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Old 01-31-2008, 10:23 AM   #41
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Originally Posted by kombayn View Post
Scary thing is, I don't like anyone either. Right now I'm voting for Ron Paul in the primary but if it comes down to Clinton/McCain, I'll have to vote 3rd party or not vote at all. Clinton will keep us in Iraq, I guarantee it and McCain just has no idea what he'll be doing from an economic stand-point. Mitt Romney, while I completely distrust the guy does know what he wants to do with the economy and that's the only thing I have faith in with this man. O'bama wants to make changes, and he's the most "honest" from when he speaks I think. He doesn't just make you promises on what he's going to do, he tells you, "I'm going to get both parties together and we're going to hammer this out." Just like a democratic process should work. Not it's my way or the highway. But right now our society is changing and our government is trying to rule with an authoritarian strong-hold, when you can hold anyone for prison for whatever reason they see fit, that's a problem. Could you imagine if they had the Patriot Act when communism was at its peak? People would be imprisoned like no ones business, back in the day all that happened was they lost there job. Now it could be a much different thing if someone speaks out against the government.
Sound to me like your leaning towards Obama
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Old 01-31-2008, 09:55 PM   #42
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Originally Posted by kinggovernor View Post
he doesn't defend him at all, did you even watch the video?

"He is on my staff because he supports my positions...I don't know what his previous positions were, he supports mine I have nothing to do with his"

But it still bothers me the man is on his staff. I have seen enough of that always smiling bullshitter on Fox to be concerned.
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Old 01-31-2008, 09:56 PM   #43
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And note I have not marked my Sample Ballot Yet.

I have until Tuesday.
 
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Old 02-01-2008, 04:18 AM   #44
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Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
But it still bothers me the man is on his staff. I have seen enough of that always smiling bullshitter on Fox to be concerned.
McCain gave his answer, take it or leave it
 
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Old 02-01-2008, 12:47 PM   #45
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Originally Posted by kinggovernor View Post
McCain gave his answer, take it or leave it
Didn't you think Ron Paul should give the KKK guy his money back? Or was that someone else?
 
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Old 02-01-2008, 02:49 PM   #46
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
Didn't you think Ron Paul should give the KKK guy his money back? Or was that someone else?
no I don't think I cared about that one way or another.
 
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Old 02-02-2008, 02:37 PM   #47
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don't vote for McCain! Or the other 2 liberal democrats. See this post:

Illegal Immigration ALIPAC Forums-viewtopic-McClintObama Amnesty Plan: 20 Million Illegal Alien Voters!

if that doesn't make up your mind who to vote for, then don't vote!
 
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Old 02-02-2008, 03:46 PM   #48
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Originally Posted by David Octavius View Post
Am I the only person who is supremely disappointed in the field of candidates we have? I mean in such a great country like ours this is the best we got?

Since I am a registered Independent in my State (NY) I can't vote in the Primaries but I want to get an idea of who I will vote for come November. So I have to think of only the people who have a legitimate shot - Obama, Hillary, Romney, Huckabee and McCain...spew

- I like Obama but admitally I know very little about him - I would vote for him, but I need to know what he would actually do first


- Hillary I'm not a fan of but I can't discount her experience and if she went against Romney I would vote for her.

- McCain I was a HUGE fan of in 2000 and thought he should of got the nomination. Now with the BS I am not so sure but if he was against Hillary, my vote is for McCain. Against Obama, I'm not so sure

- Huckabee and Romey are elusive figures for me, I am not quite sure what to make of them, perhaps you guys can shed some light for me?

EDIT - I didn't mention Rudy but if some how he got the nomination I would vote for ANYONE against him
I'm currently supporting Obama simply because I don't really like anybody else running.

Huckabee said something about wanting to re-write the constitution through Christian values. He couldn't buy my vote now.

McCain I haven't liked for many years. He's wishy washy on issues. Some say he's principled and his views change as the circumstances change. Fine, even if I were to accept that then it would mean I would have to trust his judgment over his current positions. I don't.

Romney changed every political position he's held for this campaign it seems. That makes him untrustworthy. Kerry got a lot of slack for being a flip-flopper. Kerry is like a rock compared to Romney. The only saving grace he has is that I would say he has a decent understanding of the economy and he probably won't screw up as badly as McCain or Huck. And to be honest, I really don't care what his positions are on abortion and most of the other things he flip-flopped on. I wouldn't vote for a candidate based on their positions towards abortion or gay marriage anyway.

Paul is a politician who would shake up the two party system. Sadly I don't think he'd be able to get much done. He'd probably unite the Democrats and Republicans against him to override him and he'd be a lame duck. The way he handled the newsletters was nothing short of disgraceful to his campaign and his supporters.

Hillary Clinton is the typical mainstream, corrupt politician who has been in Washington too long. I'm also not looking forward to the Clinton Family Drama becoming the focus of America for another term. I'd also prefer not to vote for a corrupt politician when there are other candidates available. I think her health care plan is a bit odd considering she takes more money from healthcare lobbyists than anyone else and her program mandates people to invest into the healthcare industry... I'd say I'm a bit skeptical. I don't see her as trustworthy to begin with.

So we're left with Obama. He's probably the most principled politician running who has a shot at the White House. We've been robbed of a good president for quite some time. We had JFK, hell even Reagan. Now look what we've been stuck with: Bushes and Clintons. It would be nice to expect more and get more out of a president. I believe Obama has the potential to be another JFK-type president. His political positions are not extreme and his views strike me as being honest rather than political rhetoric he thinks he needs to say just to get elected. For these reasons I'll vote for him, until he gives me a reason not to. Simply put nobody else has really given me much of a reason to vote for them, but a lot of reasons why I shouldn't.
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Old 02-03-2008, 02:00 PM   #49
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
I'm currently supporting Obama simply because I don't really like anybody else running.
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Old 02-03-2008, 03:59 PM   #50
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Originally Posted by RockPusher View Post
(From the linked video)
Confused about the election? You are probably too dumb to vote. Don't Risk it.

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No embedded vids? Pooh!
Are you calling him an idiot?
 
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Old 02-03-2008, 06:15 PM   #51
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Originally Posted by garbagemanlb View Post
Are you calling him an idiot?
No, I thought the humor was relevant and would catch a chuckle or two.
 
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