Obama Wins!

RMNIXON · 01-26-2008, 08:04 PM

1/4 white vote

1/2 white vote under 30!

58% of Dems!

Fox Exit Polls.

The real win is the broad appeal!

JaJae · 01-26-2008, 08:08 PM

This is good news for Obama. If he lost SC I think he would have been done for.

RMNIXON · 01-26-2008, 08:10 PM

The breaking story is a close exit poll between Hillary and Edwards. She could come in third!

SoFlaJDM · 01-26-2008, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by RMNIXON

The breaking story is a close exit poll between Hillary and Edwards. She could come in third!

those exit polls you've been relying on have been wrong EVERY SINGLE TIME... do you need me to go back and show you?

SoFlaJDM · 01-26-2008, 08:38 PM

hillary is actually closer to obama than edwards as of right now

SoFlaJDM · 01-26-2008, 08:39 PM

aaaaand cnn just projected hillary as a 2nd place lock

chalk another one up to those trusty exit polls!!!

RMNIXON · 01-26-2008, 08:47 PM

What part of "breaking story" and "could" did you miss in my post?

Fox just predicted Hillary as second.

A very distant second.

It is not as if I am a Network that predicts winners before polls close in a State like was done with Florida in 2000. I do not get paid to spread partisan crap!

SoFlaJDM · 01-26-2008, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by RMNIXON

I do not get paid to spread partisan crap!

even worse... you do it for free

motivez · 01-26-2008, 09:15 PM

Why is Bill giving a speech right now?

RMNIXON · 01-26-2008, 09:20 PM

With 35% counted Obama has 54% of the vote!

If he can keep this lead he is the popular vote candidate in SC!

Watch out any lamps near Hillary!

motivez · 01-26-2008, 09:22 PM

I would have thought you'd want Hillary to do better? Certainly the Republicans have been gearing up for well over a year for a campaign against her in the general.. if it's Obama, don't you think it makes it harder for a Republican to win, since he wont have the high negatives that Hillary Clinton does?

RMNIXON · 01-26-2008, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

Why is Bill giving a speech right now?

(CNN) — Bill Clinton's aggressive campaigning in South Carolina in the days leading up to the state's primary may have had a net negative effect among South Carolina’s Democratic primary voters, CNN exit polls indicate.

CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - Exit polls: Bill Clinton’s effect « - Blogs from CNN.com

RMNIXON · 01-26-2008, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

I would have thought you'd want Hillary to do better? Certainly the Republicans have been gearing up for well over a year for a campaign against her in the general.. if it's Obama, don't you think it makes it harder for a Republican to win, since he wont have the high negatives that Hillary Clinton does?

What you mean to say is do I think Hillary will be the one to beat?

The answer is yes. The negatives tell that story.

But the honest truth is that for the good of the country I would like to see the Clinton's stopped right here and right now!

As the dunce Edwards is no threat I think I could live with Obama more than Hillary. This is a shift for me. I am willing to take the same gamble that your party should take to stop the progress of the Queen.

I have no clue how Obama would match up with any Republican. I am simply enjoying my rebel spirit for the moment.

Just be nice and don't call me "liberal!"

JaJae · 01-27-2008, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by motivez

I would have thought you'd want Hillary to do better? Certainly the Republicans have been gearing up for well over a year for a campaign against her in the general.. if it's Obama, don't you think it makes it harder for a Republican to win, since he wont have the high negatives that Hillary Clinton does?

Not everyone wants bad candidates to win simply for their own political purposes. I'm hoping for Obama, but I don't hope Rudy or a horrible candidate from the GOP side is matched up against him.

motivez · 01-27-2008, 01:25 AM

Most Republicans I know want Hillary to be the nominee for the Democrats because they think she's the one they can beat

It makes sense, it's not a knock on him or anyone else

JaJae · 01-27-2008, 01:48 AM

Hillary finally seems to have lost the black vote... On top of that she lost a pretty solid lead by an incredible number. People in SC ran from the Clinton camp at an obscene rate.

garbagemanlb · 01-27-2008, 02:02 AM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Hillary finally seems to have lost the black vote... On top of that she lost a pretty solid lead by an incredible number. People in SC ran from the Clinton camp at an obscene rate.

Bill sure didn't help the cause with his constant ridiculous attacks. I hope this is just the beginning in a series of failures for the Clinton campaign. I really want to vote for the Democrats in November, and with Obama as the nominee I definitely will be able to.

Thorgrim · 01-27-2008, 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Hillary finally seems to have lost the black vote... On top of that she lost a pretty solid lead by an incredible number. People in SC ran from the Clinton camp at an obscene rate.

She lost her lead well over a month ago, and she lost any significant lead over 2 months ago

This was all well before Iowa, New Hampshire, Michigan, Nevada...she lost the PRIMARY black vote in Nevada

The last time Clinton had a double digit lead in South Carolina, Rudy had a 20+ lead in Florida, crushing McCain and everyone else

Now...if McCain wins Florida, will anyone be dumbstruck? Think it was an amazing victory over Rudy? Ofcourse not, Rudy's lost lead is old old news

Thorgrim · 01-27-2008, 02:23 AM

Originally Posted by garbagemanlb

Bill sure didn't help the cause with his constant ridiculous attacks. I hope this is just the beginning in a series of failures for the Clinton campaign. I really want to vote for the Democrats in November, and with Obama as the nominee I definitely will be able to.

He, at the very least, distanced his wife from the SC lost

When you think...who won and who lost...what do you think?

"Obama won big, and man, Bill Clinton really lost that round" notice something, you don't immediately go "Hillary looked horrible in SC" you might afterwards but it's not the first thought

A lot of different things happened tonight, and it all depends on how the media spins it to see how the dice roll

If the media does a significant analysis of the 80% black vote and 24% white vote until FL, and turns over the story to whats going to happen to FL? I think Hillary will sweep February 5th

If the next 10 days are a big Obama-crush marathon, then Obama will probably flip it

garbagemanlb · 01-27-2008, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

He, at the very least, distanced his wife from the SC lost

When you think...who won and who lost...what do you think?

"Obama won big, and man, Bill Clinton really lost that round" notice something, you don't immediately go "Hillary looked horrible in SC" you might afterwards but it's not the first thought

A lot of different things happened tonight, and it all depends on how the media spins it to see how the dice roll

If the media does a significant analysis of the 80% black vote and 24% white vote until FL, and turns over the story to whats going to happen to FL? I think Hillary will sweep February 5th

If the next 10 days are a big Obama-crush marathon, then Obama will probably flip it

You'd have a point if he didn't come in a close second in NH and first in all-white Iowa.