I almost shot my eye out

Grouch · 01-30-2008, 04:01 AM

well not shot it out but had a recoil spring of my 1911 fly out and hit my in the eyebrow less than an inch from my eye. Mother fucker hurt, happened on my Auto Ordnance with a really tight barrel bushing that I have to use as bushing wrench to get off.

I had been trying to correct a problem with hammer follow and had taken it down 3 times trying to get the sear spring to put enough pressure on the disconnect. When the last time I took it down to adjust it again it shot off and hit me in the eye brow.

now I have a pea sized bright red welt on my head.

Donkey® · 01-30-2008, 04:03 AM

It's not the gun it's the person using the gun. Time for more regulation.

Grouch · 01-30-2008, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

It's not the gun it's the person using the gun. Time for more regulation.

The sad thing is, you think that actually makes logical sense.

jimeigh · 01-30-2008, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

It's not the gun it's the person using the gun. Time for more regulation.

i accidentally cut myself with a kitchen knife once

time for more regulation, amirite?

WickedLou9 · 01-30-2008, 12:23 PM

You guys maybe think that Donkey was joking?

Grouch · 01-30-2008, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by WickedLou9

You guys maybe think that Donkey was joking?

No, he's made horribly illogical statements regarding gun control in the past and when pressured to support or explain his statements he just trolls.

Donkey® · 01-31-2008, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by Grouch

No, he's made horribly illogical statements regarding gun control in the past and when pressured to support or explain his statements he just trolls.

I'd like to see those statements you're referring to.

Yes, I was joking.

Grouch · 02-01-2008, 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

I'd like to see those statements you're referring to.

Ok, but this time man up and tells what you really mean instead of just posting be red letters that I'm trolling so you can avoid the topic. (To which we were both banned and our posts were pruned. Maybe a mod can chime in otherwise if you coward out and say you never did such things)

United States Supreme Court agrees to rule on District of Columbia v. Heller

Originally Posted by Donkey®

I personally hope they come down on the side of the militia and the Constitution IS amended. There is nothing wrong with clarification ALL can understand instead of people reading into it what they want.

So again I'll repeat myself and ask you what you mean by this, if it is not that you want to SC to side with the militia and ban guns from law abiding citizens which do dont belong to said milita.

Of course there also so these winners.

Originally Posted by Donkey®

I am just wondering how people still think that events like this don't directly correlate to the amount of guns we have in this country as well as the ease to which said guns are obtained.

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Well fuck, let's just throw more nukes out there in the world....give some to everyone so when there's a person using them, 12 people can nuke that country!!!

Stylerod · 02-01-2008, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by Grouch

well not shot it out but had a recoil spring of my 1911 fly out and hit my in the eyebrow less than an inch from my eye. Mother fucker hurt, happened on my Auto Ordnance with a really tight barrel bushing that I have to use as bushing wrench to get off.

I had been trying to correct a problem with hammer follow and had taken it down 3 times trying to get the sear spring to put enough pressure on the disconnect. When the last time I took it down to adjust it again it shot off and hit me in the eye brow.

now I have a pea sized bright red welt on my head.

I know exactly which spring your talking about. I have a S&W 645 and it's recoil spring is really tight and it sits on a tiny 1/2mm metal edge. I'm always squinting and turning my head when I put that thing in place.

avsp · 02-01-2008, 09:21 AM

of course not living in gun culture the phrase has a different meaning over here, ..., but we've warned about 'the other place mentality' so we all deserve rep points for not menting it

Donkey® · 02-01-2008, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by Grouch

Ok, but this time man up and tells what you really mean instead of just posting be red letters that I'm trolling so you can avoid the topic. (To which we were both banned and our posts were pruned. Maybe a mod can chime in otherwise if you coward out and say you never did such things)

United States Supreme Court agrees to rule on District of Columbia v. Heller

So again I'll repeat myself and ask you what you mean by this, if it is not that you want to SC to side with the militia and ban guns from law abiding citizens which do dont belong to said milita.

Of course there also so these winners.

This again? No thanks. It's been explained.

Grouch · 02-01-2008, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

This again? No thanks. It's been explained.

Actually no, you never did. You are a coward and a liar. Prove me wrong.

Donkey® · 02-01-2008, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by Grouch

Actually no, you never did. You are a coward and a liar. Prove me wrong.

Surely you remember getting banned before for such name calling? Just curious.

