Democrats are turning on the Clintons

[RMNIXON]

Oh Brother!

It sounds like her biggest risk was that Sinbad would eat all the food before they landed!

[northhunter]

This morning the Sunday news shows made it clear that Bill was taking a shot at Obama. When are they going to put a muzzle on him? Hillary must be tossing ashtrays like crazy huh?

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by RMNIXON

This is working:



SALEM, Ore. (AP) - Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign is trying to clarify comments by former President Clinton that seemed to question Barack Obama's patriotism - comments an Obama aide likened to Joseph McCarthy.
Clinton's campaign said the comments were being misinterpreted and quickly posted a clarification on its Web site. But retired Air Force Gen. Merrill "Tony" McPeak said he was disappointed by the comments and compared them to those of McCarthy, the 1950s communist-hunting senator.

The former president made the comments while speculating about a general election between his wife and Republican John McCain.

"I think it would be a great thing if we had an election year where you had two people who loved this country and were devoted to the interest of this country," said Clinton, who was speaking to a group of veterans Friday in Charlotte, N.C. "And people could actually ask themselves who is right on these issues, instead of all this other stuff that always seems to intrude itself on our politics."

McPeak, a former chief of staff of the Air Force and currently a co-chair of Obama's presidential campaign, said that sounded like McCarthy.
"I grew up, I was going to college when Joe McCarthy was accusing good Americans of being traitors, so I've had enough of it," McPeak said.


My Way News - Obama Aide: Bill Clinton Like McCarthy


Working for McCain!

They pulled out McCarthy Its great to see the democrats are using their tactics are against each other.

[JaJae]

CBS finally blew the faux Hillary Bosnia story.

YouTube Video

It's interesting to watch her campaign backtrack and then the guy from Politico say her "All this experience that she's been talking about is at least partly her imagination."

[RMNIXON]

Another Hillary Clinton "Tall Tale" to make her look important?





If your not familiar with this behavior you must be living in a Cave!

[JaJae]

Chelsea Clinton agrees with her mother's account of how they dodged the sniper fire in Bosnia.
Breitbart.tv » Chelsea Fields Audience Question About Bosnia Sniper Fire

Poor genetics...

I disagreed with going after her politically before as was done in the past. But now it seems she's holding her own events and essentially lying like her mother. I think she's open to scrutiny now.

[motivez]

Poor genetics?

What is that supposed to mean?

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by motivez

Poor genetics?

What is that supposed to mean?

It was a joke as in lying runs in the family.

[motivez]

Ah, well.. I'd expect any daughter to stick up for their mother

Personally I think Clinton needs to get out of it, she can't catch up in pledged delegates, and since MI and FL wont be counted ( a mistake, IMO, considering their importance in the general election ) it would be tremendously stupid for the super delegates to overturn the popular vote and the leader in pledged delegates.

[JaJae]

I think she isn't very politically savvy and some reporters got the best of her. She was just trying to do what she felt was best and got caught with her pants down. She should have just been honest.

CBS isn't letting this story go. Hillary claimed she mispoke because she was sleep deprived among other things. Obama staffers said she didn't mispeak because it was in her prepared notes.

CBS isn't letting let her off the hook on her response and showed her making similar statements getting increasingly absurd as time went on regarding Bosnia and then released more footage of her landing. I admit, I laughed at the 7th graders part.

CBS News Video - Top Stories and Video News Clips at CBSNews.com

[JaJae]

The NYPost is even getting in on the action.

NOW BUNKO HILL IS UNDER FIRE

By GEOFF EARLE and CHARLES HURT, Post Correspondents

March 26, 2008 --

WASHINGTON - Hillary Rodham Clinton's lies about risking her life under sniper fire during a visit to Bosnia as first lady have infuriated the US military brass and troops.

"She has no sense of what a statement like that does to soldiers," fumed retired Maj. Gen. Walter Stewart, the former head of the Pennsylvania National Guard.

"She is insulting the command in its entirety," he said yesterday.

Clinton came under fire after saying she "misspoke" about what happened during the trip and claimed it was the first time she erred in describing her visit - an assertion Barack Obama's campaign quickly disproved by finding at least three prior occasions over the last few months where she's claimed there was sniper fire.

Stewart, who was assigned to the Army's European headquarters at the time of Clinton's visit in 1996, called her statements "really astonishing."

"Believe me, heads would have rolled all over" if the military put the then-first lady at "unacceptable risk," added Stewart, who is supporting Barack Obama.

Air Force Lt. Gen. Buster Glosson, a John McCain supporter who ran the air attack in the first Gulf War, said, "It bothers me any time anyone running for the highest office in the land fabricates a story.

"That should bother any American, whether you're military or nonmilitary."

Another source, a former Army analyst who was stationed abroad when dignitaries visited, said, "You know, we have soldiers overseas now who are getting shot at by real bullets from real enemies who really want to kill them.

"Getting shot at by snipers is not something you forget - or make light of," he added.

"If getting shot at by sniper fire qualifies you to be president, then there are thousands of guys in the military right now who are way more qualified than Hillary Clinton to be our next president."

Clinton insisted yesterday she "misspoke" for the first time in a dozen years when describing the trip in a recent speech.

But Obama's camp immediately sent out three additional instances where Clinton made claims of dangers faced during her Bosnia visit that have been contradicted by videos of a tranquil arrival ceremony for her goodwill mission.

Clinton yesterday tried to backpedal.

"The military took great care of us," she told Pittsburgh's KDKA radio station.

"I have written about it in my book and talked about it on many other occasions and last week, you know, for the first time in 12 or so years, I misspoke."

