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Old 01-17-2008, 01:28 PM   #1
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POLL: Did I deserve a negative rating (IGNORANT) for this post?

( From a previous thread - Rated down for being "ignorant" - Zingers are emphasized )


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So show me.

I'm sure *someone* from japan and/or china has put something about this online. I know I put my entire curriculum online when I taught.......find me an educational site that shows chinese/japanese history where *they* say what you're claiming.

Because as of now all we have is you saying "can you imagine...seriously?!?!?"


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Okay, can you find me primary sources from Japan that say they attacked us solely because of our refusal to sell them oil? Let me know how that works out for you slick.

Don't be so obtuse. Objective analysis of history doesn't always work that way. Deductive reason is often employed in determining historical perspective based on time lines and logic. I have read this history before, so I know I am not the first person to make this astoundingly common-sense conjecture, although I am not going to invest the time to do your research for you to dig up articles in agreement with this astoundingly logical conclusion.

It is a fact that we attacked the Japs first. I can tell you this from primary sources. I have spoken with men who killed Japanese in China before Nov '41 while flying for the Flying Tigers... A bleedingly obvious American operation. The Flying Tigers were notorious for running their mouths and the world knew exactly what we were up to in the Summer of '41.... plus, it is highly likely that the purchase and deployment of the equipment was common knowledge.

If you think that our creating a mercenary air force then using them to successfully attack the Japanese in China before the attack on Pearl Harbor was a non-factor, then I suggest, in all seriousness, that you are suffering from cognitive dissonance.

It would be like acknowledging that someone lit the fuse to a stick of dynamite yet believe the explosion was initiated by static electricity.

You get ZERO points from me regarding online curriculum. Have you seen any school curriculem that documents the Japanese military control of the Chinese opium market or how the profits from opium was used in their war efforts? Unlikely that you have, yet it is well documented.

Can you find any Spanish documentation of the written languages of the native S. Americans? There was plenty of evidence.... but it was thrown into riverbeds..... History is written by the victors. You would have to be plain daffy to not understand the full implications of this if you have ever studied history.

Oh, and you get negative points from me for being a "teacher". The educational system is a fleckin joke and anybody who proclaims themselves to have been a part of it is appealing to authority from the wrong person. If you were a learned and wise individual..... you would keep that to yourself to maintain respect.



I love my 1934 Oxford dictionary. It is wild to see how the common meanings of words have been perverted.

A scholar is defined as one who accepts the beliefs that are presented to them.

In my circle, calling each other, "A scholar and a gentleman", is considered to be a sublime insult.
 
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Old 01-17-2008, 01:30 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by RockPusher View Post
( From a previous thread - Rated down for being "ignorant" - Zingers are emphasized )


Quote:
Originally Posted by 7960
So show me.

I'm sure *someone* from japan and/or china has put something about this online. I know I put my entire curriculum online when I taught.......find me an educational site that shows chinese/japanese history where *they* say what you're claiming.

Because as of now all we have is you saying "can you imagine...seriously?!?!?"


_______________________________________



Okay, can you find me primary sources from Japan that say they attacked us solely because of our refusal to sell them oil? Let me know how that works out for you slick.

Don't be so obtuse. Objective analysis of history doesn't always work that way. Deductive reason is often employed in determining historical perspective based on time lines and logic. I have read this history before, so I know I am not the first person to make this astoundingly common-sense conjecture, although I am not going to invest the time to do your research for you to dig up articles in agreement with this astoundingly logical conclusion.

It is a fact that we attacked the Japs first. I can tell you this from primary sources. I have spoken with men who killed Japanese in China before Nov '41 while flying for the Flying Tigers... A bleedingly obvious American operation. The Flying Tigers were notorious for running their mouths and the world knew exactly what we were up to in the Summer of '41.... plus, it is highly likely that the purchase and deployment of the equipment was common knowledge.

