Originally Posted by Publius With about 99 percent of Democratic precincts reporting, Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York had 50 percent of the vote. Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois placed second with 33 percent , and former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina was in third with 14 percent. With ...
01-30-2008, 11:27 AM
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| Banned  Progressive Philadelphia, PA 
| Originally Posted by Publius What would Ron Paul do? 
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01-30-2008, 11:30 AM
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| Hamiltonian > Jeffersonian  Libertarian Party DFW
| Originally Posted by Thorgrim i love how you always try to deflect everything to talk about Ron Paul or the LP. Why can't you just talk about your own candidate for once?
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01-30-2008, 11:35 AM
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| Banned  Socialist Maryland
| Originally Posted by Publius
I think his point might be "what's the point talking about if's?" IF Clinton didn't win would she do it? IF Obama won would he do it? Kind of pointless. I know it means nothing, but Hillary did say before she won that is what she was going to do. | ||||
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01-30-2008, 02:15 PM
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| America Fuck Yea Election Moderator  Republican In Name Only
| Originally Posted by hsmith he has been featured on Meet the Press, in debates and is a regular on the Glen Beck show.
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01-30-2008, 03:33 PM
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| The Fed Must Go!  Paleolibertarian
| Originally Posted by kinggovernor a regualr on the Glen Beck show? the guy called Ron Paul a terrorist just a month ago.
I've monitered the media since Sean Hannity, whom I used to like, first dissed him after the first Republican debate. Sine then I have listened to right wing radio, followed CNN, Fox News, ABC, CBS, MSNBC and NBC and Ron Paul hasn't been mentioned, let alone given as much air time as the two who have dropped out, Giuliani and Thompson, former favorites of Faux News. There is no comparison. He has been given some coverage, but not that much. Here's a sample of local coverage doing an interview. Please listen to the first few words the reporter says about media coverage. And this is from a Fox News station: YouTube - Ron Paul KCPQ Fox Seattle Interview Fed Up
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01-30-2008, 03:48 PM
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| Banned Progressive Philadelphia, PA
| Sean Hannity is the media...ok Ron Paul got more coverage than Duncan Hunter, when they had equal polling #s and RP did not have significant cash advantages...when RP did, it was covered on ALL the evening news programs, and he was invited on all the sunday talk shows...overall i saw and heard more Ron Paul than I did Thompson and Rudy in January after RP hit $19 million Honestly, I think he got too much media...Mitt Romne could write himself a 19 mill check easy, bottom line is Ron Paul never got a significant number of votes...the NV and LA caucuses were a joke to the GOP... Huckabee came out of nowhere with no money and won Iowa...why couldn't Ron Paul with having raised sometihng like 25 million...have won NH with the same non-top tier media coverage Huckabee got? | ||||
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01-30-2008, 04:09 PM
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| The Fed Must Go! Paleolibertarian
| Originally Posted by Thorgrim Let me spell it out for you....
YouTube - Research Media Bias against Ron Paul on Google Labs Pay close attention to the segment on "increase of news stories for Huckabee." This just didn't happen because Huckabee performed some sort of miracle like turning water into wine. And I didn't just monitor Hannity....I put all of the other stations I monitored there instead of the names (which I did disclose in the other thread I started today). The ones I have personally monitored on an almost daily basis over the last year are Limbaugh, Hannity, Hannity and Colmes, Medved, Boortz, Beck, Dobbs, Malkin (which I'm a frequent contributor on both her sites), O'Reilly, Olbermann, Tucker, Russert and Stephanopolous. The one station that has been somewhat cordial is limited to CNN yet they too continually leave Paul out of the equation like when Paul got second in Nevada and of course no mention of Louisiana. Fed Up | ||||
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01-30-2008, 11:09 PM
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| Governments should fear their people  Paleolibertarian
| Originally Posted by kinggovernor
So being on his TV show once and his radio show once is being a regular?   | ||||
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01-30-2008, 11:11 PM
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| Governments should fear their people Paleolibertarian
| Originally Posted by Thorgrim
You're wrong. Huckabee, Giuliani, and Thompson all received more coverage than Paul, every month of the year. | ||||
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01-30-2008, 11:33 PM
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| The Fed Must Go! Paleolibertarian
| I will say this... Ron Paul was interviewed by John Stossel for ABC's 20/20 show. Oh...wait....that's right. They didn't air it! Well, at least Larry King interviewed him for a one hour show. Oh...wait....that's right. They didn't air it!  Fed Up | ||||
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01-31-2008, 01:23 AM
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| Originally Posted by lew
And Paul got more free coverage on the internet from all the bandwagoners taking time out from their Counter-Strike games to push this guy. His coverage on the internet > ALL OTHER CANDIDATES....IT'S SO UNFAIRRRRRRRRR!!!!!! | ||||
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01-31-2008, 07:53 AM
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| Banned Progressive Philadelphia, PA
| Paul got more coverage than he deserved, when he was on "This Week" the ratings weren't anything decent, despite RPers knowing about it in advance People heard his message during the GOP debate, when they saw on through his campaign, the GOP events, the media...everyone knew what he was going to repeat, and simply he didn't catch on...people simply didn't like his message | ||||
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01-31-2008, 08:03 AM
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| America Fuck Yea Election Moderator Republican In Name Only
| Originally Posted by Fed Up he did? Do you have a link?