Maj. Gen. William Nash, the commander of US troops in Bosnia, told The Washington Post he was unaware of any security threat to Clinton during her eight-hour stay in Tuzla.

During an Iraq speech last Monday, Clinton's version of the trip sounded more like a Sylvester Stallone thriller: "I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead, we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base."

In December, campaigning in Dubuque, Iowa, Clinton said, "We landed in one of those corkscrew landings and ran out because they said there might be sniper fire. I don't remember anybody offering me tea on the tarmac when that was happening."

Video taken by CBS News on the trip reveals a quaint greeting ceremony with a local schoolgirl who read a poem to Clinton, along with a group of other children.

"It goes without saying that they don't arrange a ceremony with little girls, with bouquets and poems and stuff, if there's a serious risk of taking sniper fire said, ex-Sgt. Peter Cachion, who served in Bosnia.

Comedian Sinbad, who was also on the trip, told The Washington Post his biggest worry was where he was going to get his next meal.

Lying just comes naturally to her. The NYPost, a home state paper, is having none of it. If this campaign keeps going the way it's headed she may even have trouble retaining her seat in NY.

[Phantom]

Wonderful. She flat out lied about the story and now she's lying about "misspeak." The fact is, she detailed this story more than once.

Also, a mistake is interchanging a word or two, not an entire recollection of events.

The last thing we need is another 4 years of dishonest leadership that will say or do anything to achieve their objectives. She's everything people hate the most about Bush cloaked in the big D rather than the R.

[JaJae]

The Air Force pilot who flew Hillary in has recalled his memory of the situation.
Breitbart.tv » Air Force Pilot Who Flew Clinton to Bosnia Tells His Side of the Story

[motivez]

I kinda feel like this could really be a turning point. Surprisingly, Obama has survived the Wright incident without much damage at all (so far)..

But, I think this illustrates a key point about Hillary's personality to a lot of people who have always heard the media narrative, but for one reason or another still really liked her..

She's completely playing into the idea that she'll do and say anything to win, that every move is calculated and tested before being made, and I really feel like this could hurt her in PA if the Obama campaign takes advantage of it well and tries to extend this lie, or "inaccurate recollection," or whatever you want to call it.. to bring into doubt the rest of the experience (especially on foreign policy) she says she gained as First Lady.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by motivez

I kinda feel like this could really be a turning point. Surprisingly, Obama has survived the Wright incident without much damage at all (so far)..

#1 It's not over, not by a longshot

#2 It has hurt him:
If McCain vs. Obama, 28% of Clinton Backers Go for McCain

Florida:
PPP (D) 03/15 - 03/16 618 LV 50 39 11 McCain +11.0

Pennsylanvia (where i live and can't do anything without seeing an Obama poster or see an Obama ad)
Rasmussen 03/10 - 03/10 500 LV 44 43 13 McCain +1.0

Ohio:
PPP (D) 03/15 - 03/17 629 LV 49 41 10 McCain +8.0

Most distressing, McCain has hit the 50% mark with likely voters, with a double digit lead over Obama
Rasmussen Tracking 03/22 - 03/25 1700 LV 41 51 8 McCain +10.0


I can't stress how much Obama NEEDS to win PA...and by far his easiest path to the white house is Ohio (any other path requires a perfect score in regards to winning all the gore states, plus how Kerry picked up NH, and then pickup a new one [Colorado])

However Ohio gives him room to faulter in NH...and Iowa/Wisconsin

Colorado is a long shot anyway, with it neighboring Arizona

[7960]

this thread needs some levity.





Hillary WASN'T LYING! Bosnia gunfire footage discovered...

YouTube Video

[7960]

Originally Posted by motivez

I kinda feel like this could really be a turning point. Surprisingly, Obama has survived the Wright incident without much damage at all (so far)..

But, I think this illustrates a key point about Hillary's personality to a lot of people who have always heard the media narrative, but for one reason or another still really liked her..

She's completely playing into the idea that she'll do and say anything to win, that every move is calculated and tested before being made, and I really feel like this could hurt her in PA if the Obama campaign takes advantage of it well and tries to extend this lie, or "inaccurate recollection," or whatever you want to call it.. to bring into doubt the rest of the experience (especially on foreign policy) she says she gained as First Lady.

Obama needs to say it. He needs to just say the words and get it over with. He needs to stand in front of a bunch of microphones with dozens of reporters at the ready and he needs to drop the bomb............

"Hillary Clinton lied to you, people. She lied when she made up the story and now she's lying to you again to try to cover it up. So you need to ask yourselves. Is that the kind of White House you want in 2009?

Then turn and walk away and do not take questions for the rest of the day.

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by 7960

this thread needs some levity.





Hillary WASN'T LYING! Bosnia gunfire footage discovered...

That video is actually kinda humorous. One thing that has always disturbed me though about this situation is that brief part of the clip it ended on of Hillary's speech. She laughs and smiles when describing having to put her head down and run for cover from sniper fire. If the events really happened the way she described them does anyone think she'd find it funny?

[David Octavius]

I am not a Hill supporter but I don't see her lie getting any traction, how is it any different than how most other politicians lie or exaggerate?

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by 7960

Obama needs to say it. He needs to just say the words and get it over with. He needs to stand in front of a bunch of microphones with dozens of reporters at the ready and he needs to drop the bomb............

"Hillary Clinton lied to you, people. She lied when she made up the story and now she's lying to you again to try to cover it up. So you need to ask yourselves. Is that the kind of White House you want in 2009?

Then turn and walk away and do not take questions for the rest of the day.

And the funniest part is that the talking heads would probably call that dirty politics.