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Old 09-07-2006, 04:17 PM   #1
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American charged with aiding Terrorism

We had a thread about this guy here:
al Qaeda video 'inviting' Americans to convert or die

He's been charged.
KRT Wire | 09/07/2006 | Indictment expected for California man in al-Qaida videos
Indictment expected for California man in al-Qaida videos

By James Gordon Meek

New York Daily News

(MCT)

WASHINGTON - An American who has made al-Qaida propaganda videos is charged with aiding terrorists in a secret federal indictment expected to be unsealed soon, the New York Daily News has learned.

Adam Yahiye Gadahn, a 28-year-old Californian who now calls himself Azzam al-Amriki, has appeared in four al-Qaida videos. In two of the videos, released since the July 7 anniversary of last year's bombings of London's transit system, he appears with his face uncovered.

The federal indictment is expected unsealed in Los Angeles in the next few days, three sources said. It will likely charge Gadahn with giving material support to terrorists.

The indictment will cite Ayman al-Zawahiri, the No. 2 man in al-Qaida, who praised "Brother Azzam" in a video released last weekend. In the video, Gadahn delivers an hour-long speech urging his countrymen to convert to Islam - or be vanquished.

"(Gadahn) wants to lead his people out of the darkness and into the light," Zawahiri says in a taped introduction to the video. "So listen to him."

Sources said that ringing endorsement sealed the fate of Gadahn, who has been sought by the FBI since 2004. He is believed to be living in Pakistan.

"It makes the criminal charges much better," said a source familiar with the prosecution's case.

Gadahn was raised Adam Pearlman on a goat farm by a Catholic mother and Jewish father, psychedelic rocker Phil Pearlman.

He converted to Islam as a teenager in 1997. That year, he was recruited by an al-Qaida support cell operating a nonprofit group called Charity Without Borders.

The cell's leaders were tied to Egyptian terror group Gama'a al-Islamiyya and its imprisoned leader, Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman, the blind cleric convicted of targeting New York City landmarks.
I think this is good. Hopefully they'll find him and bring him in for a trial.
 
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Old 09-07-2006, 04:19 PM   #2
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im more worried about bombing him than trying him
 
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Old 09-07-2006, 04:19 PM   #3
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Old 09-08-2006, 08:30 PM   #4
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While obviously not condoning anything this guy has said (ibterroristsympathizer)

Can someone explain the free speech implications for not being able to support or talk about [ in favor of ] a group, organization, or person that the Government doesn't approve of?
 
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Old 09-08-2006, 09:52 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
While obviously not condoning anything this guy has said (ibterroristsympathizer)

Can someone explain the free speech implications for not being able to support or talk about [ in favor of ] a group, organization, or person that the Government doesn't approve of?
He's not being charged with speech problems. He's being charged for being a member of a terrorist organization that attacked the United States.

If he knew of the attacks or had ties to the organization that did it, he can be charged under our laws.
 
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Old 09-08-2006, 10:21 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
He's not being charged with speech problems. He's being charged for being a member of a terrorist organization that attacked the United States.

If he knew of the attacks or had ties to the organization that did it, he can be charged under our laws.
What I wonder though, is if he had direct knowllege, or if he's part of an organization that generally does things of that nature, if he's basically guilty by association?

Can you be convicted because of association?
 
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Old 09-08-2006, 10:24 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by IminWonderland View Post
What I wonder though, is if he had direct knowllege, or if he's part of an organization that generally does things of that nature, if he's basically guilty by association?

Can you be convicted because of association?
If that group is trying to attack/overthrow the country, yes.
 
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Old 09-08-2006, 10:25 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by IminWonderland View Post
What I wonder though, is if he had direct knowllege, or if he's part of an organization that generally does things of that nature, if he's basically guilty by association?

Can you be convicted because of association?
Yes, especially if that group is a terrorist group. But even less than that RICO laws would likely hold, maybe not in this case just yet, but likely they'd hold for most of these "terrorists" on our soil.
 
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Old 09-08-2006, 10:29 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Diesel66 View Post
If that group is trying to attack/overthrow the country, yes.
Not to mention an organization who formally declared war on the US and attacked us.
 
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Old 09-08-2006, 11:36 PM   #10
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I just saw this homo on TV

he'll get kilt
 
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