Grouch · 02-01-2008, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Surely you remember getting banned before for such name calling? Just curious.

You're still not proving me wrong. I didn't expect you to though. Probably because you're a liar and a coward. That's just my guess.

Here is your chance to embarrass me on the forum. Take it.

Donkey® · 02-01-2008, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by Grouch

You're still not proving me wrong. I didn't expect you to though. Probably because you're a liar and a coward. That's just my guess.

Here is your chance to embarrass me on the forum. Take it.

Explain to me how I am a liar and a coward? I have explained why I said what I said a dozen different times and you keep harping on the same stupid shit. What is not working in that brain of yours? Have you poked yourself in the head with springs any other time? There seems to be a blockage of some sort.

I will repeat this ONE MORE FUCKING TIME.

I would want the SC to rule in that manner because it would kick off the series of events that would lead to Constitutional amendments TO FUCKING CLARIFY a very subjective part of the Constitution. That amendment is vague and needs to be updated for better fit in these times. That's how the US Constitution works. We want to change it? We vote for amendments. Now, if you still have a fucking problem with anything I have stated or if you want to continue to rant and rave and claim I said this or mean that...then I can no longer assist you. NOWHERE in my statements have I EVER said "I want guns banned." I own guns, I have been shooting since I was a young lad and when you claim I said such things...that means you're a liar. The very thing you're trying to call me. Now, are we clear?

Grouch · 02-01-2008, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Explain to me how I am a liar and a coward? I have explained why I said what I said a dozen different times and you keep harping on the same stupid shit. What is not working in that brain of yours? Have you poked yourself in the head with springs any other time? There seems to be a blockage of some sort.

Now that’s some bad fellowship. Maybe you should run and report it to a mod.

Originally Posted by Donkey®

I would want the SC to rule in that manner because it would kick off the series of events that would lead to Constitutional amendments TO FUCKING CLARIFY a very subjective part of the Constitution.

Yes, you said you want the SC to side with the militia side (rather than personal). Which would allow guns for regulated militia use only and not personal. That’s called a gun ban.

Originally Posted by Donkey®

NOWHERE in my statements have I EVER said "I want guns banned." I own guns, I have been shooting since I was a young lad and when you claim I said such things...that means you're a liar. The very thing you're trying to call me. Now, are we clear?

Got pics? Really I don’t believe you. Appease me please. I doubt you know the difference between a 1911 and a 1919. That’s my hunch anyways.

Now because you did make the statement that you want the SC to side with the militia. THAT IS FACT YOU DID SAY THAT.

Originally Posted by Donkey®

I personally hope they come down on the side of the militia and the Constitution IS amended.

Why would you want them to side with the militia if you do not want guns banned form the hands of law abiding citizens for private use.

This is a simple question that only needs simple answer. This is also the question that you have remained too cowardly to answer.

You are a liar if you claim the statement you made ,that I quoted above does not imply a banning of firearms from the private citizenry.

Donkey® · 02-01-2008, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by Grouch

Now that’s some bad fellowship. Maybe you should run and report it to a mod.

Yes, you said you want the SC to side with the militia side (rather than personal). Which would allow guns for regulated militia use only and not personal. That’s called a gun ban.

Got pics? Really I don’t believe you. Appease me please. I doubt you know the difference between a 1911 and a 1919. That’s my hunch anyways.

Now because you did make the statement that you want the SC to side with the militia. THAT IS FACT YOU DID SAY THAT.

Why would you want them to side with the militia if you do not want guns banned form the hands of law abiding citizens for private use.

This is a simple question that only needs simple answer. This is also the question that you have remained too cowardly to answer.

You are a liar if you claim the statement you made ,that I quoted above does not imply a banning of firearms from the private citizenry.

I can't believe you're fucking up your own thread over this ignorance. Here's a simple question for you. Are you really that delusional to think that as soon as the Supreme Court makes that ruling the government will go house to house to remove each and every gun from a private citizen's little fingers? Seriously? I am no Perry Mason, but I believe that once the Supreme Court ruled, IMMEDIATE appeals would be filed and there would orders issued to stay ANY action being contemplated by the government to wrestle your guns away from you. In that time, amendments could be written up and voted on. We're talking YEARS dude. YEARS for ANY of this to come to fruition. So NO...it is NOT a gun ban. You sir are a liar and clearly putting meaning and words into my mouth.

