AFP - The US Congress, run for years with an iron fist by hardliners in President George W. Bush's Republican party, will get a radical makeover if opposition Democrats win November's midterm election. WASHINGTON (AFP) - The US Congress, run for years with an iron fist by hardliners in President ...
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| Liberals to hold top leadership posts in Democrat-run US Congress (AFP) AFP - The US Congress, run for years with an iron fist by hardliners in President George W. Bush's Republican party, will get a radical makeover if opposition Democrats win November's midterm election.
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| geez, could you get any more dramatic?
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| It's not inaccurate. | ||||
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you really think bush and the republicans are leading the country like this?! cause i don't. our government and country is kinda set up so that this is impossible | ||||
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| by his party not his person, read the sentence | ||||
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| Re-read the quote and see that it is about the ruling of the Congress with an iron fist by the GOP. Your interpretation of the quoted definition needs to be adjusted for this. The GOP has ruled over the Congress with an iron fist with a few notable exceptions of bipartsianship. They've got a double majority so they can do whatever they like regardless of consequences to the organization. It's their way or the highway. The stature of the Congress as well as its individual members has been tarnished because of this. This is detrimental to the individuals who make up the organization as well as the organization itself. It fits into the definition you posted nicely. | ||||
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| Originally Posted by beez any party in control of both congress and the white house is going to do what they want, with few exceptions of bitpartisanship. that's the fun of controlling both parts. to say they run it 'tyrannically' is preposterous. what is considered detrimental to the people is subjective. i, for one, don't think the way they have run the government is detrimental to us or them. sure, there have been some mistakes made, but i hardly feel like i'm worse off because of it.
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| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz It doesn't have to be detrimental to you for it to be ruled with an iron fist. Given the current opinion of Congress as a whole based on polling, I think Congress has suffered under its current rulers. To be ruled tyrannically is simply to be ruled in an unjustly harsh manner. Depends on how you view the GOP's tactics for controlling the vote, really. I still don't think it's an inaccurate description.
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| Originally Posted by beez
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| Iron Fist is not a word, its a phrase like "Hard Wall" It doesn't mean EXACTLY what dictionary.com tells you, its how some people use it, its a phrase you have a lot of liberty to use it example: "The judge cut off attorneys, gave harsh instructions to the jurors and otherwise ran the court with an Iron Fist" that doesn't mean the judge is a tyrant and anyone who killed up would be hailed for tyranicide jesus | ||||
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| The rule doesn't have to be absolute so long as the intention and actions are to rule absolutely. Stalin ruled with an iron fist yet people were able to circumvent his will. Again, you seem to be unable to grasping (or unwilling to for the sake of your point) the scope of reference of 'iron fist' as it stands in the sentence you quoted. It's to the detriment of the people involved in the Congress. If I rule my home with an iron fist it may or may not be to the detriment of the rest of the country but even if it's not, I'm still ruling my own sphere with an iron fist. | ||||
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| Originally Posted by beez
![]() but congress is included in the OP as 'bush's republican party' who is doing the ruling. how can someone rule themselves with an iron fist to the detriment of themselves? | ||||
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| We can all argue the definition of "Iron Fist", but I have to agree... it was written pretty dramatically. We should expect nothing less from our mainstream media though. | ||||
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| thanks Ron aka Captain Obvious that's how Congress works bud | ||||
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| No, it mentions that Congress is run by Bush's GOP party. Not that it is his party. The party rules the Congress. | ||||
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| Oh, it's his party alright. The "W" brand is something members of Congress have been all too happy to embrace / label themselves as... until recently. | ||||
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| That "it is his party" above was ambiguous. The Congress is not his party but it is run by his party. | ||||
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