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01-31-2008, 08:05 AM
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| America Fuck Yea Election Moderator Republican In Name Only
| Originally Posted by lew I have seen him on the glenn beck show more than once
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01-31-2008, 08:27 AM
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| The Fed Must Go! Paleolibertarian
| Originally Posted by kinggovernor Fact check...Beck called Ron Paul's supporters terrorists.....my bad...was going by memory which failed me....
As far as your other comment, you didn't watch the video I posted did you? With the media's help, which the video clearly showed Huckabee received, the guy vaulted to the top in polls. It's simple marketing. Why do Coke and McDonalds continually advertise? So their products stay fresh in consumers minds. Most Christians didn't know anything about Huckabee till the media started fawning over him. The media decided he was going to be the Christian candidate over Hunter. Simple as that. So, as a result, Huckabee received more airtime. Your comparison to the two teams left in the superbowl is rediculous. There are only two teams left! In this presidential race, there are 4 candidates left. Your analogy would be considered if Green Bay and San Diego were still alive along with New England and the Giants whereby two of those 4 teams were not covered by Sportscenter. Fed Up | ||||
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01-31-2008, 08:30 AM
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| The Fed Must Go! Paleolibertarian
| Originally Posted by kinggovernor Well, his first time was in December. Please provide youtube of any other time Paul was interviewed by Glenn Beck on his show.
Fed Up Last edited by Fed Up; 01-31-2008 at 08:39 AM. Reason: further research found no video of Paul on Beck's show more than once | ||||
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01-31-2008, 10:10 AM
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| Governments should fear their people Paleolibertarian
| Originally Posted by kinggovernor
Then you saw a rerun. He hasn't been on more than once. | ||||
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01-31-2008, 10:17 AM
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| Governments should fear their people Paleolibertarian
| Originally Posted by Thorgrim
Again, this is simply not true. If Paul all the sudden got shafted in this debate because of his Florida count, then you'd have a point. But Paul has been shafted at ALL of the debates since the beginning. He's had the least amount of time to speak in every single debate, IIRC. And him being on "This Week" was a joke by the MSM, as usual. Most candidates get the full program, or at least most of it. Paul got a few minutes. And about 98% of the time he ever was on TV, the media prefaced it with "LULZ, here is Ron Paul, he has no chance, but he's funny so let's talk to him LULZ." You CANNOT equate that to fair coverage of the other candidates without being a fucking dumbass. Paul has not, since day 1, ever had fair and equal treatment from the MSM like the other candidates, even like Huckabee. Should the MSM be forced to give equal time to Paul? Not at all. They can do whatever they like. But when people like you come in here and say that he had more than enough coverage, that it was fair, blah, blah, it's absolute horseshit. | ||||
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01-31-2008, 10:17 AM
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| America Fuck Yea Election Moderator Republican In Name Only
| Originally Posted by Fed Up so if the media is behind this, then what happened to Huckabee?
Huckabee had no media support to start with, not many people had heard of him before Iowa | ||||
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