If you think that our creating a mercenary air force then using them to successfully attack the Japanese in China before the attack on Pearl Harbor was a non-factor, then I suggest, in all seriousness, that you are suffering from cognitive dissonance.

It would be like acknowledging that someone lit the fuse to a stick of dynamite yet believe the explosion was initiated by static electricity.

You get ZERO points from me regarding online curriculum. Have you seen any school curriculem that documents the Japanese military control of the Chinese opium market or how the profits from opium was used in their war efforts? Unlikely that you have, yet it is well documented.

Can you find any Spanish documentation of the written languages of the native S. Americans? There was plenty of evidence.... but it was thrown into riverbeds..... History is written by the victors. You would have to be plain daffy to not understand the full implications of this if you have ever studied history.

Oh, and you get negative points from me for being a "teacher". The educational system is a fleckin joke and anybody who proclaims themselves to have been a part of it is appealing to authority from the wrong person. If you were a learned and wise individual..... you would keep that to yourself to maintain respect.



I love my 1934 Oxford dictionary. It is wild to see how the common meanings of words have been perverted.

A scholar is defined as one who accepts the beliefs that are presented to them.

In my circle, calling each other, "A scholar and a gentleman", is considered to be a sublime insult.
Yes, but not for the parts that you put in bold.
 
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Old 01-17-2008, 01:30 PM   #3
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Where's the poll?
 
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Old 01-17-2008, 01:39 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
Where's the poll?
I am IGNORANT of how to make one.... :-)
 
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Old 01-17-2008, 01:46 PM   #5
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when you first post a thread, you have the option of creating a poll below it. once it's posted, the option is gone.
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Old 01-17-2008, 02:02 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by Linzyhop View Post
when you first post a thread, you have the option of creating a poll below it. once it's posted, the option is gone.
I didn't know that.... you learn something new everyday.
 
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Old 01-17-2008, 02:11 PM   #7
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I think you can click on thread tools and add a poll... even after you have already created the thread.
 
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Old 01-17-2008, 03:56 PM   #8
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I added one for you
 
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Old 01-17-2008, 03:58 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
I added one for you
a negative rating?

 
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Old 01-17-2008, 04:00 PM   #10
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a poll
 
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Old 01-17-2008, 04:06 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by 7960 View Post
a negative rating?

 
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Old 01-17-2008, 05:44 PM   #12
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I think too many big words hurts his brain and his only reaction is to give neg reps






Edit - Just a joke, nothing personal intended
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Old 01-17-2008, 06:07 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by RockPusher View Post
I am IGNORANT of how to make one.... :-)

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Old 01-17-2008, 06:08 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by 7960 View Post
a negative rating?



I want a nickel jar for all of mine!
 
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Old 01-17-2008, 06:19 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
I added one for you

Rockin!


How can I embed an image into a post?
 
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Old 01-17-2008, 06:26 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by RockPusher View Post
Rockin!


How can I embed an image into a post?

Use this BBC icon:


You can use our uploader if needed and it will give you the tags:
http://uploads.libertylounge.net/
 
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Old 01-17-2008, 07:33 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
Use this BBC icon:


You can use our uploader if needed and it will give you the tags:
Thanks.

I tried this button when editing a post and it inserted a link to the image, but did not display it. I will figger it out...
 
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Old 01-17-2008, 07:36 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
I want a nickel jar for all of mine!

HAHA!

My evil plan is werking... my enemies are adding their names to my list so I will know who they all are

I now have a list of the thought criminals on the board!
 
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Old 01-17-2008, 07:43 PM   #19
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Originally Posted by RockPusher View Post
Thanks.

I tried this button when editing a post and it inserted a link to the image, but did not display it. I will figger it out...
Should look like this only with /IMG at the end.

[IMG]http://www.libertylounge.net/forums/images/approx2/editor/insertimage.gif[/IMAGE]
 
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Old 01-17-2008, 07:58 PM   #20
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