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Old 01-15-2008, 10:20 PM   #1
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A question for those that defend criminality.

The basic principal of Democracy is mob rule for the benefit of the collective. To put Democracy into the simplest terms so that even a criminal simpleton can understand, it is three wolves and sheep voting on who is for breakfast. Or three men and one woman voting on who gets bloody thirds. As you can see, Democracy is just another form of Collectivism (Judaism), promoting an illegitimate form of governance, perpetrating crimes against humanity.

The only legitimate form of governance is based on the principles of Sovereignty. Under the principles of Sovereignty, one is in total control of one's actions because they are totally responsible for their actions, which establishes the basis for moral authority. Under the true legitimate authority, the only way I can get you to do something I want, is to provide positive benefit for your actions, by agreement. All human interaction is between individuals by agreement. Without agreement, the action becomes a crime against humanity. The only difference between making love and rape is consent.

No matter what religion one professes to believe in, or what code of law is considered just, the most basic criteria for what can be considered right or wrong is, no one has the right or authority to violate another's individual rights and individual sovereignty. No one on earth is god, so no one has authority or right to control another. A violation of one's individual rights and individual sovereignty, is a crime against humanity. There is no moral justification for Democracy. Voting is another collectivist mechanism (fraud) to con the sovereign out of their individual rights and sovereignty. I can not vote your individual rights and sovereignty away from you, because it violates sovereignty law (NO one has the right to violate another's individual rights and sovereignty).


For those that are dedicated to "Democracy", how do you defend your criminal mentality?

For a better understanding, here is a 4 part video explaining the difference between individualism and collectivism.

http://www.individual-sovereignty.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=515&sid=51b578cc5ba89fb36c1cf54d3c a1a976
 
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Old 01-15-2008, 10:37 PM   #2
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Soooo....it's Democracy that you really have a problem with

and it somehow goes back to the Jews....?


I don't think you will find many people who think that Democracy is somehow violating your rights. It's done pretty well for everyone so far.
It's not a perfect system, but it is far better than the direction your post was headed.
 
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Old 01-15-2008, 10:53 PM   #3
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It is the criminal mentality that I have a problem with, which you condone. Wonder why? Do you have any concept of right from wrong?
 
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Old 01-15-2008, 11:27 PM   #4
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Democracy is mob rule, sure.. but we don't have a pure Democracy in the US, so I'm not sure what your point is.
 
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Old 01-15-2008, 11:27 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by Jenifer Johnson View Post
It is the criminal mentality that I have a problem with, which you condone. Wonder why? Do you have any concept of right from wrong?


Keep your points about the issues and not other members
 
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Old 01-15-2008, 11:48 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
I'm not sure what your point is.

Did you read the post?
 
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Old 01-15-2008, 11:58 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post


Keep your points about the issues and not other members
Do you mean like this?
Scrum : Soooo....it's Democracy that you really have a problem with

Wonder why you didn't warn Scrum.


Please answer the question instead of directing the discussion towards me. " what your point" -motivez

Here is the question again:

For those that are dedicated to "Democracy", how do you defend your criminal mentality?
 
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Old 01-16-2008, 12:55 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by Jenifer Johnson View Post
As you can see, Democracy is just another form of Collectivism (Judaism), promoting an illegitimate form of governance, perpetrating crimes against humanity.
What the fuck does Judaism have to do with anything?
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Old 01-16-2008, 01:04 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by Simius View Post
What the fuck does Judaism have to do with anything?

Please check out the link and educate yourself with the 4 part video explaining the difference between individualism and collectivism.
 
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Old 01-16-2008, 01:09 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by Jenifer Johnson View Post
Please check out the link and educate yourself with the 4 part video explaining the difference between individualism and collectivism.
How about you just answer the question?

Why did you say "Democracy is just another form of Collectivism (Judaism)"

Democracy isn't another form of Judaism. So why throw Judaism into your post at that point?
 
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Old 01-16-2008, 04:03 AM   #11
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Simius,

Sorry, but it is like asking why is the color red, red.

Judaism is a political system centered around the collective control over the individual used to violate another's individual rights and sovereignty for the benefit of the collective.

Democracy is a political system centered around the collective control over the individual used to violate another's individual rights and sovereignty for the benefit of the collective.

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Old 01-16-2008, 08:32 AM   #12
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It is more like saying "Blue is a color (red)"
 
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Old 01-16-2008, 08:49 AM   #13
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Old 01-16-2008, 09:33 AM   #14
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I disagree with everything you said. It's full of conclusions predicated on false assumptions.
"Democracy is mob rule". False.
"The only legitimate form of governance is based on the principles of Sovereignty" False

Since the entirety of your post is based on these two suppositions, everything you said is moot.

Where did all of these anti-semites come from?

BTW, I am certainly not going to subject myself to a 4 part propaganda video from anti-semitic neo-nazis.
 
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Old 01-16-2008, 09:36 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by Jenifer Johnson View Post
Do you mean like this?
Scrum : Soooo....it's Democracy that you really have a problem with

Wonder why you didn't warn Scrum.


Please answer the question instead of directing the discussion towards me. " what your point" -motivez

Here is the question again:

For those that are dedicated to "Democracy", how do you defend your criminal mentality?
I asked you a question about your position. I didn't attack you personally.

Is your position so precarious that you can't even answer a simple questions about it?
 
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Old 01-16-2008, 09:43 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by Scrum View Post
Is your position so prejudice that you can't even answer in an unbiased way to any simple legitimate questions about it?


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Old 01-16-2008, 03:15 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by Scrum View Post
I don't think you will find many people who think that Democracy is somehow violating your rights. It's done pretty well for everyone so far.
It's not a perfect system, but it is far better than the direction your post was headed.

First... We are NOT a Democracy. Second, since we do not have an open government, the democratic process is a complete farce. If you are not truly informed about the decisions to be made, you cannot give informed consent by voting. Third, Democracy is NOT a form of government. It is a process.

Notice how every tinpot dictator is democratically elected.

The democratic process is a tool that can be used to ensure that the people retain their rights and government. It is also a tool that can be used to destroy rights and the Constitution. It is also a tool that can be used to keep bad people in office.

If we make a fetish of democracy as a free society, we are only hurting our selves.
 
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Old 01-22-2008, 06:32 PM   #18
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I think that you are under the assumption that we support mob rule. The United States is not a pure democracy and we do happen to have a bill of rights and a constitution that protect us from the tyranny of the majority/ the elite.

I'm not sure what your thread has to do with the system that we live in.
 
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Old 02-04-2008, 01:45 AM   #19
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Where did JJ go? Did she wander off again when no one paid attention to her idiocy? That's one of her problems. She keeps losing focus.

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Old 02-04-2008, 01:40 PM   #20
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Here is my favorite quote from that forum
David Henry:

This is just an observation from an old drunk...but it always seems that when Jen's away, so is everyone else....although lately I haven't seen boo out of her either.

Hopefully the blacks, yellows, reds and whoever else haven't got that bunny...she still has "high street" rump afterall Rolling Eyes
I mean seriously. She is the only other poster on that website... So of course when she is gone there is no one else there.
 
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