eliminated?

Stylerod · 01-17-2008, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

They also did that to other people as well...not JUST Jews.

You're right. Hitler really had nothing against the Jews.

RockPusher · 01-17-2008, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by 7960

Killing them for revenge, for "fun."

I know the japanese killed 20M chinese in what was hardly a fair fight. I have never read anywhere that the goal of the japanese was to kill all 500,000,000 chinese.

Can you show me that?

Do you believe that you can alter the past by changing a word?

Donkey® · 01-17-2008, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Are you fucking kidding me? You think that the Jews were only put into camps to control them? They weren't there to be eliminated?

You think the Japanese weren't trying to eliminate all Chinese they could for no reason at all? You claim "control" which is total crap. They don't need to kill tens of millions to control a country that can't fight back.

Donkey® · 01-17-2008, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

You're right. Hitler really had nothing against the Jews.

Nobody is saying that but keep posting stuff like that.

Scrum · 01-17-2008, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

You're right. Hitler really had nothing against the Jews.

*sigh*

I haven't seen anyone take that position.

Stylerod · 01-17-2008, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

You can also not say that Hitler's "wish" or "goal" was the entire German Army's goal or wish. We're arguing semantics at this point. I am trying to figure out how killing for fun is somehow better than killing for a reason.

The killing there wasn't state sponsored, at least not in the amounts that ended up happening. In fact, the Japanese government made it illegal for their soldiers to rape women. But the commanders in the field decided to ignore that and rounded up women to "comfort" their men.

Hitlers rounding up of Jews in every part of Europe that he occupied was State Sponsored. This was his plan before he even went to war.

Linzyhop · 01-17-2008, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by RockPusher

No, it is not. (Ex) beyond/outside (Terminus) endpoint/boundary

Exterminate literally means to get rid of. When Orkin exterminates roaches, they use chemicals to keep roaches outside of your house by spraying the boundaries.

I am not trying to say that extermination is not a horrible thing, but you should understand what it actually means.

so when you call the exterminator to your house, they just politely ask the bugs to move on their way??????