Bill Clinton lying about Obama? No wei!

ballz2wallz · 01-21-2008, 04:55 PM

Apparently Bill Clinton is lying (according to Obama)! Who would have thought! Unfortunately nobody cared when he lied before. They only care when it might affect them personally.

“He continues to make statements that are not supported by the facts — whether it’s about my record of opposition to the war in Iraq or our approach to organizing in Las Vegas.

“This has become a habit, and one of the things that we’re going to have to do is to directly confront Bill Clinton when he’s making statements that are not factually accurate,” Obama said.

JaJae · 01-21-2008, 04:56 PM

It's good to see prominent Democrats giving Clinton the business.

DosEquis · 01-21-2008, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

It's good to see prominent Democrats giving Clinton the business.

They give him business today, but soon as they are the nominee they look for his endorsement on the second day.

ballz2wallz · 01-21-2008, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by DosEquis

They give him business today, but soon as they are the nominee they look for his endorsement on the second day.

Slimey isn't it?

Thorgrim · 01-21-2008, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by DosEquis

They give him business today, but soon as they are the nominee they look for his endorsement on the second day.

The latest poll out of Florida:

Hillary has won the hispanic vote, on top of her old voter groups, this primary is over unless she screws up...and not some minor gaffe that explodes because the media was waiting for anything to make the race interesting

7960 · 01-21-2008, 06:07 PM

clinton lied about the nevada delegate issue, too, when he said something about "5 votes for every one" or some shit like that

if hillary can't control him during her campaign how can we expect her to control him if she gets elected?

JaJae · 01-21-2008, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by 7960

clinton lied about the nevada delegate issue, too, when he said something about "5 votes for every one" or some shit like that

if hillary can't control him during her campaign how can we expect her to control him if she gets elected?

I don't think she has any intentions to calm him down until it goes too far and starts to seriously hurt her candidacy.

JaJae · 01-21-2008, 06:38 PM

Here's Bill Clinton falling asleep today during a MLK tribute speech.
LiveLeak.com - Bill Clinton Falls Asleep During Martin Luther King Speech

ballz2wallz · 01-21-2008, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Here's Bill Clinton falling asleep today during a MLK tribute speech.
LiveLeak.com - Bill Clinton Falls Asleep During Martin Luther King Speech

I had a dream!

JaJae · 01-21-2008, 06:46 PM

Didn't they also fall asleep during Reagan's funeral? I guess if it's not all about them they're not interested.

ballz2wallz · 01-21-2008, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Didn't they also fall asleep during Reagan's funeral? I guess if it's not all about them they're not interested.

I don't know, but here's what Hillary said about MLK:

"It was a transforming experience for me," she said. "He made it very clear that the Civil Rights movement was about economic justice."

I'm not sure what "economic justice" means

JaJae · 01-21-2008, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

I'm not sure what "economic justice" means

I think it means she's playing off MLK's legacy to reaffirm he redistribution of wealth mentality.

David Octavius · 01-21-2008, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

The latest poll out of Florida:

Hillary has won the hispanic vote, on top of her old voter groups, this primary is over unless she screws up...and not some minor gaffe that explodes because the media was waiting for anything to make the race interesting

If there is one thing we can count on in this primary is the accuracy of polling data right?

ballz2wallz · 01-21-2008, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by David Octavius

If there is one thing we can count on in this primary is the accuracy of polling data right?

If there is one thing we can count on, it's someone posting a poll that has absolutely nothing to do with the thread topic!

Thorgrim · 01-21-2008, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by David Octavius

If there is one thing we can count on in this primary is the accuracy of polling data right?

Even the worst poll was wrong by 6.5 points both ways...13 points total...

Give Obama 13 points and he's still down 10 points

The common polling wisdom was Obama would win by 8...something happened, and I suspect it was race

If Hillary is up by 23 points...and average out 20pts come this weekend...I think we can say she's going to win

6SpeedTA95 · 01-21-2008, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

I think it means she's playing off MLK's legacy to reaffirm he redistribution of wealth mentality.

And you hit the nail on the head. Just once I'd like to hear one of these politicians tell us definitively what "economic justice" is. They're scared to say it because if they did they'd be unelectable in this country.

RMNIXON · 01-21-2008, 07:06 PM

BILL CLINTON: I Have a Dream

BILL HAS A 'DREAM'

JaJae · 01-21-2008, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by RMNIXON

BILL CLINTON: I Have a Dream

BILL HAS A 'DREAM'

Critics are saying he's bringing race into the campaign, then he falls asleep at a MLK event after lying about Obama all week... geeez. I wonder how much press this will get.

ballz2wallz · 01-21-2008, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Critics are saying he's bringing race into the campaign, then he falls asleep at a MLK event after lying about Obama all week... geeez. I wonder how much press this will get.

I'm gonna guess...not so much.

motivez · 01-21-2008, 07:17 PM

Does anyone have the actual quotes that Obama has criticized Bill for? I've seen a lot of talk about him supposedly lying, but I've not actually seen what specifically he said