If the Supreme Court doesn't side with Militia, then none of this can come true. We will continue on the same path we've been on since the Constitution was written. Change will only come when something makes it happen. That ruling would make it happen.

As far as me and my life...my guns...my history...would you accept a permaban if I provide a single bit of evidence I could walk into my bedroom and take a picture of a gun? You'd leave the site forever? Are you that confident in your "hunches?" Doubtful. Are you ready to drop this stupidity yet or do you want to continue to look stupid?

Again with the cowardly remarks? What's oowardly is the fact you completely ignore everything I have said and make up this entire bullshit conspiracy theory in order to start arguments on an internet forum.

Grouch · 02-01-2008, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

I can't believe you're fucking up your own thread over this ignorance.

I’m still waiting for an answer to my question. Its not here.

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Here's a simple question for you. Are you really that delusional to think that as soon as the Supreme Court makes that ruling the government will go house to house to remove each and every gun from a private citizen's little fingers?

I have to answer questions when you’re to cowardly to answer mine? That hardly seems fair but I will play along. Ok now never once did I say if the Supreme Court ruled with the militia (which to repeat is what you hope for) that anyone would come door to door looking for guns.

You’re above statement is un-intellectual and dishonest garbage and has nothing to do with the question posed to you. That you still haven’t answered.

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Seriously? I am no Perry Mason, but I believe that once the Supreme Court ruled, IMMEDIATE appeals would be filed and there would orders issued to stay ANY action being contemplated by the government to wrestle your guns away from you. In that time, amendments could be written up and voted on. We're talking YEARS dude. YEARS for ANY of this to come to fruition. So NO...it is NOT a gun ban. You sir are a liar and clearly putting meaning and words into my mouth.

If the Supreme Court ruled to the effect that you want it to, that guns are legal for militia purposes and not individual ownership, there would be no appeals. Namely, because the Supreme Court is the highest US Court and you can’t appeal their decision, or maybe you can tell me how those Roe v. Wade appeals are going? So apparently you are neither Perry Mason nor a High School civics teacher.

If the SC sides with the milita then there is nothing, no appeal process, but time stopping new gun bans from coming down from the government. And that doesn’t take years to come. Depending on what party is in charge it could come the same year.

There would be no need to amend the constitution. The Supreme Court had ruled.

Originally Posted by Donkey®

If the Supreme Court doesn't side with Militia, then none of this can come true. We will continue on the same path we've been on since the Constitution was written. Change will only come when something makes it happen. That ruling would make it happen.

True, not of THAT (gun banings) but this is not the path you wish to be chosen. What yo are confused about is what happens after the SC sides with the individual. No this anti-gun legislation and laws get put under new Constitutional scrutiny, then in time they will be repealed. That won’t happen over night, not that it shouldn’t or couldn’t happen over night.

But hey again you still haven’t answerd my question. There is a lot of double talk, back tracking and rhetoric but you have failed to even attempt to answer my question. You have ignored it fully.

Originally Posted by Donkey®

As far as me and my life...my guns...my history...would you accept a permaban if I provide a single bit of evidence I could walk into my bedroom and take a picture of a gun? You'd leave the site forever? Are you that confident in your "hunches?" Doubtful. Are you ready to drop this stupidity yet or do you want to continue to look stupid?

Since they would be lie and/or nothing but the first wiki citation and google image you could find. I’ll pass.

But would you accept a permaban for being to cowardly to answer my question. I’ll pose it here again so you don’t forget what I asked.

Why would you want them to side with the militia if you do not want guns banned form the hands of law abiding citizens for private use.

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Again with the cowardly remarks? What's oowardly is the fact you completely ignore everything I have said and make up this entire bullshit conspiracy theory in order to start arguments on an internet forum.

I have responded to every single thing you have said. Sorry buddy, you’re only ruining what little positive feeling anyone has for you on the board by being so dishonest here.

There is no bullshit conspiracy theory, there is just you, afraid to admit you want the Supreme Court to side with the militia.

In fact you can ignore everything above this.

If you didn’t want guns banned why would you say that? What do you want the 2nd amendment to say if not “every law abiding citizen can own guns for personal protection form all forms of threats both foreign and domestic.”

And if that is what you want it to say, why have you been so slow to say it.

Donkey® · 02-01-2008, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Grouch

Completely dense. I have answered. You choose not to accept anything I say. So be it. Make up whatever you want to make up. I am a liar and a coward. You are tool, troll and dipshit. We're even.